lazy ace wrote:
Soapweed I applaud your father for his great honesty and integrity. My family is also a purebred operation, holding our 32nd annual sale and being in the purebred business since the early sixties. Grandpa and dad have worked there butts off to have a good honest reputation backing it up with sound cattle. I can honestly say what happened at your dad's sale has never happened here that I can recall. I am really surprised that the same crew that hung your dad for three bulls got a second chance
No second chances here for that kind of crap.
We have known our ring staff and auctioneer for years and left them money and have had them buy cattle for us at numerous sales. We have had them call people for us sale day and represent cattle for us. We have had the ring men talk people out of certain bulls because that animal would not work for the potential buyers situation. Our no sale bulls are announced as they walk out the ring.
I have no grievance with the way you buy bulls but am just tired of every purebred breeder that has an auction being the scoundrels of the earth and accused of taking all the funny money and rafter bidding.
I have read 14 pages on how CAB is a well oiled machine and is helping the industry by selling more beef. It is definitely true it is all about marketing the product you raise and being proud of it. Selling bulls for a purebred outfit is no different. The average reader takes roughly three seconds on every picture they see in an advertisement. When you are paying for advertising you are going to put the best picture you can possibly take to draw attention.
Now I am not sure why auctioneers only take $250 bids. We gladly take $100 bids. You are right that is a lot of money for both buyer and seller. What would you say if the auction market sold your calves without trying to get that last dime out of them? I have witnessed plenty of feeder sales that they backed up and started over at a lower price and on the other hand have seen cattle start above market and go from there.
Now on a lighter note sale barns is a common name for livestock auction markets but some owners don't appreciate being called sale barns. It would be the same thing if an auction market owner came into Cherry County Nebraska and told you that you had a good looking farm. Some like the respect and courtesy.
have a good one
You have raised many very good points, lazy ace, and I respect your thoughts. In my case, I got burned out on the purebred business way back in my youth. It seemed like a lot of hard work without too many rewards. At the time my dad was trying to sell something that was rapidly going out of style. I was in my twenties when he was having bull sales at the ranch. Dad read and re-read the breed journals. He knew the pedigrees, and could talk the talk. My own interests were just in being a cowboy. I didn't care two whoops and a holler for showing cattle, or messing with pedigrees. I was a good cowhand and ranch worker, but just flat didn't like the hoopla of the registered business and bull sales.
We would get several loads of ear corn every year, along with several truck loads of oats. It was my job to grind all of this feed with only a scoop shovel to keep me company. Then it all had to be hauled out to feed bunks with gunny sacks over my shoulder. Each sack contained three five gallon bucketfuls of grain, or about 90 pounds per sack. I could step out of the house early in the morning, clean and feeling like a cowboy. By the time I came in for breakfast, I'd be dirty and dusty from all the grain, and have enough oat dust down my gizard to be itchy for the rest of the day. Not that I didn't want to be a rancher, but way back then I figured if I ever got into a position of authority, things were going to be different. Now my philosophy is to run the most cattle on the least amount of work per head possible. Black Angus fill the bill as well as anything.
Sorry for hijacking my own post.
Anyway, I appreciate honesty and integrity, from people in all walks of life. When people are dishonest, it blows our faith in humanity.
Thanks for educating me on the difference between a sale barn and an auction market. I have always used the terms interchangeably, and find that this is in error. I will try to mend my ways. All of your points were presented very well, and I have taken them all into consideration. Sorry if I have stepped on anyone's toes in my earlier commentary, but there is enough of that kind of B.S. that goes on to make many of us wary.