ACORN-Voter Fraud-HUGE Fine?

[Tam]

Now, Tam, did I take up for ACORN, or just state the facts in the Fox article without all the tabloidism that is so apparently aimed at the likes of larry and okfarmer to get them riled up?

Tex

Tex wrote in this very thread

Were any of the dead people registered? Did any of the fictitious names actually get registered and did they show up to vote? Who cares if they plucked names out of the phone book and tried to register them? Did any of these get registered illegally or were they just turned in to the organization to get the 21 blackjack program. Unless these people were people higher up in the organization putting these things through, this is nothing big.

Some people go nuts over ACORN. I think they are nuts.

NOTHING BIG :roll: Just maybe this is why people go nuts over ACORN and them getting billions of tax payer money to funnel back to the Democrat candidate of their choice TEX :roll:

Recent Fraud

State Year Details
AR 1998 A contractor with ACORN-affiliated Project Vote was arrested for falsifying about 400 voter registration cards.
CO 2005 Two ex-ACORN employees were convicted in Denver of perjury for submitting false voter registrations.
2004 An ACORN employee admitted to forging signatures and registering three of her friends to vote 40 times.
CT 2008 The New York Post reported that ACORN submitted a voter registration card for a 7-year-old Bridgeport girl. Another 8,000 cards from the same city will be scrutinized for possible fraud.
FL 2009 In September, 11 ACORN workers were accused of forging voter registration applications in Miami-Dade County during the last election. The Florida Department of Law Enforcement and the state attorney's office scoured hundreds of suspicious applications provided by ACORN and found 197 of 260 contained personal ID information that did not match any living person.
2008 Election officials in Brevard County have given prosecutors more than 23 suspect registrations from ACORN. The state's Division of Elections is also investigating complaints in Orange and Broward Counties.
2004 A Florida Department of Law Enforcement spokesman said ACORN was "singled out" among suspected voter registration groups for a 2004 wage initiative because it was "the common thread" in the agency's fraud investigations.
IN 2008 Election officials in Indiana have thrown out more than 4,000 ACORN-submitted voter registrations after finding they had identical handwriting and included the names of many deceased Indianans, and even the name of a fast food restaurant.
MI 2008 Clerks in Detroit found a "sizeable number of duplicate and fraudulent [voter] applications" from the Michigan branch of ACORN. Those applications have been turned over to the U.S. Attorney's office for investigation.
2004 The Detroit Free Press reported that "overzealous or unscrupulous campaign workers in several Michigan counties are under investigation for voter-registration fraud, suspected of attempting to register nonexistent people or forging applications for already-registered voters." ACORN-affiliate Project Vote was one of two groups suspected of turning in the documents.
MO 2008 Nearly 400 ACORN-submitted registrations in Kansas City have been rejected due to duplication or fake information.
2007 Four ACORN employees were indicted in Kansas City for charges including identity theft and filing false registrations during the 2006 election.
2006 Eight ACORN employees in St. Louis were indicted on federal election fraud charges. Each of the eight faces up to five years in prison for forging signatures and submitting false information.
2003 Of 5,379 voter registration cards ACORN submitted in St. Louis, only 2,013 of those appeared to be valid. At least 1,000 are believed to be attempts to register voters illegally.
MN 2004 During a traffic stop, police found more than 300 voter registration cards in the trunk of a former ACORN employee, who had violated a legal requirements that registration cards be submitted to the Secretary of State within 10 days of being filled out and signed.
NC 2008 County elections officials have sent suspicious voter registration applications to the state Board of Elections. Many of the applications had similar or identical names, but with different addresses or dates of birth.
2004 North Carolina officials investigated ACORN for submitting fake voter registration cards.
NM 2008 Prosecutors are investigating more than 1,100 ACORN-submitted voter registration cards after a county clerk found them to be fraudulent. Many of the cards included duplicate names and slightly altered personal information.
2005 Four ACORN employees submitted as many as 3,000 potentially fraudulent signatures on the group's Albuquerque ballot initiative. A local sheriff added: "It's safe to say the forgery was widespread."
2004 An ACORN employee registered a 13-year-old boy to vote. Citing this and other examples, New Mexico State Representative Joe Thompson stated that ACORN was "manufacturing voters" throughout New Mexico.
NV 2009 Nevada authorities indicted ACORN on 26 counts of voter registration fraud and 13 counts of illegally compensating canvassers. ACORN provided a bonus compensation program called "Blackjack" or "21+" for any canvasser who registered more than 20 voters per shift, which is illegal under Nevada law.
2008 Nevada state authorities raided ACORN's Las Vegas headquarters as part of a task force investigation of election fraud. Fraudulent registrations included players from the Dallas Cowboys.
OH 2008 ACORN activists gave Ohio residents cash and cigarettes in exchange for filling out voter registration card, according to the New York Post. Some voters claim to have registered dozens of times, and one man says he signed up on 72 cards.
2007 A man in Reynoldsburg was indicted on two felony counts of illegal voting and false registration, after being registered by ACORN to vote in two separate counties.
2004 A grand jury indicted a Columbus ACORN worker for submitting a false signature and false voter registration form. In Franklin County, two ACORN workers submitted what the director of the board of election supervisors called "blatantly false" forms. In Cuyahoga County, ACORN and its affiliate Project Vote submitted registration cards that had the highest rate of errors for any voter registration group.
PA 2009 Seven ACORN workers in the Pittsburgh area were indicted for submitting falsified voter registration forms. Six of the seven were also indicted for registering voters under an illegal quota system.
2008 State election officials have thrown out 57,435 voter registrations, the majority of which were submitted by ACORN. The registrations were thrown out after officials found "clearly fraudulent" signatures, vacant lots listed as addresses, and other signs of fraud.
2008 An ACORN employee in West Reading, PA, was sentenced to up to 23 months in prison for identity theft and tampering with records. A second ACORN worker pleaded not guilty to the same charges and is free on $10,000 bail.
2004 Reading's Director of Elections received calls from numerous individuals complaining that ACORN employees deliberately put inaccurate information on their voter registration forms. The Berks County director of elections said voter fraud was "absolutely out of hand," and added: "Not only do we have unintentional duplication of voter registration but we have blatant duplicate voter registrations." The Berks County deputy director of elections added that ACORN was under investigation by the Department of Justice.
TX 2008 In Harris County, nearly 10,000 ACORN-submitted registrations were found to be invalid, including many with clearly fraudulent addresses or other personal information.
2008 ACORN turned in the voter registration form of David Young, who told reporters "The signature is not my signature. It's not even close." His social security number and date of birth were also incorrect.
VA 2005 In 2005, the Virginia State Board of Elections admonished Project Vote and ACORN for turning in a significant number of faulty voter registrations. An audit revealed that 83% of sampled registrations that were rejected for carrying false or questionable information were submitted by Project Vote. Many of these registrations carried social security numbers that exist for other people, listed non-existent or commercial addresses, or were for convicted felons in violation of state and federal election law.

