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Here's our senior members doing a bull selection project-I gave them a list of E.P.D.'s and they had to select a heifer bull and a cow bull from it. Then we went into the yearling pen and they had to pick a heifer bull and a cow bull. Then we went into the house and saw if they picked the same bull visually that they had by the numbers. Most did ok but some picked a bull with a little too much power visually for their heifers. They're an awesome bunch of kids we've had lots of fun over the years.
 
They're just about to kick these aged bulls up so they can check out feet and legs on them-that's my oldest standing next to the big fella in the red ball cap.
 
The oldest is the tall girl in the black jacket-my daughter and has been in 4H 12 years-when she started 5 year olds could show big steers-she looked pretty tiny beside her calf but she got it done.
 
Great looking girl!!! I know you're proud of her, just from the way you talk.

Our 4-Hers here can't show any animals until they join the regular club at 9 years of age. 5-8 year olds can be CloverBuds, but no live animals allowed. I think if Al could have had an animal back then, he'd have liked CloverBuds much more than he did. lol
 
Yeah that's the way it is now-Ty had shown two big calves when they changed the rules-talk about a disgusted seven year old lol. He had to show a baby instead of a big calf lol. My one daughter showed a Brahma calf as a Clover bud-he's four now and i garantee you wouldn't get in the arena with him-he eats bullfighters for breakfast lol.
 
In Alta.at least our area,9 years is the age for regular,and they went to 7as calendar calf,meaning calf had to be born in that year.Small enough for the young ones to handle.Love the 4-H program,made a young lady out of our extremly shy daughter!!
 
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That's our son, on the left side of the back row, this year's VP, after two years of being President. He's standing by his best friend and this year's President. They are our only high school members, the rest are in elementary school still. Also, two of our kids were missing the day we took Officer pictures....... Every member has an office, it works out well so that no one feels left out.

We have a large club this year, with 8 members. Not bad for a little community of less than 200 year-round residents! :D
 
The best thing about 4H is how kids of all ages can get along and work and have fun together-our kids range from 5-20 years old. Some pretty interesting ball teams when we get together. My kids have had a fair bit of success in it but they've had alot more fun. They've been at both ends of the line up at achievement day so got to know how to win and lose-by the way the losing came first-alot of losing lol. I think we'll be around 140 or 150 4H calves for our kids if they keep at it till the end lol. I know we have 8 on the go right now lol.
 
Ranchy said:
Great looking girl!!! I know you're proud of her, just from the way you talk.

Our 4-Hers here can't show any animals until they join the regular club at 9 years of age. 5-8 year olds can be CloverBuds, but no live animals allowed. I think if Al could have had an animal back then, he'd have liked CloverBuds much more than he did. lol
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Our Extension Agent will allow any kid who wants to be in 4-H be allowed into 4-H. Montana Cowgurl has been in 4-H since she was 4, has gone through the interviews with judges since she was 4. Even though state regs say Cloverbuds are ages 6-8, he will let any child[/b] be a part of 4-H. IMHO, this has worked well in Musselshell/Golden Valley County. Our "Cloverbuds" can show anything from pocket pets to baking to clothing, and that's not the end of it. Cloverbuds program is a great program!

Besides, you can tell who did the project. I really wish some parents would butt out and let their kids shine on their own!
 
Ty got freioght trained by his steer when he was 6-showed him with a big rope burn across his face-he wanted to go to the locker plant and shoot him after the show lol. I make some parents pretty mad when I won't do everything for the kids-but it is learn to do by doing.
 
Parents can be a problam in any organisation,in 4-h they can help until achievement day,on that day kids are totally on thier own...seen a cocky feed lot owner get kicked out because he didn't follow the rules :lol: Lacey always did her own work with her animals but on mini achievement day{practice two weeks before big day}you could sure tell some kids hadn't even hardly looked at thier calves!
 
I've always done my own work, right down to toting the calves around when we're (me and my brother) halter breaking, and I take pride in it. The last time I was at a show, it was a dry show, (no sprays) and I was getting a bucket of water to clean my cow up and perdy her up a little. I walked behind a trailer to the tap, and there was people using more sprays than my sister does with her hair. lol. They got banned from the show, and it worked in my favour, cause I won my classes. Grand champion Cow, and Reserve Champion Female. In my Regional show, I go tthat same cow prettied up the year before (as a heifer)did everything on my own, showed her to Champion Angus Yearling Heifer. Needless to say, I was proud, and happy, bu tit made it even better when people asked who fit it, and I told them I did. Their jaws dropped. They asked how I did it, and I diddn't know ho wI groomed her, I just did.

My steers aren't always finished because they ar emarch/april calves, and they have a disadvantage. I have been temped to pump them, but diddn't because it was my animal, and it shows who I am./ I take pride in every one of my animals, and I would never cheat, bu tI can't say that for everyone that I know. And not one of my steers are black, just my heifers and cows, and bull calves!!
 
Northern Rancher said:
Ty got freioght trained by his steer when he was 6-showed him with a big rope burn across his face-he wanted to go to the locker plant and shoot him after the show lol. I make some parents pretty mad when I won't do everything for the kids-but it is learn to do by doing.
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When I started when I was 9, my steer has a touchof salers in him. I was leading the bugger round the yard and giving him time to eat grass, and I got him onto the driveway (ours is 1/2 mile) and he took off like a bullet, I got pulled down, dragged 50 feet, had my legs stepped on, and got back up, brought him into the yard, tied him up in a pen on his own and I told Him, "I'll be glad when you get hauled off. At the sale I cried when I had to sell him because of the workI put into him, and I go thim back , along with 600.00! Now I hold my ground, and any animal that I've broke has RESPECT for me. lol.
 
AngusCattleShower, I'm so proud of you! You have the right idea of how things are meant to be. It's a learning experience for young folks, and if the parents do everything, then what have the kids learned? :mad: Parents can be an asset, or they can be a detriment.

All my kids (our 4-H group) do their own animals, too......however I know that's not true of all the kids that show at our county fair. Seems like the FFA kids are worse about not doing their own animals, than the 4-H bunch.
 
This year I have a cloverbud and it is our first adventure of showing a bucket calf. She picked out a colored calf and wanted to show it. The calf was not to big for her. Well then PaPa got involved and now she has 1oo and some pound calf that she is trying to halter break keep in mind she weighs on a heavy day 42 pounds. One evening at the barn grandma and I were trying to help her lead the calf. Soon Papa was watching and his comment was don't let the calf lead you .......you lead the calf. I looked at him shook my head and suggested Dad try leading one of the 600 pound fall calves we have............ :wink:
 

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