92% Americans Support COOL

[Anonymous]

89% want meat and dairy products from cloned animals labeled as such...

That's pretty hypothetical isn't it? Anyone here have any cloned cattle? :roll:

Actually Kato-- there is more cloned cattle around than you would suspect...This is the ruling that brought it up-- and since then I've read several newspaper articles about folks that have herds of cloned cattle or their offspring, wanting to get this rule implemented - mostly dairy, but one was a beef breed in Montana even- that had some calves and cows out of cloned bulls...

Today 10/17/2006 9:08:00 AM


US FDA Set To Approve Milk, Meat From Clones



NEW YORK (Dow Jones)--The U.S. Food and Drug Administration may decide by the end of this year to allow the sale of milk and meat from cloned animals for public consumption, The Washington Post reports in its Tuesday edition.



The decision is based largely on new data indicating that milk and meat from cloned livestock and their offspring pose no unique risks to consumers, the Post said.



"Our evaluation is that the food from cloned animals is as safe as the food we eat every day," said Stephen F. Sundlof, the FDA's chief of veterinary medicine, the Post said.



Newspaper Web Site: http://www.washingtonpost.com

 

[HAY MAKER]

Lawmakers Say FDA Not Keeping U.S. Food Safe


Lawmakers on Tuesday blasted the Food and Drug Administration's plan
to close half its laboratories and charged the agency lacks the resources and authority to ensure food safety, particularly when it comes to imported foods, according to wire service reports.

"FDA's ill-conceived decision to close seven of its 13 laboratories likely would expose American consumers to even more danger from unsafe foods, particularly imports," said Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.) at a hearing of the FDA and food safety subcommittee of the House Committee on Energy and Commerce.

A committee investigation found the FDA ill-equipped to police imports and said importers have learned how to skirt FDA monitoring systems. The criticism comes in the wake of several high-profile food safety cases, including tainted domestic spinach and peanut butter and contaminated seafood and snacks imported from China.

Rep. John Dingell (D-Mich.) vowed to offer legislation to better fund FDA food safety efforts and give the agency more authority to monitor, test and respond.

Meanwhile, on the other side of the Capitol, a Senate Appropriations subcommittee voted to boost FDA funding for 2008 by $186 million to $1.75 billion to bolster food and drug safety enforcement efforts, according to Congressional Quarterly.

 

[PORKER]

First big story about the FDA hearings. link
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aM_M4ONRASLw&refer=us

Don't you just love eating those fresh caught talapia from overseas as pictured in the above article

 

[Cattleman]

I think these questions are pretty rediculous, if there are two steaks side by side, and one was tested for BSE and one wasn't....I would probably buy.....the cheaper one!!! Sure I want all those things too, but when it comes down to it, I am not going to pay for it. Lets just increase our price of beef relative to the price of chicken to supply these requirements, so people can go buy more chicken?? Economics, will drive that one.

For the people fighting on here, we should ask how much more consumers are going to pay for these additional costs, and then look at how much more money the producer is going to make (which is most of us) before we make a decision. Anyone have this info to make an informed decision?

If you do, please share.

Thanks

 

[Ben Roberts]

I think these questions are pretty rediculous, if there are two steaks side by side, and one was tested for BSE and one wasn't....I would probably buy.....the cheaper one!!! Sure I want all those things too, but when it comes down to it, I am not going to pay for it. Lets just increase our price of beef relative to the price of chicken to supply these requirements, so people can go buy more chicken?? Economics, will drive that one.

For the people fighting on here, we should ask how much more consumers are going to pay for these additional costs, and then look at how much more money the producer is going to make (which is most of us) before we make a decision. Anyone have this info to make an informed decision?

If you do, please share.

Thanks

Cattleman, you bring up some very good points, I don't believe the consumer will have an increase in price, as much, as the producers will have a decrease in price to fund these extra cost. Beef, competes for market share with all other proteins. You just can't expect the consumer, to pay more forever, and keep that market share.

Best Regards
Ben Roberts

 

[PORKER]

From what have heard ,BSE tests in the EU costs $19.50 for each animal, so for 500 # of boned beef thats $0.04 cents per pound of tested beef unless bse tester urine test can do it cheaper. Some difference eh. Like $4.95 a pound not BSE tested or $4.99 a pound Tested. Will anyone Notice ??

 

[Cattleman]

Thats all it will cost porker?? No additional costs associated with logistics? Tracking the tested meat, the effects on the production line or the coordination of production lines for tested and non-tested? You are in a dream world porker. Can the tested plants slaughter non-tested beef? What if there is contamination with in the plant? How do you guarantee that?...If things were only so simple....

 

[Sandhusker]

First big story about the FDA hearings. link
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aM_M4ONRASLw&refer=us

Don't you just love eating those fresh caught talapia from overseas as pictured in the above article

What costs? There's not an imported box of beef or live animal in the packer's lots that you can't tell the country of origin on TODAY! TODAY! The hard work is already done! The packers can easily segregate the product because they're already doing it TODAY with their branded products.

The packers are telling you guys that COOL will be prohibitively expensive, but at the same time, they want NAIS where the animal has to be tracked from pasture to pasture and that's not raising your eyebrows? Come on, guys!