In a letter to ACORN, the State Board of Elections reported that 56% of the voter registration applications ACORN turned in were ineligible. Further, a full 35% were not submitted in a timely manner, as required by law. The State Board of Elections also commented on what appeared to be evidence of intentional voter fraud. "Additionally," they wrote, "information appears to have been altered on some applications where information given by the applicant in one color ink has been scratched through and re-entered in another color ink. Any alteration of a voter registration application is a Class 5 Felony in accordance with § 24.2-1009 of the Code of Virginia."
WA 2007 Three ACORN employees pleaded guilty, and four more were charged, in the worst case of voter registration fraud in Washington state history. More than 2,000 fraudulent voter registration cards were submitted by the group during a voter registration drive.
WI 2008 At least 33,000 ACORN-submitted registrations in Milwaukee have been called into question after it was found that the organizations had been using felons as registration workers, in violation of state election rules. Two people involved in the ongoing Wisconsin voter fraud investigation have been charged with felonies.
2004 The district attorney's office investigated seven voter registration applications Project Vote employees filed in the names of people who said the group never contacted them. Former Project Vote employee Robert Marquise Blakely told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel that he had not met with any of the people whose voter registration applications he signed, "an apparent violation of state law," according to the paper.

YEA NOTHING BIG :roll: Then you have reports like this TEX

Three Wake County, North Carolina, Democrats have admitted to voter fraud charges, according to local news reports.

Kierra Fontae Leache, Shelia Romona Hodges and Brandon Earl Mclean each admitted to casting two ballots in recent elections. Local reports indicate all three voted for President Barack Obama twice in 2008.

