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DiamondSCattleCo said:
At the very least, a diesel should be running a 15w40, unless its cold (0F and under). Rotella T is, IMO, a good non-synthetic oil. I think its better than many synthetics out there, like Co-op synthetic.

I personally like 5w40 synthetic oil for year round use. Again, IMO, PetroCanada Duron 5w40 Synthetic is about the best oil you can buy. Its got the highest flash point of any w40 oil going, so it responds well to high turbocharger and oil galley temperatures without breaking down or coking up. With US guys, its tough to find PetroCan oils, but there are some PetroCan dealers down south.

I know many people who have run Amsoil synthetics and had great luck with them as well. I don't much care for the fact that Amsoil has never taken the time to get an API rating. They say they don't need it, but I've always wondered if all they're doing is hiding something.

Maybe I'm just a suspicious sort :)

Rod


Thanks Rod, I'll keep the synthetic in the two pickups (cummins and 8.1) because they endure some pretty cold temps and we use 15w40 Rotella in all the heavy iron anyway.
 
Wonder if they'll have the 6.7 debugged by 2010........ :!: :shock: :roll: They had the world by the tail with the 5.9 Cummins (the earlier ones anyways). Not hearing much good about the new emission diesel engines: right from light trucks to Semi's........decreased fuel mileage.......inability to be idled and flat out unreliability for working conditions. I guess that is what the enviro's call progress :!: :mad:
 
Maybe that is why they are in finace trouble. :lol:

I use Rotella T with 2 gal. of Lucas add to it in my F-250 powerstroke. I also this mixture in my tractor also.
 
cowsense said:
1) Wonder if they'll have the 6.7 debugged by 2010........

2) inability to be idled and flat out unreliability for working conditions. I guess that is what the enviro's call progress :!: :mad:

I see they've went away from the Urea injection system to a catalyst based system, so most of those troubles should go away. But keep in mind that reading the Internet will not give you a good idea of true reliability. The 6.7 has still not been downgraded from a 350,000 mile MTBF engine, which it would be had the reliability issues been truly serious and on a grand scale.

2) None of the 5.9 Cummins engines should have ever been idled. Right from 1988, the 5.9 was an engine with push rod coking issues, which were easily solved with an idle up. If you needed to idle for more than a few minutes, idle it up to 1200 RPM and all issues went away.

FH, as far as your Tahoe goes, I'd recommend you follow exactly what your owners manual says for oil viscosity, all while staying with a good synthetic (which I believe Mobil is). Every gas engine is so different that I couldn't even begin to guess. Some of the newer gas engines are taking a 5w20 now, which blows my mind.

Or is your Tahoe a Duramax?

Rod
 
A few more pics on the TDR (Egads that hurt to go there for these):

http://www.turbodieselregister.com/09chicagoprelease/OfficialPhotos/

http://www.turbodieselregister.com/09chicagoprelease/TDRPics/

Rod
 
per said:
we use 15w40 Rotella in all the heavy iron anyway.

I'm not sure if I'd be using 15w40 in your big iron in the winter. I go with the 5w40 in the winter, or if the unit uses/leaks too much, a good 10w30.

Bear in mind that heavy viscosity oils don't necessarily lubricate better. Your best lube comes from using the heaviest oil that can get into everything. In the dead of winter in Canada, unless the engine is heavily worn, 15w40 doesn't really do that (not at start up anyway). If your owners manual specifies it, then by all means go for it. Perhaps your journals, etc, are made for it (some Russian equipment is for example), but most are not.

Rod
 
DiamondSCattleCo said:
cowsense said:
1) Wonder if they'll have the 6.7 debugged by 2010........

2) inability to be idled and flat out unreliability for working conditions. I guess that is what the enviro's call progress :!: :mad:

I see they've went away from the Urea injection system to a catalyst based system, so most of those troubles should go away. But keep in mind that reading the Internet will not give you a good idea of true reliability. The 6.7 has still not been downgraded from a 350,000 mile MTBF engine, which it would be had the reliability issues been truly serious and on a grand scale.

2) None of the 5.9 Cummins engines should have ever been idled. Right from 1988, the 5.9 was an engine with push rod coking issues, which were easily solved with an idle up. If you needed to idle for more than a few minutes, idle it up to 1200 RPM and all issues went away.

FH, as far as your Tahoe goes, I'd recommend you follow exactly what your owners manual says for oil viscosity, all while staying with a good synthetic (which I believe Mobil is). Every gas engine is so different that I couldn't even begin to guess. Some of the newer gas engines are taking a 5w20 now, which blows my mind.

Or is your Tahoe a Duramax?

Rod
Rod.......I was referring to the newer diesels for idling & performance problems....plugged particulate filters etc.. Somebody said that all the emissions crap can be taken off and the injection system reprogramed but it is expensive & I'm not sure if it is the answer. My old 12v 5.9 is just like the energizer bunny.......just keeps going & going (450,000 +).....never have touched the engine or pump....but have spent my share on the rest of the truck-rough roads and heavy loads take their toll!
 
DiamondSCattleCo said:
per said:
we use 15w40 Rotella in all the heavy iron anyway.

I'm not sure if I'd be using 15w40 in your big iron in the winter. I go with the 5w40 in the winter, or if the unit uses/leaks too much, a good 10w30.

Bear in mind that heavy viscosity oils don't necessarily lubricate better. Your best lube comes from using the heaviest oil that can get into everything. In the dead of winter in Canada, unless the engine is heavily worn, 15w40 doesn't really do that (not at start up anyway). If your owners manual specifies it, then by all means go for it. Perhaps your journals, etc, are made for it (some Russian equipment is for example), but most are not.

Rod


Not to worry Rod, I am a swath, bunch, banked grass grazier most of the time. Big iron starts in the spring to put the crop in. If I do have to run a feeding tractor it sits in a heated shop all of the time.
 
cowsense said:
1) Rod.......I was referring to the newer diesels for idling & performance problems....plugged particulate filters etc..

2) Somebody said that all the emissions crap can be taken off and the injection system reprogramed

1) Yep, I know what you were referring to. It seems as though many of the bugs have been worked through (at least the Dodges didn't light anyone on fire, lol) and as for clogging filters, again, high idling helps with most of that.

All new diesels use a multiple shot injection system in which the bulk of the fuel is injected after the piston hits TDC. This means dirty idling, especially in the cold. Idle 'em up to 12-1500 and most problems just evaporate.

2) Nope. There are too many sensors crammed into that system. The particulate system could _maybe_ be removed (I don't recall whats on there for sensors), but the coding system is all burned into the ECM/PCM. We can mess with fueling levels and timing, but even those we have to be careful with, as there are numerous checks in the ECM/PCM that cannot be disabled. I worked with TST Products on the 03/04 common rail boxes, and they were a bear. The new diesel is even worse.

Rod
 
Sure is a nice truck now in about 10 years I may be able to afford one.Nothing worse than vehicle payment's.I would much rather buy land I guess.
 

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