sagebrushes beau was a real good dog from what i heard kj sold him because he was getting old and he has said he wished he'd kept him as he had alot of good pups out of him

as for the bench tie does not ring a bell with me but it's a good bet she was a hipshot on top and most likly windrushes fury on the bottom

that was an awsome cross that most all of the good kelpies that are bred here in states go back too many times

most all of my dogs go back to that cross sevaral times

until later

jerry