According to ABC News Channel 11 in Raleigh-Durham, authorities have placed the three on $10,000 bonds.

The North Carolina Republican Party says this kind of fraudulent voter behavior is why the state needs a voter ID law. In July, Democratic Gov. Beverly Perdue vetoed state Republicans' latest attempt at instituting such a law, calling it an "obstacle" to constitutional principles. (RELATED: Mississippi NAACP leader sent to prison for 10 counts of voter fraud)

"The reason why Republicans have fought to promote proper voter-identification laws is to prevent fraud like this from happening," NCGOP chair Robin Hayes said in a statement. "While Republicans are fighting to protect the integrity of our democracy, Governor Perdue's veto fights to protect criminality in our election process. I know she embraces her 'fighter' image, but it's clear that the only thing she fights for is fraud."

How do you think these three were able to vote twice for Obama in the same election TEX? Can you guarantee that the officials caught all the illegal fraudulent registations ACORN sent in and someone didn't take advantage of those that were not caught to vote twice like these three did? There were 18500 dead people found on OHIO voters list and another 4000 on Wis. Can you guarantee ACORN had nothing to do with any of these? Voter Fraud is a BIG DEAL at least it would be if a Republican organization was doing right TEX.
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[Tam]

OHIO had 18500 dead voters on their Voters list so let's see what was going on in that state shall we

I'm stunned by the irony here.

For the past eight years, Americans have been bombarded nearly nonstop by cries of "Bush stole the White House," without a single proven shred of evidence, without a single indictment or conviction of Republicans on vote fraud, vote rigging or anything even close. Meanwhile the only group indicated and convicted in actual vote fraud cases in the last two elections -- ACORN -- is fully mobilized still, claims to have registered 1.3 million new voters this year, and is tied historically and inextricably to our front-running candidate for President, Barack Obama.

If anyone tried to sell this story as fiction, no publisher in his right mind would touch it. The average reader's willingness to suspend disbelief simply doesn't stretch this far.

Yet, here we are two weeks out from what may very well be an actual, stolen presidential election.

ACORN pledged to spend $35 million this year in voter registration and get-out-the-vote drives. The bulk of this money has been targeted at the most important battleground states of the past 2 elections. And as the National Black Republican Association proclaims, ACORN's motto is: "Let Every Fraudulent Vote Count!" Indeed the ACORN strategy apparently rests on Mickey Mouse & company voting early, often and everywhere.

Should legal, registered, qualified voters be concerned that their votes will be negated by fraudulent votes? Yes, we all should be.

State of the Investigations

With investigations ongoing in about a dozen states, Barack Obama has requested that everything be turned over to a special prosecutor. Not just any special prosecutor either. Obama wants all of the ACORN investigations lumped into the ongoing, Democrat-launched probe into Justice Dept. attorney firings in the Bush Administration.


The bottom line here is simple. Obama and the Democrats are attempting to frame every investigation into voter fraud, vote rigging and vote buying from the past 2 elections, as well as this one, as purely political. According to Obama and the Democrats in control of Congress, none of this ACORN fraud ever happened. The attorneys were fired because they refused to investigate ACORN and the Democrats say that was political. Obama claims that all investigations now being mounted by states and the FBI are intended to suppress voter turnout, and are politically motivated.

Only ivy-league lawyers could turn this heap of poppycock into thousands of words on good paper.

Maybe the individual state efforts can save American democracy.

Ohio, the state to watch: When Sarah Palin implored Ohioans last week not to let "the Buckeye state become the ACORN state," she hit that nail squarely upon its head. In the very state that could decide this election, if it turns out to be close, the Democrat Secretary of State got her way last week with an emergency decision of the Supreme Court. The High Court overturned a circuit court ruling that had instructed Ms. Brunner to aid counties swamped with new voter registrations to weed out fraud by checking them against state databases of driver's license and social security numbers. She refused.

But the U.S. Supreme Court did not address the substance of the suit. It ruled in Brunner's favor on a technicality of the 2002 Help America Vote Act, which directed the suit to state court, rather than federal. Attorneys have now filed a brief with Ohio's state supreme court. The judges have instructed Brunner to respond by Monday, and both sides must file briefs by Friday.

Of course, all this stalling on Brunner's part has the appearance of being purely political. The legitimate Ohio voters have a right to a legally protected process. They may be forced to demand it, or we all may pay the price.

