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4th of july/tranquilizers

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Daryl & Angel's Farm

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Has anyone used any kind of tranquilizers for cattle during the 4th of July?
If so what was used; or what did you do? :???:

These are our first cows and they are a bit wild we can't get near them without a whip and a dog.
However our neighbor has for the last 15 years had a HUGE 4th of July party and it's LOUD, so we're sure it's gonna freak out the cows and we were thinking of tranquilizing them.
Any ideas would be helpful.

Thanks in advance
Angel
 
We had some folks last year shoot fireworks into our pastures and my cows are tame as kittens and still freaked. I spent that nite and half the next day sewing up calves from where they went thru fences.

I went over during it all and put a stop to it. They could aimed them down into their own fields where there were NO cattle.

Let's just say it won't happen again.



Go over and talk to them NOW and see what you can do. You don't want to tranq up cattle as half stoned cattle can cause more damage than sober ones.


P.S. Come after me with a whip and dog and I'd run also. :roll: :roll: :roll: Try some sweet feed and leave the whip alone. If they're that mean and needing a whip...get rid of them before they hurt you.
 
:twisted: We're looking forward to eating that darn red one with the horns!
Do you think if we locked them up in the barn??
We'd have to build stalls but I think we could get someone to come and help.
He's been having this party for so long and it wouldn't make good neighbors to ask him to not do it this year; especially since we plan on having cattle every year from now on.
When we first got these two (we only have 2) we didn't have them 24 hours and they bolted…of course we talked to a local Vet who said NOT to turn on the hotwire and silly us we thought he knew what he was talking about.
It took us about 10 hours to round them up with the help of our neighbors, needless to say no one had a good time. :???:
 
Raven is right. I might add try to add some activity around them between now and the fourth. Play radio etc and slowly add more happenings until the big day. Slow and cautious.
 
Daryl & Angel's Farm said:
:twisted: We're looking forward to eating that darn red one with the horns!
Do you think if we locked them up in the barn??
We'd have to build stalls but I think we could get someone to come and help.
He's been having this party for so long and it wouldn't make good neighbors to ask him to not do it this year; especially since we plan on having cattle every year from now on.
When we first got these two (we only have 2) we didn't have them 24 hours and they bolted…of course we talked to a local Vet who said NOT to turn on the hotwire and silly us we thought he knew what he was talking about.
It took us about 10 hours to round them up with the help of our neighbors, needless to say no one had a good time. :???:
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Get rid of them cows and get something that is tame and easy to handle. The world is full of nice tame easy handling cattle.

If that red one is that wild and wooly acting...she'd prob be like eating shoe leather anyway.

You do as you please.....but I'd not go to all that extra expense just to please a neighbor when you might could strike a deal other wise.

Neighbors talk to each other and work things out.....he'd not like 2 cows bolting thru his little party I'd guess....so I'd make that option aware to him.

Don't be a biatch about it...but just state the facts. You live there also.


Good luck!
 
We have worked very hard to make and keep the "good neighbor" thing going (it's now a $15,000.00 fine for burning) besides we like his party.
Heck this guys Rottweiler used to guard the house from us my girlfriend said just SHOOT the dam dog, we have a good friendship.
The cows are both sold but they're too young to get the full $$ out of them come September they'll both be just under 2 and at full weight.
So why do you say that doped up cows can do more damage?
Is drugging them that big of an expense?
And if we do drug them is shutting them up in the barn a bad idea?
Bottom line we can't ask our neighbor to not have his yearly party and we need to figure out what can we do on our side.
Thanks for any help
Angel
 
You guys sound like good neighbors just trying to get along. Thumbs up.
If you have only two head by all means put them in the barn. But like I said work with them play the radio, walk through them, give them treats. Just interact as much as you can between now and the fourth.
 
:-) Good idea, a little grain? Or would that upset their stomachs?
They get grain every day so it's not a new thing.
So no traquilizers?
The dogs end up the coonhound X in the closet and the ASD on our pillows.

BTW we're going to boil her head and mount on the barn (she is HELL cow)
:lol:
Thanks
Angel
 
If you only have two head, maybe you could load them on a stock trailer during the festivities. They couldn't get out of that, and they would already be "rounded up" when the party was over, so you could then turn them back out in your pasture. Good luck.
 
