yeah I was just thinking as long as small nuts and bad feet are in style 6807 will never die-I've used some Ohlde cattle here they were all right-nothing spectacular-our neighbors brought up some bulls from his place a few years back-they are making out like bandits selling bulls off them. That being said the old 6807 bull must of threw some good ones over the years-I sure like the e.p.d's on that bull you aree interested in-not a black jersey like most-if he's as wide as he is thick he'll be worth the money-from what I've seen of Ohlde's cows he should have a good momma too.