Meanwhile, also in Ohio, the Buckeye Institute has filed a RICO suit against ACORN. What may be the most encouraging sign in this entire election is the fact that Hillary Clinton Democrats are joining Republicans and investigators in this struggle to protect the integrity of America's vote.

Nearly completely ignored by our watchdog mainstream media is the fact that a huge rift still exists in the Democrat Party due to the thuggish tactics used by Obama, his supporters and ACORN to garner the Democratic nomination. Caucus fraud was rampant and Democrats have been collecting evidence and video testimonies by eye witnesses for months now. This is the evidence that they are now sharing with plaintiffs in the Ohio RICO suit.

As reported on the Hillbuzz website last week:

"What's happening here is something we have never seen before: centrist Clinton Democrats and Republicans are working together to expose the DNC and Obama campaign's illegal activities and orchestrated, coordinated fraud. Both parties are working with federal agents to investigate ACORN, which has been funded with upwards of $800,000 in questionable donations from the Obama campaign (in what appears to be the expressed and explicit direction to engineer voter fraud in the general election).

"The tactics being employed now in the 15 states currently under investigation are the VERY SAME TACTICS we saw on the ground in Iowa, Texas, Colorado, Nebraska, Indiana, and other states working for Hillary Clinton in the primaries."

A lifelong Democrat from D.C., Dr. Lynette Long, has spent the past 6 months investigating and tallying results from the Democratic Party nominating contests. Her conclusion:

"As I write this, the Democratic Party is poised to formally nominate Barack Obama as its candidate for President of the United States.

"It's the triumph of fraud.

"I've spent the past two months immersed in data from the 2008 Democratic caucuses. After studying the procedures and results from all fourteen caucus states, interviewing dozens of witnesses, and reviewing hundreds of personal stories, my conclusion is that the Obama campaign willfully and intentionally defrauded the American public by systematically undermining the caucus process." (emphasis in original)

Even as Barack Obama and his attorneys attempt to portray investigations into ACORN voter fraud as politically motivated attacks brought by Republicans, faithful Democrats band together with Republicans and Independents behind the scenes to protect the integrity of the American electoral system from systematic fraud.

Apparently Barack Obama's mama forgot to teach him the meaning of shame.

In this I second Hillary Clinton: Shame, shame on you, Barack Obama

18500 dead people on the voters list in a state that ACORN targeted with their voter registration efforts and the Democrat Sec of State refused to help check the voter list to see to it all the voters were actual living breathing legal voters. Anyone think something stinks here, And guess who won Ohio in 2008, you got it ACORN"S favorite candidate OBAMA, who appointed the guy that is to investigate Charges of voter fraud against ACORN. The same appointed guy that dropped the voter intimidation charges against the Black Panthers. See a pattern here yet TEX. YEP NOTHING BIG HERE TEX. :roll:

 

[Tex]

Tam, I am sorry to inform you but at any given time there are thousands of dead people on the voter roles. This isn't an ACORN thing, it is the simple fact that people die while on the voter roles and no one took them off because there is not a process for it.

I would like any and all people who are dead and get caught actually voting go to directly to jail immediately. :shock:

This is the kind of thing that goes from a normal event into a political emotional feeding frenzy for the wackos out there who are ill informed and can actually be persuaded that the above situation is someone's fault by nothing but propaganda.

If someone is using a dead person's identity to vote, then that person needs to be prosecuted (if it warrants it) and go to jail. I say if it warrants it because if someone lives in the same household and has the same name, it could happen innocently---but not if they vote twice.

When we have an electorate that is sooooooo dumb about these things, it is no wonder to me how we get elected officials who are soooooooo dumb too.

The same problem found itself in the Iraqi elections. The way they controlled it there was to dip everyone's finger in ink so they could not vote twice. Over here, a simple finger print if one does not have id would suffice. I did a lot of fingerprinting when I was a notary. It isn't hard and it is very good evidence if challenges ever came up. It is a very simple solution to the dead voting.

Of course then one has to train poll workers not to take fingerprints unless the person is attached to the finger being taken and they are alive.

That shouldn't be that hard to do.

Again, tabloid journalism making money from the emotionally vulnerable in our population. At some point some of you will have to actually grow up and wean yourselves off of this stuff.

Tex

 

[hopalong]

Not a big problem with Acorn, we need to focus on the big problem. One that only affects part of us, not the whole country!!