:) Great ideas Thanks BUNCHES!
We decided to go ahead and put them in the barn and play the radio for them. Nice and loud
We back up to 350 acres horse trails no motorized vehicles but only have 5 acres ourselves so we're real close to everyone so it's not that quiet around here.
It does make you wish you had more acreage when you see the lights on the house next door.

Again thank you all, we'll let you know if it worked or if we had to rebuild our little barn. :lol:
 
Soapweed has the right idea - - - - If they are that wild they can wreck most barns - -- - put them in a stock trailer even if you need to borrow one for the night and then if needed back the trailer in the barn.

Sweet feed ( a mixed feed available at any good feed store ) will work miricles in a short time for getting them to trust you but they still might need the trailer as that will be a new experience.
 
I agree with Soapweed, get them in a stock trailer or confined to a good set of pens.

Do you have loading/holding pens to sort and work the cattle?

Just curious, but what breed of cattle are these two?
 
We had a heck of a time getting them in a stock trailer it was a nightmare.
We have an old 1955 horse trailer it's sound.
They are a mix of Angus, Hereford, charbonx (sp). They were 5 months old when we bought them and had never been around humans at all so it took the guy ½ a day to catch the things. We got a good deal on them (for our area) and they should be nice eating at just under 2 when we call the mobile slaughterer
 
5 month old calves SHOULD NOT be that crazy....with that much regularity!

Somethings not right here......something is keeping these critters all shook up and wild, ......dog and whip comes to mind!!!

If you got them at a deal......measure that against how much prop damage they might do between now and kill time....is it worth it?

And Dr. visits aren't cheap ya know!!!


Did the guy sell you his problem?

Be careful.


remember...cows are like elephants...they NEVER forget mistreatment!!! NEVER!!
 
We never HIT them we just make noise they look at us like we're stupid. :?
The dogs just run them off if them come after us.
I was stupid ONCE and had my back to them and could hear them coming of course being stupid I was wearing crocs and could hardly run fast enough to make it to the fence.
I know the guy was getting rid of his herd and he didn't seem the type to do anything but not be around the cattle at all.
It's taught us that we're getting the next batch younger and then we will be able to handle them.
Our thought on any animal (besides dogs and cats) is that they live happy little lives and then they are food.
So we don't mistreat our critters; I was raised in the city and am CLUELESS about all of this. I'm just trying to figure it out as I go along reading as much as I can and just kinda winging it.
 
I hate to break it to you....but sounds like you got sold a bad deal.


No cattle , of a right mind, will charge anyone UNLESS they feel in danger.

( insert EXT comments here......... :wink: :wink: )

They are animals of flight....not fight.


I've 2500lb bulls you can sit down with a take a nap leaning on them.


Sounds like the quicker you can eat'em....the better you'll be. Not too sure how that meat will taste will all that adrenaline in them.


All I'll say is you better be careful. A small critter can kill you with a well placed hoof!
 
They are usually pretty calm it's just I don't like to get caught alone in a field they tend to take advantage. Can cows be territorial? Our red one threw her head and tossed her horns at the neighbors horse when he got to close to their fence .The dogs leave them alone unless I call them to me when I have to go out in the pasture with them for whatever reason.
I have no doubt that they could kill me in a heartbeat if they wanted to but we talk to them when we grain them and they are getting better HOWEVER I am NOT going to take a chance with getting run down or squished.
Usually they are eating or laying around chewing their cud ( I suppose that's normal?)


:?
 
Out of curiousity, how close are you to them when taking this pic? It looks like 10' or less and they're pretty calm about it.

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No offense intended, but if you don't know whether or not a cow chewing her cud is normal, are you certain these calves are as aggressive and wild as you think?
 
:oops: About 3 feet with a gate separating us.

All I know is when you see the red one throwing her horns and coming after you it might seem silly but it seems a bit aggressive to me.
I know chewing cud is normal BUT its all they do.
Unless our ASD is in the back pasture trying to warn off intruders then the charge is on.
She goes after her and the ASD doesn't back down she charges back (dead dog) then the coonhound X comes from behind and redirects her away.
 
Sounds like your dogs are a big part of your problem.

Let me ask this....WHY do you have these 2 anyway? What prompted you to buy these 2?

NOTE: ANY animal with horns will sling their head/horns....it's just what they do. It's built into them via evolution.
 

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