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Topps E-Coli Source Found? In Canada?

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Canadian firm likely supplied tainted beef



WASHINGTON (AP) -- A now-defunct Canadian beef firm was the likely source of
bacteria-contaminated meat used to make frozen hamburgers that later sickened 40 people in eight states, the Agriculture Department said Friday.

A joint U.S.-Canadian investigation matched the DNA fingerprint of E. coli O157:H7
bacteria isolated from beef trim that had remained in storage with Rancher's Beef Ltd. to samples taken both from victims of the food poisoning outbreak and packages, both intact and opened, of New Jersey-based Topps Meat Co. frozen hamburgers. Rancher's Beef of Balzac, Alberta, had supplied Topps with beef trim used to make the patties, the USDA said.

A message left with Rancher's Beef, which has ceased operations, was not immediately returned.

http://www.c-n.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071026/FRONT01/71026053
 
Why am I not surprised that it finally came down to a defunct Canadian business :roll:

Anyway,I cannot get into goggle ecoli,some of you experts on here,explain it to me....I'm under the impression all animals have ecoli in them and that processing and cooking can make or break the outbreak....true or false? Was the meat tained before or after it was processed?

Oh and WHY if your country KNOWS that meat,no matter WHERE it came from was STILL selling it to costomers in your country up until just a couple days ago.
 
E-coli comes from the guts of cattle. Therefore, it's easy to determine where the initial contamination came from - the place where the meat and the guts were under the same roof.
 
And the answer to why your country is still selling the tainted meat?????


I wonder why theres no outbreak of ecoli in Canada from that supposedly same place? Wierd huh?
 
Mrs.Greg said:
And the answer to why your country is still selling the tainted meat?????


I wonder why theres no outbreak of ecoli in Canada from that supposedly same place? Wierd huh?

It wasn't "our country" that was selling the meat. It was a certain retailer. Why? Who knows, maybe they didn't read the boxes correctly, missed them, ....

Maybe your country doesn't allow the foxes to watch the henhouse and contaminated meat was dealt with before it got to the consumer. Maybe the entire contaminated batch was send down here and thus, there wasn't any of it to find up there.
 
Sandhusker said:
Mrs.Greg said:
And the answer to why your country is still selling the tainted meat?????


I wonder why theres no outbreak of ecoli in Canada from that supposedly same place? Wierd huh?

It wasn't "our country" that was selling the meat. It was a certain retailer. Why? Who knows, maybe they didn't read the boxes correctly, missed them, ....

Maybe your country doesn't allow the foxes to watch the henhouse and contaminated meat was dealt with before it got to the consumer. Maybe the entire contaminated batch was send down here and thus, there wasn't any of it to find up there.
Give me a break,every second day on here theres something about contaminated food in YOUR country.....maybe you guys need to cleaning up your own backyards instead of trying to stab every other country possible in the backs...its getting totally ridiculous.BTW,it wasn't our henhouse that was that continued selling to customers.They didn't MISS them,give me a break,every retailer is sent a priority notice,to be acted on immediatly :roll:
 
Mrs.Greg said:
Sandhusker said:
Mrs.Greg said:
And the answer to why your country is still selling the tainted meat?????


I wonder why theres no outbreak of ecoli in Canada from that supposedly same place? Wierd huh?

It wasn't "our country" that was selling the meat. It was a certain retailer. Why? Who knows, maybe they didn't read the boxes correctly, missed them, ....

Maybe your country doesn't allow the foxes to watch the henhouse and contaminated meat was dealt with before it got to the consumer. Maybe the entire contaminated batch was send down here and thus, there wasn't any of it to find up there.
Give me a break,every second day on here theres something about contaminated food in YOUR country.....maybe you guys need to cleaning up your own backyards instead of trying to stab every other country possible in the backs...its getting totally ridiculous.BTW,it wasn't our henhouse that was that continued selling to customers.They didn't MISS them,give me a break,every retailer is sent a priority notice,to be acted on immediatly :roll:

That's what I was talking about with my foxes watching the henhouse comment. That wasn't a brag on our system.
 
Canadian agencies look for E. coli links
Updated Fri. Oct. 26 2007 11:12 PM ET

CTV.ca News Staff

Canada's Public Health Agency and the Canadian Food Inspection Agency are looking into the possibility that there may be links between E. coli outbreaks throughout the country earlier this summer.

According to a press release issued by the CFIA, the investigation is looking at 45 cases that were reported between July and September in New Brunswick, Quebec, Saskatchewan, and British Columbia. Eleven people were hospitalized and one elderly person died.