 

[Tex]

Not a big problem with Acorn, we need to focus on the big problem. One that only affects part of us, not the whole country!!

Any voter fraud is a problem, hopaling. It just isn't the major problem. It isn't the reason Obama is in the White House, it isn't the reason our Senate voted 90 to 8 with two abstaining to undo the Glass Steagal Act, and it isn't the cause of our financial crisis nor the problem with the big guys buying our policy while we argue over little things like this.

It, in a nutshell, is an acorn of a problem.

Granted, an acorn can sprout and if not cut down can become a big problem, but we already have huge major problems and the little acorns are not the main problem right now. We have much larger already sprouted big huge problems, not just some potential problem that has little significance at this time.

It is a diversion from the main frauds our policy makers have been engaged in when they sell public policy to the highest bidder for their own selfish re-election rather than identifying and promoting the real problems, which includes their actions.

These larger problems are the cancers that are metastasizing and are that are killing our democracy and our economy. No one wants to admit this is the cancer killing us because we can worry about acorns that have virtually no significance at this time. It is like worrying about a freckle turning into cancer when you already have brain cancer taking over half your brain.

Tex

 

[hopalong]

So we ignore the freckle??? OK :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

 

[Mike]

Wonder if Tex ever thought about voter fraud, corporate fraud, and politician fraud/buying being one and the same?

It's a societal systemic problem that some choose to ignore.

 

[Tex]

Wonder if Tex ever thought about voter fraud, corporate fraud, and politician fraud/buying being one and the same?

It's a societal systemic problem that some choose to ignore.

This I agree with. All of these problems should be addressed but it seems only the very little ones are addressed as a substitute.

Tex

 

[Steve]

Your son had the absolute right to be angry with his college or anyone, including ACORN or the republican party holding a registration drive or the local priest doing the same thing. If I were the District

If Steve's son, or a dead person were to get caught voting twice, then there would have been real trouble for someone, as it should be.

you sure can twist up things can't you...

to throw in the republican party, a local priest and my son and use them in the context you just did was despicable..

once again you've shown your true colors.

why do you keep pretending to be conservative?

you never seem to ever show any conservative traits, values or ideals..

maybe you just another independent who voted for Obama..

 

[Steve]

now let me get this straight.. we have two cases of bribery in Mexico..

two.. and they by most accounts are small change when it comes to problems in Mexico..

and how many cases of voter fraud were there..

more then two?

in my opinion Acorn and Tyson should be shut down.. dismantled and all assets sold.. and the proceeds forfeited like in any other crime.


this isn't the first case with acorn, or tyson.. and more then likely won't be the last..

but to elevate one over the other... is childish..

there is a reason Lady Justice is blind.. so all crimes/criminals can be punished on their own merits, not compared to others

 

[Tex]

Your son had the absolute right to be angry with his college or anyone, including ACORN or the republican party holding a registration drive or the local priest doing the same thing. If I were the District

If Steve's son, or a dead person were to get caught voting twice, then there would have been real trouble for someone, as it should be.

you sure can twist up things can't you...

to throw in the republican party, a local priest and my son and use them in the context you just did was despicable..

once again you've shown your true colors.

why do you keep pretending to be conservative?

you never seem to ever show any conservative traits, values or ideals..

maybe you just another independent who voted for Obama..

Of course, Steve, that was to build you up for your next post which is to say that Lady Justice should be blind no matter who is breaking the law, a priest, your son, a republican campaign (which I was involved in)---let me add to that--- a democrat campaign, or any other group that is breaking the law on purpose for their own benefit. I did not mean to imply that your son was priestly, a republican, a democrat, or breaking the law. He was the victim and the others were those creating the victims by breaking the law (assuming they did).

Of course he could have forgotten to register to vote in his new district or the registration not being completed and canceling his old location (you didn't give these facts).

Tex

 

[Larrry]

Tex tries to portray this voter fraud as just an oversight on a poor voter. Either you would have to be brain dead or don't because of who ACORN is. Tex don't weaste your time, your true coloras are showing no matter how much often you claim to be fair minded. You are the farthest from it.
YOU must have gotten you debating tactics from ot

 

[hopalong]

OUCH that had to have hurt larry!!!

