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PETA plans protest following Vick indictment

By Jason Cole, Yahoo! Sports
July 19, 2007





The NFL may soon get its first face-to-face backlash following the federal indictment of Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick on multiple dogfighting charges.

The animal rights group People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals has scheduled a protest in front of the league offices in New York on Friday morning.

"This is to show our frustration over the NFL's failure to take a strong stance against Michael Vick," PETA spokesman Dan Shannon said.

The call for protest comes as the NFL has yet to punish Vick, who was charged by federal authorities on Tuesday with competitive dogfighting, procuring and training pit bulls for fighting, and conducting the enterprise across state lines.



"Aside from Michael Vick and the celebrity status, the details of this case are some of the most shocking we've ever seen," Shannon said. "The cruelty and the size of this dog-fighting organization are staggering."

Falcons owner Arthur Blank addressed the public outcry in a statement Thursday.

"This is an emotionally charged and complicated matter," he said. "There are a wide range of interests and legal issues that need to be carefully considered as we move ahead, including our need to respect the due process that Michael is entitled to. Also, this situation affects everyone – our club, our players and associates, our sponsors, our fans and the Atlanta community among them – so we must consider all of our customers in making any decisions.

"Given the differing perspectives and strong feelings around this issue, we probably won't make everyone happy, but we are committed to doing the right thing. As the owner of this club that's, ultimately, my responsibility."

The league has received numerous calls and emails requesting that Vick be barred from playing for the foreseeable future, according to two league sources. Wayne Pacelle, president of the Humane Society of the United States, said that more than 100,000 emails had been sent through his organization's web site alone to NFL commissioner Roger Goodell.

Members of both organizations have discussed boycotting not only the Falcons and the NFL, but also companies that do business with Vick, the league and the team. Nike, which uses Vick as a pitchman, and Home Depot, where Blank was once a co-chairman, were among the targets of possible boycotts.

Pacelle said the Humane Society had yet to decide how it would protest, but he was quite clear about the goal for the organization, which has approximately 10 million members.

"If the NFL punts its responsibility and allows Vick to play, there will be significant public pressure brought to bear," Pacelle said. "And this is not some top-down decry. It's something the people in the organization will demand we do. The public is clamoring for action.

"We're still in the wake of dealing with the media and public reaction to the news of the indictment on Tuesday. Now, we started to pivot to start applying pressure if the NFL and the Falcons dig in and think it's OK for him to be on the field."

Despite indications that Goodell is not going to suspend Vick, the clear direction is toward Vick not playing or being part of training camp, a league source said. The Falcons are scheduled to open training camp at the team's headquarters in Flowery Branch, Ga., next Thursday, the same day that Vick is to be arraigned in Richmond, Va.

"I think the newspapers and other media are jumping the gun when they say Vick is going to be able to play this season," another league source said. "That's not the way I see it playing out right now. It may not be the suspension with (Goodell) coming down … to say he's banished, but I don't think he's playing. It's probably going to be something a lot more polite."

The NFL and Falcons held a series of conference calls Wednesday and Thursday to discuss the matter, according to several league sources. The options are difficult, but include the following:


Suspension
The problem Goodell faces in suspending Vick the way he suspended Pacman Jones, Tank Johnson or Chris Henry under the personal conduct policy is that Vick has never been arrested or convicted of a crime.

While attorneys for both the league and the NFL Players Association said Goodell could suspend Vick, such a move could expose the league and the policy to legal challenge, particularly if Vick is eventually found not guilty. That is something Goodell would like to avoid.


The Falcons take action
An idea floated in the media, the league and NFLPA is to have Blank give Vick a paid leave of absence to take care of the federal trial. The problem for Blank is that he would be paying Vick's $6 million base salary for nothing. Furthermore, Blank would face fallout from fans who purchased tickets under the assumption Vick would be part of the team.

Then there is the notion that Vick might feel betrayed if he feels the team hasn't stood behind him.


Vick could take the high road
One thought thrown out by a member of the NFLPA is that Vick should ask to take the season off. Of course, this is unlikely because it would mean that Vick simply walks away from the team and his $6 million salary.

"If I was advising (Vick), I would tell him to take the year off," the source said. "I think if he does that, he takes pressure off (Goodell) to suspend him, he eventually gets the attention to die down and he probably will get some leniency from (Blank) and the league when this is all resolved."

Such a move might go a long way toward repairing Vick's image. With protests starting to ferment, the league, the Falcons and Vick would be wise to move quickly.


Vick could be cut

This is the least likely scenario, at least for the time being. However, Vick, who received a $37 million signing bonus as part of a 10-year, $130 million contract in 2004, could be let go without a devastating impact to Atlanta's salary cap.

Vick is scheduled to count for $13.57 million against the cap this season, including $7.57 million in money already paid to him, according to NFLPA figures. The Falcons would actually save all of Vick's $6 million salary if they released him. Next year, Vick is scheduled to count for $15.1 million, but would count only $14.7 million if released because of money already paid to him.

In other words, the Falcons could save $400,000 in 2008 by cutting Vick. Then again, they'd still have to replace him.


Wait out the situation
While the outcry regarding Vick has been strong, the league and the team could hope that the attention dies down enough that Vick could practice and eventually play. Of course, a trial during the season would be a huge distraction for Vick, the team and the league.