The CFIA reports that the cases share a similar and unique pattern of E. coli, and the cause of the illnesses are mostly linked to ground beef.


The U.S. government says the Canadian beef was likely used to make frozen hamburgers that later sickened 40 people in eight states.

While the Canadian news release did not name the firm, the U.S. release said Rancher's Beef of Balzac, Alberta had supplied Topps of New Jersey with beef trim used to make the patties.


Health officials here in Canada are now working with their counterparts in the U.S.

The unique E. coli pattern was found through genetic testing of samples of beef from the meat facility in Alberta.

According to the press release, "This facility is currently not operating. The company has contacted its primary distributors to return any affected product. All remaining product is under detention."

The CFIA is still investigating too find out if there is a link between the facility and the cases under investigation. It's also trying to determine if any contaminated beef is still on the market and a recall needs to be issued.

The CFIA is asking Canadians to minimize their risks for E. coli when preparing meat. It recommends that food be thoroughly cooked and handled.

E. coli (or Escherichia coli) bacteria are found naturally in cattle, poultry, and other animals. If people become infected with the bacteria, it can cause serious illness. Symptoms may include severe abdominal cramping and bloody diarrhea. But some people may show no signs that they carry the bacteria, but they may still spread it to others.
 
Investigation into E. coli cases in Canada
OTTAWA, October 26, 2007 – The Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CFIA) and the Public Health Agency of Canada (PHAC) are currently investigating possible linkages between E. coli cases that occurred earlier this summer in Canada.

The investigation is examining 45 cases of E. coli O157:H7 that were found in New Brunswick, Quebec, Saskatchewan, Ontario and British Columbia. These cases were previously reported from July to September, 2007. As a result of these cases, eleven people were hospitalized and one elderly individual died.

Ongoing testing has determined that most of the cases share a unique pattern of E. coli and the cause of the illnesses has been mostly associated with ground beef. This new E. coli pattern has also been found in the United States, and we are working closely with our counterparts at the United States Department of Agriculture to share information. We greatly appreciate the USDA's input and cooperation in this investigation.

The same unique E. coli pattern that was found in the majority of cases this summer has been found through genetic testing of samples of beef taken from a meat facility in Alberta. This facility is currently not operating. The company has contacted its primary distributors to return any affected product. All remaining product is under detention. CFIA is actively investigating this and other potential sources to determine if there is a link between this facility and the cases under investigation.

At this time, CFIA is working to ensure that there is no contaminated beef from the facility in Alberta available to consumers. If the investigation reveals that product is still on the market, a public recall will be issued.

Federal officials are also working with their counterparts in other jurisdictions and are taking all the necessary steps to protect the public. The Government remains vigilant and committed to maintaining and improving Canada's food safety system by ensuring national and international industry standards are upheld.

Canadians are reminded that a number of simple steps should be taken when cooking with ground beef to reduce the likelihood of E. coli. Specifically, thoroughly cooking the meat and using safe handling practices can reduce the risk of illness. For more information, please refer to the following fact sheet: http://www.inspection.gc.ca/english/fssa/concen/cause/ecolie.shtml.

For more information, consumers can call CFIA at 1-800-442-2342 / TTY 1-800-465-7735 (8:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. Eastern time, Monday to Friday). To receive information on food recalls or allergy alert notices by e-mail, or for other food safety facts, visit the CFIA web site at www.inspection.gc.ca/recalls.

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CFIA Media Relations
613-228-6682
 
I don't mean to pee in the pickles here being an Alberta boy, but isn't Ranchers Beef now "owned" by the Alberta government since Alberta Treasury Branches was left holding the paper on it after it went down?
I wonder who will get sued?
And Ranchers Beef was supposed to be the cattle industry's answer to the closed border.
Screw Tyson and Cargill, we'll show those damned Yankees how to sell beef.
My legislature spies tell me that Ranchers Beef was in Steady Eddie's office (who also had a nice beef herd before he got the preem's job) looking for free money days before ATB pulled the pin.
What a mess.
Hay Maker will love this one.
 