 

[okfarmer]

Larry,

Leave Tex alone. You know that he doesn't like to debate facts. And you can only use emotion if it has a liberal slant- like saying that corporations are "evil", the non-productive "deserve" the savings of the productive- I mean the "needy" (don't get me wrong Tex, I do my part in helping all I can with a hand up- but it is my decision and I have a chance to have a personal relationship and show it is out of love, and there is a responsibility for the assistance.)

Tex,

You love wikipedia:

Debate or debating is a formal method of interactive and representational argument. Debate is a broader form of argument than logical argument, which only examines consistency from axiom, and factual argument, which only examines what is or isn't the case or rhetoric which is a technique of persuasion. Though logical consistency, factual accuracy and some degree of emotional appeal to the audience are important elements of the art of persuasion, in debating, one side often prevails over the other side by presenting a superior "context" and/or framework of the issue, which is far more subtle and strategic.

Larry, I hope you don't mind that I speak for you on this.

Tex, Larry and I appologize for presenting a superior "context" and/or framework of the issue by using your own position against yourself on these silly, twisted ideas that ACORN is an unimportant situation.

I would use the analogy that your slip is showing. But in reallity, you keep walking out into the 60 mph gusts and showing us everything. Hope your wearing panties!

 

[hopalong]

Damn Tex is biatch slapped again too bad he is so hard headed and can't feel the fact he is WRONG again,
look out here comes the liberal response of name calling,

 

[Tam]

Tam, I am sorry to inform you but at any given time there are thousands of dead people on the voter roles. This isn't an ACORN thing, it is the simple fact that people die while on the voter roles and no one took them off because there is not a process for it.

I would like any and all people who are dead and get caught actually voting go to directly to jail immediately. :shock:

This is the kind of thing that goes from a normal event into a political emotional feeding frenzy for the wackos out there who are ill informed and can actually be persuaded that the above situation is someone's fault by nothing but propaganda.

If someone is using a dead person's identity to vote, then that person needs to be prosecuted (if it warrants it) and go to jail. I say if it warrants it because if someone lives in the same household and has the same name, it could happen innocently---but not if they vote twice.

When we have an electorate that is sooooooo dumb about these things, it is no wonder to me how we get elected officials who are soooooooo dumb too.

The same problem found itself in the Iraqi elections. The way they controlled it there was to dip everyone's finger in ink so they could not vote twice. Over here, a simple finger print if one does not have id would suffice. I did a lot of fingerprinting when I was a notary. It isn't hard and it is very good evidence if challenges ever came up. It is a very simple solution to the dead voting.

Of course then one has to train poll workers not to take fingerprints unless the person is attached to the finger being taken and they are alive.

That shouldn't be that hard to do.

Again, tabloid journalism making money from the emotionally vulnerable in our population. At some point some of you will have to actually grow up and wean yourselves off of this stuff.

Tex

Tex what is the likelyhood of the Dems allowing to fingerprint voters when they refuse to even have voter provide ID to vote? What is the likelyhood of the Dems allowing fingerprinting when the AG is sueing states that just want to have criminals provide proof they are in the US LEGALLY? What is the Likelyhood the Dems are going to do anything about voter fraud when those being signed up are voting for them and YES TEX there were DEMS voting twice and convicted for doing so, whether you want to admit it or not. Just who do you think the illegals in NM were voting for when it is the Dems sueing the states to stop them from tossing their illegal butts out of the US.

This is a BIG DEAL to most people and trying to sweeping it aside like it is nothing to worry about, just shows how far you will go to look the other way. :roll:

 

[Mike]

Bottom line is that ACORN paid its employees or people working for them a bonus for doing their job and registering at least 21 people during their shift?

Do you realize that is against the law for anyone to pay their people to solicit voter registrations? That can't be a job. Bonus or no bonus.

If we allow payment for that, the party with the most money will have the most voters.

You really don't get it do you? :lol:

 

[Tex]

Bottom line is that ACORN paid its employees or people working for them a bonus for doing their job and registering at least 21 people during their shift?

Do you realize that is against the law for anyone to pay their people to solicit voter registrations? That can't be a job. Bonus or no bonus.

If we allow payment for that, the party with the most money will have the most voters.

You really don't get it do you? :lol:

They paid people to register to vote.

You must be thinking about political fundraising.

Tex :shock:

 

[Mike]

When hiring someone to register to vote, they can only be paid for their time.

There can be no bonuses to individuals or groups for the number of people registered.

Acorns tactics are against the law.