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Today's mail brought another batch of bull sale catalogs full of buxom beauties.
A simmental sale in Alberta with a yearling bull that weighed 1622lbs at 365 days :shock: his herdmate was a 1567lb bull out of a first calf heifer that weaned at 873lbs. All low input cattle i'm sure :wink:

Also a high selling outfit from Saskatchewan with Angus and Simmy bulls and a bunch of yearling simmy heifers. They must be good cattle because there was scarcely a negative EPD number in the catalog. :roll:
The heifers would average around the 1000lb mark at 365 days. Get this though among the heifers described as "moderate framed" were heifers weighing 1059lb, 1119lb and 1023lbs at 365 days - the latter one being off a first calf heifer.
Two questions:
What does moderate frame mean?
Any guesses what these will weigh mature?
 
About 1,900 lb cows. Remember, they will be moderate frame, elite females. There's another word I'm really tired of "ELITE". Yesterday at a sale, heifer's that were on a "high roughage diet, (read that as 50% grain) brought $1,000. apiece. The bottom end from a registered herd. No paper transfer on these girls, they were sold as commercial. I wonder how they will milk as fat as they were. The crowd couldn't get enough of 'em.
 
Grassfarmer said:
Today's mail brought another batch of bull sale catalogs full of buxom beauties.
A simmental sale in Alberta with a yearling bull that weighed 1622lbs at 365 days :shock: his herdmate was a 1567lb bull out of a first calf heifer that weaned at 873lbs. All low input cattle i'm sure :wink:

Also a high selling outfit from Saskatchewan with Angus and Simmy bulls and a bunch of yearling simmy heifers. They must be good cattle because there was scarcely a negative EPD number in the catalog. :roll:
The heifers would average around the 1000lb mark at 365 days. Get this though among the heifers described as "moderate framed" were heifers weighing 1059lb, 1119lb and 1023lbs at 365 days - the latter one being off a first calf heifer.
Two questions:
What does moderate frame mean?
Any guesses what these will weigh mature?
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depends on who you ask.
cows about 2000 lbs., the bulls around 4000 lbs. :? :shock: :wink:
 
It is truly inspirational to hear that a heifer can wean an 873 lbs calf. I guess I must be doing something wrong when our best heifer weaned off a 710 lbs bull calf. :???: And to also have a bull at 1622 lbs at 12 months is outstanding. I am sure he was fed to promote longevity in his breeding career. I still struggle to see how people buy into this? Oh and by the way, when the bull died in pasture his first year, it must have been lightning that killed him!
 
This year I started emailing the places that send out those over promoted
sales and ask them its ok to take my name off of your mailing list.
 
Faster horses said:
Amazes me that everyone wants big heifers, but small cows. :???: :?
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Sad but true, unfortunately a lot of cattle producers seem to have been conned by enthusiastic purebred marketers into thinking it's possible to have it all. Easy calving, huge growth rates, small mature weight, enough milk to wean an 800lb calf but still able to winter on next to nothing.
If it sounds too good to be true??
 
Faster horses said:
Amazes me that everyone wants big heifers, but small cows. :???: :?
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Not everyone. I like buying those 850 lb "tail-enders" off of a string of big, high selling heifers for a couple hundred less than their sisters just sold for. :wink:
 
I just looked through the catalog of possibly the priciest sale in Sask this spring. Out of 50 black bulls only 12 of the dams carried the farm prefix and only 3 were second generation of the farm. :?
 
Big Muddy rancher said:
I just looked through the catalog of possibly the priciest sale in Sask this spring. Out of 50 black bulls only 12 of the dams carried the farm prefix and only 3 were second generation of the farm. :?
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:shock: Well I hope the "opposite" doesn't happen for us ... :-)
 
S.S.A.P. said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
I just looked through the catalog of possibly the priciest sale in Sask this spring. Out of 50 black bulls only 12 of the dams carried the farm prefix and only 3 were second generation of the farm. :?
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:shock: Well I hope the "opposite" doesn't happen for us ... :-)
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Well I hope everybody is satisfied with how their bulls sell.
The point I was making is that this outfit has bought most of their cows. Granted they didn't skimp I'm sure but I like to see most cows in the herd raised by the ranch. It shows me they have a herd they have built. It should give a little more consistency to the bulls. :?
 

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