Now--According to Questionable and what he proclaims of Canada's magic ID system-- they should be able to trace this E-coli back to the exact gut of the exact animal and the Canuck feedlot and ranch that it came from...EH :???: :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
Neil Waugh said:
I don't mean to pee in the pickles here being an Alberta boy, but isn't Ranchers Beef now "owned" by the Alberta government since Alberta Treasury Branches was left holding the paper on it after it went down?
I wonder who will get sued?
And Ranchers Beef was supposed to be the cattle industry's answer to the closed border.
Screw Tyson and Cargill, we'll show those damned Yankees how to sell beef.
My legislature spies tell me that Ranchers Beef was in Steady Eddie's office (who also had a nice beef herd before he got the preem's job) looking for free money days before ATB pulled the pin.
What a mess.
Hay Maker will love this one.
Neil,don't sell yourself short. Peeing in the pickles of the Alberta cattleman seems to be something you enjoy not hate.It shows in the Tabloid articles you write for the Sun
Its also pretty obvious which team your legislature spys DON'T play nice with :roll:
 
Neil Waugh said:
I don't mean to pee in the pickles here being an Alberta boy, but isn't Ranchers Beef now "owned" by the Alberta government since Alberta Treasury Branches was left holding the paper on it after it went down?
I wonder who will get sued?
And Ranchers Beef was supposed to be the cattle industry's answer to the closed border.
Screw Tyson and Cargill, we'll show those damned Yankees how to sell beef.
My legislature spies tell me that Ranchers Beef was in Steady Eddie's office (who also had a nice beef herd before he got the preem's job) looking for free money days before ATB pulled the pin.
What a mess.
Hay Maker will love this one.

Neil, was that plant one that killed the cattle or did they get trim from other packers? The ecoli could have come from a worker who didn't wash their hand but more likely it came from the back end of cattle.

How long ago was it shut down? Was it before or after the problem was known (not just this Topps problem, but the ecoli problem--which could have predated the shipments to others).

Who was the management/owners made up of?


Mrs. Gregg, I don't see this as a Canadian producer problem. I see it as a case where the cattle were not slaughtered with care, not processed correctly, or even that the meat might have come from....a U.S. company like----TYSON?

These are the questions that need to be answered.

Mrs. Greg--please don't make this a U.S. vs. Canada argument. This is a serious lapse in food safety and it doesn't matter where the meat came from. U.S. posters here already say the USDA inspection service is unduly influenced by the industry they regulate and I am sure it happens on both sides of the border.

It would still be nice to get to the bottom of it, no pun intended.
 
Tex...your fairly new here,you'll learn,if it can be passed off as a Canadian problam,it will be.

I'm under the impression that Ranchers Beef closed in late August.
 
Neil Waugh said:
I don't mean to pee in the pickles here being an Alberta boy, but isn't Ranchers Beef now "owned" by the Alberta government since Alberta Treasury Branches was left holding the paper on it after it went down?
I wonder who will get sued?
.

Yep the top E-Coli lawsuit ambulance chaser firm has already been hired--Maybe some of those Alberta oil dollars will be coming back to the states-EH :???: :wink: :lol:

Now I wonder if the Cargill recall will fit into all this-- were they sourcing from Ranchers Beef too?-- or were both getting the same trim from somewhere else? Or are they completely separate?
 
Mrs.Greg said:
Tex...your fairly new here,you'll learn,if it can be passed off as a Canadian problam,it will be.

I'm under the impression that Ranchers Beef closed in late August.

If the contaminated trim came from Canada, then Canada is part of the problem. The other parts are the grinder who sent contaminated beef to the public and the USDA who allowed it in the country and then put a "USDA Inspected" stamp on crap that wasn't inspected.
 
Yup Oldtimer, you're right. Check this dude out.

Marler Clark E. coli attorneys file lawsuit against Topps
SEATTLE, WA (October 1, 2007) – A lawsuit was filed today against Topps Meat Company, the meat producer whose ground beef products have been identified as the source of an E. coli O157:H7 outbreak, and who expanded a ground beef recall to include 21.7 million pounds of meat over the weekend. The lawsuit was filed on behalf of Albany County, New York, residents Robert and Catherine McDonald and their young daughter, who became ill with an E. coli O157:H7 infection and was hospitalized after eating a hamburger made of Topps Meats ground beef on August 17th. The McDonald family is represented by the Seattle law firm, Marler Clark, and the upstate New York law firm Underberg & Kessler.

According to the lawsuit, the McDonalds' daughter fell ill with symptoms of an E. coli infection, including nausea, diarrhea, stomach cramps, fever, chills, and muscle aches on August 20. On August 22, she was admitted to the hospital, where she provided a stool specimen that later returned positive for E. coli O157:H7. She was released from the hospital on August 24, and continues her recovery at home.

"We saw massive recalls and countless illnesses and deaths due to E. coli-contaminated ground beef in the 1990s," said William Marler, attorney for the McDonald family. "Between 1993 and 2002, my clients were awarded $250 million in verdicts and settlements from the meat and restaurant industries. But in 2002, meat producers cleaned up their act. I touted the meat industry as a model for what an industry could do that was right to protect consumers."

