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you don't own that new john deer

jodywy

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It's official: John Deere and General Motors want to eviscerate the notion of ownership. Sure, we pay for their vehicles. But we don't own them. Not according to their corporate lawyers, anyway.

In a particularly spectacular display of corporate delusion, John Deere—the world's largest agricultural machinery maker —told the Copyright Office that farmers don't own their tractors. Because computer code snakes through the DNA of modern tractors, farmers receive "an implied license for the life of the vehicle to operate the vehicle."

http://www.wired.com/2015/04/dmca-ownership-john-deere/
 
I am now 100% sure that I own my 4240. The only computer technology snaking through that bad boy is the AM radio.
 
jodywy said:
RSL wrote:
I am now 100% sure that I own my 4240. The only computer technology snaking through that bad boy is the AM radio.
and how NEW is that 4240... 30 years?
It is an '82, and compared to the 4430 with 35000 hours we sold to buy it, it is practically new... :D
 
RSL said:
jodywy said:
RSL wrote:
I am now 100% sure that I own my 4240. The only computer technology snaking through that bad boy is the AM radio.
and how NEW is that 4240... 30 years?
It is an '82, and compared to the 4430 with 35000 hours we sold to buy it, it is practically new... :D

Got a JD 4040 with less then 3000 hours. Bought it new to bale hay, ended up with 2 self propelled balers so it just farmed for a couple weeks each spring. Round bale with it now, but that takes half the time of small squares. Yeah it almost books at what it cost new.

:mrgreen:
 
Denny said:
The can keep ownership on both the John Deeres and Chevys both junk in my opinion.

You can call john Deere a lot of things (overpriced overrated) but junk isn't one of them. They are by far the most reliable tractor made. We have had Jd tractors on our farm with the exception of about 8 years in the 90's where we ran magnum tractors. They pretty much traded for nothing to get dad in them. Cost quite a bit to get out of them though. ;) If you ever look on a chart of Ag companies ownership Jd is the only one never to merge or sell to another company. Which is probably why this is a problem. Maybe have to look for different brand to drive if this becomes more than a technicality.
 
Few tractors will hold value or appreciate like JD. Every brand had their issues but at the end of the day JD parts are by far the easiest for us to locate.
 
3 M L & C said:
Denny said:
The can keep ownership on both the John Deeres and Chevys both junk in my opinion.

You can call john Deere a lot of things (overpriced overrated) but junk isn't one of them. They are by far the most reliable tractor made. We have had Jd tractors on our farm with the exception of about 8 years in the 90's where we ran magnum tractors. They pretty much traded for nothing to get dad in them. Cost quite a bit to get out of them though. ;) If you ever look on a chart of Ag companies ownership Jd is the only one never to merge or sell to another company. Which is probably why this is a problem. Maybe have to look for different brand to drive if this becomes more than a technicality.

Well I've never had a John Deere Tractor after the great service I recieved on My John Deere Skidloader I'll never have one either.
 
Denny said:
3 M L & C said:
Denny said:
The can keep ownership on both the John Deeres and Chevys both junk in my opinion.

You can call john Deere a lot of things (overpriced overrated) but junk isn't one of them. They are by far the most reliable tractor made. We have had Jd tractors on our farm with the exception of about 8 years in the 90's where we ran magnum tractors. They pretty much traded for nothing to get dad in them. Cost quite a bit to get out of them though. ;) If you ever look on a chart of Ag companies ownership Jd is the only one never to merge or sell to another company. Which is probably why this is a problem. Maybe have to look for different brand to drive if this becomes more than a technicality.

Well I've never had a John Deere Tractor after the great service I recieved on My John Deere Skidloader I'll never have one either.

There are always places like that around. Every color machinery has some.
 
I give compliments to someone who can get 35,000 hours out of a 4430, but it was better than any other tractor of it's time I guess. The 40 upgrades make a substantially better tractor.

I bought a magnum "with a fresh rebuild". When I told my dad, he rhetorically asked, "why do those off breed SOBs always have fresh rebuilds?"
 

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