Tubground pile.

[3words]

I need some suggestions on how to get the ground unthawed,so i can get 10 posts pounded in?What i did the first time was i pounded in 10 posts before the ground froze,becasue my plan was to only do it once this winter.Anyways i put 4 posts at the ends to make a straight 32' fence and i did the same thing at the other end 150' away,at the 75' mark i put a post on each side and ran a cable from one post to the other post and made that cable 34"s high.Then i ran 1 cable 34"s high from one end to the other end,and it sits on top of the cross cable in the middle so the cable stays a constant 34"s high and there is another cable running a foot above that.Then i got the custom tubgrinder to make a 32' wide pile probably 20' high and it's 150' long,took 200 bales to make it.Then i got 2 cables running on the other side exactly like the first side.On the one end i got a cable running on top of the 2" by 8"s 32' long and that cable is hooked to the fencer,so all the cables are on a electric fencer,and as the cows eat from both sides they work there way to the centre,and i just move the cables towards the centre everyday.Good way to mix in the poor hay with the good hay and get very little waste,and very simple way and quick way of getting the cows fed.The only reason i explained what i was up to,because i'm not looking for any reply's wait until spring when the ground thaws.Thanks for any info.
Gcreekrch your ground probably never unthaws up there,how do you do it?

 

[Big Muddy rancher]

Scrape down to bare ground and build a fire . Even a coffee can with both ends cut out and some charcoal would give you a good start.

 

[jigs]

we took old tires, poured quick crete in them, and a post in the quick crete..... made portable posts, when hooked to a hot wire the cattle never pushed on them

 

[3words]

Can charcoal be bought in the winter,or does it get put away with all the rest of the stuff from summer?

 

[3words]

Thats a good idea Jigs,i never even thought about that.Did you just use car tires?I got a fair amount of pull inward on the cables when i'm going from one end to the other end to keep the slack out of the cable.

 

[Hayguy]

do like they do in the new subdivisions that need gas lines etc. put down some straw, cover with coal, add a little diesel,light tiger torch and touch 'er off. when the coal gets burning good, cover with sheets of steel. old 45 gallon drums with ends cut out them cut in half and slightly flattend work well, to force heat down

 

[burnt]

Further with jigs' idea, we took a couple of rectangular wooden crates - 2'x3' x2' high - and filled them with leftover concrete when we were pouring stuff around here over the last few years. We stuck a vertical, 3" steel post in a few inches from the one end. Weld some bent bar or rebar to the post to hold better in the concrete.

You can fasten stuff to the post - drill holes, weld on, whatever you want. They are heavy enough to hang a 16' gate from so they might also support your cables.

Nice thing about them is that they are portable. I call them portable gate blocks. We use them for making paddocks with hi-tensile wire. Sink them into the ground a couple of inches and they keep the wire tight for a long time.

 

[Denny]

A wood fire over each spot get some good coals going and cover with a metal lick tub or trash can lid etc. Next morning your good to go.

 

[gcreekrch]

I built a set of corrals one winter when I was a lot younger and more impatient to get something done. As has been suggested, I used a wood fire and planted 4 posts per afternoon.

Started the fires, had coffee, moved fire aside, dug up the thawed upper inches and put the fire back in the hole. Repeat as needed. I had frost down about a foot at that location.

Have a vibrator on the excavator now with a probe. It will go through 6 inches no problem, haven't tried a foot yet.

 

[Big Muddy rancher]

I built a set of corrals one winter when I was a lot younger and more impatient to get something done. As has been suggested, I used a wood fire and planted 4 posts per afternoon.

Started the fires, had coffee, moved fire aside, dug up the thawed upper inches and put the fire back in the hole. Repeat as needed. I had frost down about a foot at that location.

Have a vibrator on the excavator now with a probe. It will go through 6 inches no problem, haven't tried a foot yet.

Just so jigs doesn't get to say it. :wink: You sure your not bragging about 6 inches. :lol: :lol:

 

[gcreekrch]

I built a set of corrals one winter when I was a lot younger and more impatient to get something done. As has been suggested, I used a wood fire and planted 4 posts per afternoon.

Started the fires, had coffee, moved fire aside, dug up the thawed upper inches and put the fire back in the hole. Repeat as needed. I had frost down about a foot at that location.

Have a vibrator on the excavator now with a probe. It will go through 6 inches no problem, haven't tried a foot yet.

Just so jigs doesn't get to say it. :wink: You sure your not bragging about 6 inches. :lol: :lol:

You should know by now that I never brag about anything. :wink:

 

[jigs]

I built a set of corrals one winter when I was a lot younger and more impatient to get something done. As has been suggested, I used a wood fire and planted 4 posts per afternoon.

Started the fires, had coffee, moved fire aside, dug up the thawed upper inches and put the fire back in the hole. Repeat as needed. I had frost down about a foot at that location.

Have a vibrator on the excavator now with a probe. It will go through 6 inches no problem, haven't tried a foot yet.

Just so jigs doesn't get to say it. :wink: You sure your not bragging about 6 inches. :lol: :lol:

mine is only six inches...but most women don't like it that big around! :wink:

 

[3words]

I built a set of corrals one winter when I was a lot younger and more impatient to get something done. As has been suggested, I used a wood fire and planted 4 posts per afternoon.

Started the fires, had coffee, moved fire aside, dug up the thawed upper inches and put the fire back in the hole. Repeat as needed. I had frost down about a foot at that location.

Have a vibrator on the excavator now with a probe. It will go through 6 inches no problem, haven't tried a foot yet.

Just so jigs doesn't get to say it. :wink: You sure your not bragging about 6 inches. :lol: :lol:

mine is only six inches...but most women don't like it that big around! :wink:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Silver]

Steel posts drive alright if you heat the end up good with a tiger torch, and keep the torch on the post at ground level as you drive it. Wood posts likely won't work in the same fashion