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Wannabe Leagues?

Mike

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Isn't it fitting? The SEC was the first major conference to do the Media Days thing last week, and Mike Slive and his crew had the stage to themselves.

The wannabes get to share the spotlight this week.

The ACC, also known as SEC Lite, got together Sunday and Monday in Greensboro, N.C., because nothing screams football like a regular stop for the NCAA Basketball Tournament.

The Big 12, feeling its oats after partnering up with the SEC for the Champions Bowl, at least has the decency to put its preseason football shindig in a football city. Baghdad Bob Stoops and friends are spreading a little propaganda around Dallas on Monday and Tuesday.

The Big Ten takes over Wednesday and Thursday in Chicago. Ohio State's Urban Meyer, picking up where he left off at Florida, will have to address the legal entanglements of four different Buckeyes.

The Pac-12 brings up the rear on Friday, and no, that's not a Lane Kiffin reference, but a question has to be asked. If you gather your coaches and players at the Sony Studios Lot in Culver City, Calif., don't you people take your football seriously out there?

This would be a good time to note that it's been three years since one of the Other Four conferences among the Group of Five supplied some tackling dummies for the SEC in the BCS Championship Game.

That's right. Of the last four teams to play for the national title, three came from the SEC and the other was Notre Dame, which is still independent in football despite Steve Spurrier's best efforts.

You have to go back past Alabama vs. Notre Dame and Alabama vs. LSU to find Oregon giving Auburn its best shot and coming up short. If you're scoring at home, that gives the SEC four of the last six BCS Championship Game participants.

Someone asked Bob Bowlsby, the Big 12 commissioner, the importance of playing and beating SEC teams to become the best conference in the country.

"I don't think you can be the best without playing the best," Bowlsby said. "We have the arrangement in the Sugar Bowl that will in most years have a Big 12 team playing an SEC team. We will also likely play the SEC in at least one other and probably two other bowl games.

"So we believe in the best playing the best, and I don't think you can lay claim to it unless you can beat them."

Smart man.

John Swofford, the big fish in the ACC, patted his league on the back for playing "the toughest non-conference schedule" in the country this season. For example, he said, the ACC "will play nine non‑conference games against six teams selected by ESPN.com in its early preseason top ten."

Seven of those game are against SEC powers: Virginia Tech against No. 1 Alabama; Clemson and Georgia Tech against No. 6 Georgia; Miami and Florida State against No. 7 Florida; and North Carolina and Clemson against No. 10 South Carolina.

It's not a stretch to suggest the ACC could go 0-7 in those matchups.

So if the ACC's not ready to challenge the SEC, who is? Which league has a team or two that not only could earn a spot in the BCS Championship Game but also won't roll over when it finds an SEC team waiting there?

The Pac-12 fits that suit. Stanford and Oregon have become the class of that conference. Whoever survives their battle for league supremacy could be a worthy opponent for, um, I don't know, say, Alabama in the national title game.

The Cardinal or the Ducks would have home-region advantage in the Rose Bowl. Of course, either team would need all the help it could get, and it probably still wouldn't be enough.

As the Big 12's Bowlsby said, "We think we can play with anybody in the country, but it's impossible to call yourself the best league in college football unless you can win the national championship."

If Bowlsby, Swofford, the Big Ten's Jim Delany or the Pac-12's Larry Scott want to call themselves the best league in the country, it's easy. Pick up the phone and start dialing. The area code's 205.
 
everything goes in cycles...give it time, the SEC will lose the dominance that it is used to...
 
What does the article mean when it says pick up the phone area code 205? Does it mean to just call these big bad schools and schedual home and homes? Most of the big bad schools will turn down the offer, they usually only take on one tough non conference game a year. I remember a while back when usc was thinking they were going to be getting good. It was a year or two before they were really good. They had a home and home with KSU and lost both. I don't think Miami will be calling KSU any time soon either. I'm not trying to be a big KSU fan, but realisticly playing a game in Manhattan KS is a no win situation for some of these big schools. If you win, well your supposed to, but if you happen to have a bad game, and the fans get involved and KSU players have a career night, well there goes your chance for a national title. Getting embarrassed by a team coached by senior citizen with a bunch of juco transfers, in the middle of a small (compaired to other college schools) town in Kansas.
 
3 M L & C said:
well there goes your chance for a national title. Getting embarrassed by a team coached by senior citizen with a bunch of juco transfers, in the middle of a small (compaired to other college schools) town in Kansas.