"Aside from sporadic cases, outbreaks traced back to meat products have been largely absent in the last five years," Marler continued, noting that together with Underberg & Kessler Marler Clark represented another young Albany County child in a lawsuit against Topps two years ago. "2007 has been an anomaly in the meat industry, but now that outbreaks are happening, the industry needs to once again step up to the plate and compensate consumers for their injuries."

BACKGROUND:
Marler Clark and Underberg & Kessler have together represented hundreds of New York citizens who have become ill with food- or water-borne illnesses. The firms represented seventy victims of the Brook-Lea Country Club Salmonella outbreak in Rochester in 2002. They have also teamed up to represent a six-year-old girl from White Plains, New York, who developed HUS and nearly died after eating an E. coli-contaminated hamburger made with meat purchased from BJ's Wholesale Club and the family of a man who died of an acute hepatitis A infection after eating at the Maple Lawn Dairy in Elmira, New York. The firms currently represent thousands of victims of the Cryptosporidium outbreak traced to contaminated water at the Seneca Lake State Park in central New York in 2005 and several victims of last year's spinach E. coli outbreak.


He probably can't operate north of the Medicine Line. But since Topps is broke you can bet he's trying to connect the dots back to the money right now.

Mrs. Greg, I know you're still ticked at me from the billion-buck BSE days.
But I still think the bail out should have been targetted at the cow/calf guys and not handed to Cargill, Tysons and the fat cats on Feedlot Alley (some who were also investors in Ranchers Beef) to hopefully trickle down to the Cowboy Trail. Instead of gushering up to the big boys.
But that's all rear view mirror stuff now.
 
Mrs.Greg said:
Tex...your fairly new here,you'll learn,if it can be passed off as a Canadian problam,it will be.

I'm under the impression that Ranchers Beef closed in late August.

What I see, Mrs. Greg, is Canada inspection and food safety issues/packer interests being confused with Canadian producer interests and the same in the USA.

These things need to be separated to be understood.

I don't think this Topps recall traceback to Canada is the Canadian producer's fault, it is the food safety and packer's fault.

I hope that everyone can separate themselves from the packer interests---even when they seem to coincide.
 
Tex said:
Mrs.Greg said:
Tex...your fairly new here,you'll learn,if it can be passed off as a Canadian problam,it will be.

I'm under the impression that Ranchers Beef closed in late August.

What I see, Mrs. Greg, is Canada inspection and food safety issues/packer interests being confused with Canadian producer interests and the same in the USA.

These things need to be separated to be understood.

I don't think this Topps recall traceback to Canada is the Canadian producer's fault, it is the food safety and packer's fault.

I hope that everyone can separate themselves from the packer interests---even when they seem to coincide.

That's the problem Tex,most of the canucklehead ranchers have no intentions of seperating from the packer coat tail,and its my belief they have done great harm to the United States cattle industry,ask a few of them what they plan on doing about packer laws,complying with their trumped up feed ban, or complying with packing house health issues,the latest issue of ecoli proves what some of us have been saying all along...........until canada can comply and provide disease free beef products,it needs to stay north of the medicine line.
I dont know whether Topps was a good company or bad,but what I do know with certainty is canada has once again diminished the demand for beef and put a reputable company out of business.
Then along comes some female parasite claiming some of us are unjustly blaming canada...............gimme a goddamn break.
good luck
 
According to Times interviews with former Topps employees, after Strategic Investments acquired the company, it brought in outside managers, invested $2.5 million in new machines and began boosting production levels.

"The whole time, the whole year, there was a lot more pressure," Alberto Narvaelzi, a former Topps supervisor who worked for the company for 23 years, told the Times.

The plant also increased the amount of meat it purchased from overseas sources, a practice that has become more common in the processing industry. Some types of meat from foreign countries where E. coli has not been prevalent do not face mandatory testing for contamination.

As The Buffalo News previously reported, Buffalo businessman and civic leader Robert Gioia, a Strategic Investments principal, served at chairman of Topps from the time of its acquisition until late 2006 when he became president of the John R. Oishei Foundation.

Strategic Investments President Gary Brost declined to comment Tuesday on the allegations in the Times story.

Topps, which was the leading U.S. producer of frozen hamburgers for wholesale and retail sale, has been hit with a handful of lawsuits over the contaminated meats, but to date no suits have been filed against Strategic Investments.


FOR WHO?, Yup WALMART may had a hand in Strategic Investments The whole time, the whole year, there was a lot more pressure," to make cheap hamburger. Still the unanswered question is where did these new strains of H7 come from????????????
 

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