"As long as he's around the team, it's going to be a story every day about what is going on," a source said. "It's going to make it incredibly difficult for him and the team to function."
 
Don't know how many of you have ever seen dogfighting, especially in the way these goons are doing it. I've seen video footage of some fights in organized underground 'rings', and the word 'disgusting' doesn't come close. My opinion of Vick used to be that of a fan. He's one of the most exciting players to ever lace 'em up. Now, I've got to agree with Kola.....grease him, tar him, beat him, string him up, do something. If the league sits on their hands on this one, they'll tarnish their reputation just as Vick has done to himself.
 
Reports are out that the team has already asked him to take a voluntary leave of abscence because of his distraction.. If he does that I doubt he will ever step foot on a NFL field again as by the time he gets out of Jail for this his career will be over and no team is going to want to touch him, to much damage to the pocket book with sponsers and such pulling out or threatenting to at this moment.. Have you read the indictment? 18 pages and detailed to all get out...
 
The team owner issued a statement about why Vick is not suspended as of yet and he used one word that makes me think he ( Blank) is covering himself.

He said they had to work thru all the " legalities" and he kept repeating that...which prob means before he cans Vick he wants to make sure Vick doesn't come back at him trying to sue him for premature breach of contract.

The training center, about 40 miles South of me, is knee deep in anti-Vick protestors and lots of people are saying they'd boycott a game with him in it OR if he did show up on the field they'd walk out.

I'd say he's gone cause he's caused lots of troubles other than this and money means everything and they can't afford to loose their whole fan base.
 
Can't release him really Kola.. Would be a 16 million dollar hit on he salery cap this year and an 8 million dollar one next year. His only hope is to find a true breach of contract issue with him so they can sue for the money back or get the NFL to keep the signing bonus prorated over the 7 years of the contract.. I know it sucks but this is where the economics of a salary cap come into play.. Of course, if Vick spends time in the pen than I think that will automatically qualify as a breach since he couldn't show up for games than..

NFL will have to act.. And probably will but only after the July 26th or 28th hearing.
 
What should happen and what will happen are 2 different things. What should happen -Vick in jail for his crimes. What will happen -Vick aqitted on all charges he is a multimillionaire star athelete. If a former NFL star player can shoot someone and spend no time in jail. Does anyone really think Vick will miss a game?
 
this really bothers me because my older boy is a HUGE Vick fan. has several hats and jerseys. when we talked about it, he said he hated what he did, but thinks he is a great player. he thinks he should get to play, simply because he wants to watch his "hero". My boy is a big softy when it comes to animals. He even chews me out if I hit a rabbit or a bird while driving, so I know this dog fighting thing has him very torn on how to go forward as a Vick fan

I am wondering how many kids this is going to confuse, and how the league handles it will be an interesting thing to watch.
 
You have to wonder what these guys are thinking about-feel sorry for your boy it's hard to take when your favorite apple has a rotten core-better switch him over to Peyton Manning or Brett Favre lol.
 
I think it might be easier to survive the shooting of a person in this country than the charges Vick is facing. It will all depend on whether Arthur Blank thinks it will cost him money and face to let Vick play this year.. Training camp opens Thursday but Vick has a pretrial hearing.. I'm thinking he won't be at camp on Friday and most of the stuff won't be resolved. As far as being suspended without pay, the team can't do it because of thepossibilit of it coming back and biting them in the arse if he gets aquited.. The league could and just might suspend him or his lawyers could tell him to take a seat because it sends the wrong message to be out playing a game while facing these charges.. Who knows..
 
On the football side of things I feel for the Alanta fans......Matt Schaub the star back up they had for a few years signed with huston this year...Now they have Joey harrington....ouch!!!.......

Jigs maybe start talking to your son about vince young from tennesse,HE plays alot like vick and is a young up and comming star....Sorry to hear another young football fan has been let down.....The good thing is at least you raised a young man who see's the negative of such an act so early in his life..On that note you should be proud...Looks like you have raised a good caring young man...

Anyone want to leave their predictions for the super bowl winner this season? I like Indy again,but with Randy Moss on New England they may slip in.

One last thing......GO DOLPHINSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
 
NO team with Randy Moss or Terrell Owens ever wins a superbowl.. Never... They are team/coach and Quarterback killers...

Matt Schuab won't be all that he is cracked up to be.. Think of Scott Mitchell when he backed up Dan Marino and than went to Detroit for all that money... In Chicago the most popular player on the team is always the second string, if not third string Quarterback until he gets on the field...
 
First shoe has dropped... He won't play a down this year.. No way.




By DAVE GOLDBERG
AP Football Writer

July 23, 2007, 6:59 PM CDT

NEW YORK -- Michael Vick was ordered by commissioner Roger Goodell on Monday to stay away from the Atlanta Falcons' training camp until the league reviews the dogfighting charges against him.

"While it is for the criminal justice system to determine your guilt or innocence, it is my responsibility as commissioner of the National Football League to determine whether your conduct, even if not criminal, nonetheless violated league policies, including the Personal Conduct Policy," Goodell said in a letter to the quarterback.

The NFL said Vick would still get his preseason pay and Goodell told the Falcons to withhold any disciplinary action of their own until the league's review was completed.


Copyright © 2007, The Associated Press
 

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