LMAO!! :clap: :clap: :clap:
 
most schools will tell you that a game in Manhappiness is one of the toughest around.... the stadium is one of the loudest there is.... that old fart and the left over juco kids seem to kick ash and take names even when everyone else thinks we have no chance......
 
jigs said:
most schools will tell you that a game in Manhappiness is one of the toughest around.... the stadium is one of the loudest there is.... that old fart and the left over juco kids seem to kick ash and take names even when everyone else thinks we have no chance......

I agree totally jigs. Alabama would be a HUGE favorite if they played in Manhattan, but I bet that game scares the hell out of all the higher ups in control of their schedule and how much money they can make for a year. It is a no win situation for any top tier team in the sec. Not just KSU but about any team in the big 12 could catch fire for one night. I mean they just line up another cupcake and pound them by 40 and everyone proclaimes their great.
 
take KU out of the equation, and any Big 12 team could win a conference game ANY night of the week.....

SEC, that is not true....1/3 of the teams at the top are phenomenal, the middle 1/3 are good teams, the bottom 1/3 are a joke. and the top 1/3 schedules to play the bottom 1/3 at the end of the year, when they need the easy big wins to pad the polls....

even in the Pac 12, the big teams play each other late. the SEC uses the weak teams to build a false presence.

everyone laughs at Baylor beating KSU last year...Baylor is a GOOD TEAM. and had a D-coordinator who spend several years at KSU, so he KNEW what to do to stop KSU.... not an excuse, we lost, and lost big, BUT it proves my point that IF the SEC did not pack the league with cupcakes, it would be interesting...

we will see in a couple years, Auburn is set to travel to KSU....
 
SEC, that is not true....1/3 of the teams at the top are phenomenal, the middle 1/3 are good teams, the bottom 1/3 are a joke. and the top 1/3 schedules to play the bottom 1/3 at the end of the year, when they need the easy big wins to pad the polls....

even in the Pac 12, the big teams play each other late. the SEC uses the weak teams to build a false presence

TOTAL BS!!!!!
 
Bama, LSU, Fla. , Georgia....... all top tier teams, would pound about anyone....


aTm, Auburn, Arkansas, Vanderbuilt ( very promising future) , South Carolina.... could line up with anyone, and have a good shot at a win, but not up to the top level of the Conference...

Tenn, Mizzou, UK, Ole Miss, Miss State..... seriously??? MAC teams would beat them , they are bottom dwellers and will be little else....
 
jigs said:
Bama, LSU, Fla. , Georgia....... all top tier teams, would pound about anyone....


aTm, Auburn, Arkansas, Vanderbuilt ( very promising future) , South Carolina.... could line up with anyone, and have a good shot at a win, but not up to the top level of the Conference...

Tenn, Mizzou, UK, Ole Miss, Miss State..... seriously??? MAC teams would beat them , they are bottom dwellers and will be little else....

All teams have a few down years from time to time. Take Tennessee for instance:
Having played their first season in 1891, the Vols have amassed a successful tradition for well over a century, with their combined record of 799-356-52 ranking them tenth on the list of all-time won-lost records and eighth on the by victories list for college football programs [3] as well as second on the all-time won lost list whilst of SEC programs. This makes them one of the most successful football programs in NCAA history of all time. Their all-time ranking in bowl appearances is third (49) and sixth in all-time bowl victories. They boast six national titles in their history and their last national championship was in the 1998 college football season.

Or Ole Miss:

Can't say too much for Mizzou, and I will agree Kentucky is no powerhouse, but Tenn, Ole Miss, & Miss State can line up with anyone on a given year.

Top to bottom, SEC is solid. Everyone can't be winners in a Conference. :roll:

P.S. Ole Miss beat Vandy just last night. I hope you enjoyed the two SEC games on opening night of the season! :lol: :lol: And that's just what makes SEC different. Anyone could win against any other conference team at any time.

Just sayin'.

The football history of Ole Miss includes the formation of the first football team in the state and the 26th team on the list of college football's all-time winning programs.[4] The Ole Miss Rebels posted their 600th win on September 27, 2008 when they defeated the (then ranked No. 4 and future 2008 BCS National Champ) Florida Gators 31–30 at Ben Hill Griffin Stadium in Gainesville, Florida
 
"Wannabes"? What? Our last two national titles came after totally dismantling SEC champs.

Got in a fantasy football league. I ended up with Cam Newton. Not real thrilled with that, but QBs were going fast.
 
Sandhusker said:
"Wannabes"? What? Our last two national titles came after totally dismantling SEC champs.

Got in a fantasy football league. I ended up with Cam Newton. Not real thrilled with that, but QBs were going fast.

It's a new era from what it was 20 years ago. Remember, 7 out of the last 7. :lol: and Georgia just a few months ago.
 

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