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A Volatile Corn Market Twitches

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A Volatile Corn Market Twitches
"The best news for corn producers is that USDA raised its projected range for the U.S. average on-farm price of corn by 30¢/bu. on both ends and now sees prices averaging $3.20-3.80 during 2007-2008," reports Brock Associates after USDA released its Crop Report on Friday.

However, USDA's bump in projected corn prices was lower than the market expected, and the market's initial reaction to the news was negative, says Richard Brock, Brock Associates president. "The market was expecting a more bullish report for corn, and it didn't get it."

Still the USDA's new numbers put a higher floor on what corn prices might fall to this marketing year, says Jim Hilker, Michigan State University Extension marketing specialist. Hilker posted "Probabilistic Price Forecasts for Corn" on Nov. 6 and says those price forecasts are still valid after USDA released its Crop Report on Friday.

"Both historically and profit-wise, the futures prices for corn are really good, even if you have a weak basis price right now," says Hilker. "By March, I think basis prices will be stronger, especially if you're near an ethanol plant. For now, the market is telling farmers to hold onto their on-farm stored corn, and there's more than enough of a price spread to cover storage costs."

According to Hilker's forecasts, which are based on options markets, there is about a 50-50 chance that March corn futures will be close to $4/bu. "There is a 10% chance that the price will be higher than $4.90 and a 10% chance that the price will be less than or equal to $3.23," predicts Hilker. "This indicates that there is an 80% probability that the price will fall between these two prices. There is a 50% chance the price will be less than or equal to (or greater than) $3.97."

The middle values to these probable prices (the prices in the 80% probability range) "have proven to be quite accurate in the past," says Hilker. However, he reminds farmers that these are futures prices that have to be adjusted by the local basis price. Although Hilker predicts that basis prices will increase in March, the basis prices typically decrease at harvest.
 
If fuel goes to 4.75 a gal. and nitrogen goes to $575.00 a ton and a new 12 row planter is $86,000.00 we are going to need $8.00 corn to break even. Best thing I can see is to build a good fence around the field, seed it , turn some hungry loose and let them do the work.
 
Shorthornguy said:
If fuel goes to 4.75 a gal. and nitrogen goes to $575.00 a ton and a new 12 row planter is $86,000.00 we are going to need $8.00 corn to break even. Best thing I can see is to build a good fence around the field, seed it , turn some hungry loose and let them do the work.

Why not just use the old planter do some crop rotation and relax on the amount of commercial fertilizer.I do agree that the ag sector is going to have to change quite a bit.I quit haying this fall hopeing for a late snow as it looks I saved baleing and feeding about 200 bales of hay.If we would have gotten an early snow I was going to graze the stockpiled forage in the spring.If I would have baled it I would have been feeding 2 weeks ago as it is were good for 3 or 4 more weeks.Your right if you have a fence around it you've got alot more option's.As it is were going to wean our fall calves the end of march and turn those cows with all the bulls out to graze in april.We don't normally go to grass until mid may.I will see how this works I may change alot of calveing dates around here.Profit per cow is more important than pounds per cow.
 
Denny said:
Shorthornguy said:
If fuel goes to 4.75 a gal. and nitrogen goes to $575.00 a ton and a new 12 row planter is $86,000.00 we are going to need $8.00 corn to break even. Best thing I can see is to build a good fence around the field, seed it , turn some hungry loose and let them do the work.

Why not just use the old planter do some crop rotation and relax on the amount of commercial fertilizer.I do agree that the ag sector is going to have to change quite a bit.I quit haying this fall hopeing for a late snow as it looks I saved baleing and feeding about 200 bales of hay.If we would have gotten an early snow I was going to graze the stockpiled forage in the spring.If I would have baled it I would have been feeding 2 weeks ago as it is were good for 3 or 4 more weeks.Your right if you have a fence around it you've got alot more option's.As it is were going to wean our fall calves the end of march and turn those cows with all the bulls out to graze in april.We don't normally go to grass until mid may.I will see how this works I may change alot of calveing dates around here.Profit per cow is more important than pounds per cow.
-Another completely justifiable reason for reducing the size of our brood cows to an average of 1100-1300 lbs! Heavier cows eat MORE hay and graze. This tenet has been proven many times in the past, and is absolutely true in these days of HIGH grain prices and drought in many sectors. Proper thinking and management is critical for the survival of our businesses.

DOC HARRIS
 
Denny said:
Shorthornguy said:
If fuel goes to 4.75 a gal. and nitrogen goes to $575.00 a ton and a new 12 row planter is $86,000.00 we are going to need $8.00 corn to break even. Best thing I can see is to build a good fence around the field, seed it , turn some hungry loose and let them do the work.

Why not just use the old planter do some crop rotation and relax on the amount of commercial fertilizer.I do agree that the ag sector is going to have to change quite a bit.I quit haying this fall hopeing for a late snow as it looks I saved baleing and feeding about 200 bales of hay.If we would have gotten an early snow I was going to graze the stockpiled forage in the spring.If I would have baled it I would have been feeding 2 weeks ago as it is were good for 3 or 4 more weeks.Your right if you have a fence around it you've got alot more option's.As it is were going to wean our fall calves the end of march and turn those cows with all the bulls out to graze in april.We don't normally go to grass until mid may.I will see how this works I may change alot of calveing dates around here.Profit per cow is more important than pounds per cow.

The best thing you can do to cut input cost is to synchronize the cows highest nutritional needs with your ranches highest forage output.
 

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