well thats the whole reason i vaccinate - so the next guy down the line doesn't have a mess.  the reason i was so po'd about it was that i knew i was going to buy them over again to do it right.  anyhow - the guys i bought them from said they'd replace them since they didn't put any ice packs with them.  i told the guy that you already had a lifetime customer with or without replacing them as i should have taken a cooler and never let it happen.  anyhow - he sold two alley sections and a digital scale for his efforts and proved to me why i'll always give them my business.

no on to the next drama... deal with oil in the coolant on my f350.  someone i don't think ford will be as generous after 321,000 miles.