Alberta BSE caused by illegal Ontario importation

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Alberta BSE caused by illegal Ontario Importation‏
by mc486 on Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:27 pm

My name is Scott Harrison. In the late 1990s a government of Canada facility I worked at in Burlington, Ontario imported BSE bone meal illegally and transported it out west causing the Alberta BSE. This is no joke. If your contact me I will email you the first 23 pages documenting this and including the transport tags used on the container when the material was first brought illegaly from Ireland to Ontario, Canada. I have much more detailed information. They did this for reasons mentioned in the first two pages of the 23 page document I will send you. I have been trying for several years to contact the farmers of Alberta about this but I did not know how. I only found this forum today. Ridley requested and I sent copies of this information to them several years back. I think they might of used this information to get a better settlement as they seemed very excited by it at the time. I am dying from non-hodgkins lymphoma (terminal cancer) and would like to get this out of the way before I die. I will answer all questions to the best of my ability.

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Re: Alberta BSE caused by illegal Ontario Importation‏
by flounder on Sun Feb 01, 2009 12:54 pm

THE USA AND CANADA BOTH RECIEVED TAINTED UK MBM I.E. GREAVES, LEGALLY TOO. and it seems the USA got about 44 tons (my files), and Canada got about 83 tons. ...TSS


UK EXPORTS OF MBM TO WORLD

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/mb/m11g/tab05.pdf

OTHERS

BEEF AND VEAL

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/mb/m11f/tab08.pdf

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/mb/m11f/tab09.pdf

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/mb/m11f/tab10.pdf

LIVE CATTLE

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/mb/m11f/tab11.pdf

FATS

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/mb/m11g/tab01.pdf

EMBRYOS

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/mb/m11g/tab03.pdf

GELATIN ETC

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/mb/m11g/tab02.pdf

SEMEN

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/mb/m11g/tab04.pdf

MEAT

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/mb/m11g/tab05.pdf

CANADA

http://www.efsa.eu.int/science/efsa_sci ... ex_en1.pdf

USA

http://www.efsa.eu.int/science/efsa_sci ... ex_en1.pdf

MEXICO

http://www.efsa.eu.int/science/efsa_sci ... ex_en1.pdf



Wednesday, April 16, 2008 MBM, greaves, meat offal, live cattle, imports from UK to USA vs Canada "Three of four possible manufacturers supplying a protein supplement likely fed to the animal could have included meat and bone meal (MBM) as an ingredient in its formulation. One of these manufacturers was able to confirm usage of meat and bone meal in supplements and confirm a source of MBM to be one common to previous BSE investigations."

USA AND CANADA IMPORTS OF UK CATTLE BETWEEN 1981 - 1989

USA = 496

CANADA = 198

*add 14 to 198 as last UK import to Canada, 14 in 1990

http://www.inspection.gc.ca/english/sci ... serise.pdf

HERE is another look at all the imports for both the USA and Canada of UK live cattle and greaves exports ;

UK Exports of Live Cattle by Value 1986-96

USA 697 LIVE CATTLE

CANADA 299 LIVE CATTLE

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/mb/m11f/tab11.pdf

UK TABLE of Exports of meal of meat and meat offal; greaves 1979 - 1995

USA 24 TONS

CANADA 83 TONS

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/mb/m12/tab12.pdf

HOWEVER, my files show 44 tons of greaves for USA. ...TSS

Subject: Re: exports from the U.K. of it's MBM to U.S.??? From: [email protected]. Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 14:03:16 +0000 To: [email protected] (Receipt Notification Requested) (Non Receipt Notification Requested)

Terry

Meat and bonemeal is not specifically classified for overseas trade purposes. The nearest equivalent is listed as flours and meals of meat or offals (including tankage), unfit for human consumption; greaves. UK exports of this to the US are listed below:

Country Tonnes

1980 1981 12 1982 1983 1984 10 1985 2 1986 1987 1988 1989 20 1990

Data for exports between 1975 and 1979 are not readily available. These can be obtained (at a charge) from data retailers appointed by HM Customs and Excise: BTSL (Tel: 01372 463121) or Abacus (01245 252222). Best wishes Simon Pearsall Overseas trade statistics Stats (C&F)C

============ END...TSS...2008============

P04.27

Experimental BSE Infection of Non-human Primates: Efficacy of the Oral Route

Holznagel, E1; Yutzy, B1; Deslys, J-P2; Lasmézas, C2; Pocchiari, M3; Ingrosso, L3; Bierke, P4; Schulz-Schaeffer, W5; Motzkus, D6; Hunsmann, G6; Löwer, J1 1Paul-Ehrlich-Institut, Germany; 2Commissariat à l´Energie Atomique, France; 3Instituto Superiore di Sanità, Italy; 4Swedish Institute for Infectious Disease control, Sweden; 5Georg August University, Germany; 6German Primate Center, Germany

Background:

In 2001, a study was initiated in primates to assess the risk for humans to contract BSE through contaminated food. For this purpose, BSE brain was titrated in cynomolgus monkeys.

Aims:

The primary objective is the determination of the minimal infectious dose (MID50) for oral exposure to BSE in a simian model, and, by in doing this, to assess the risk for humans. Secondly, we aimed at examining the course of the disease to identify possible biomarkers.

Methods:

Groups with six monkeys each were orally dosed with lowering amounts of BSE brain: 16g, 5g, 0.5g, 0.05g, and 0.005g. In a second titration study, animals were intracerebrally (i.c.) dosed (50, 5, 0.5, 0.05, and 0.005 mg).

Results:

In an ongoing study, a considerable number of high-dosed macaques already developed simian vCJD upon oral or intracerebral exposure or are at the onset of the clinical phase. However, there are differences in the clinical course between orally and intracerebrally infected animals that may influence the detection of biomarkers.

Conclusions:

Simian vCJD can be easily triggered in cynomolgus monkeys on the oral route using less than 5 g BSE brain homogenate. The difference in the incubation period between 5 g oral and 5 mg i.c. is only 1 year (5 years versus 4 years). However, there are rapid progressors among orally dosed monkeys that develop simian vCJD as fast as intracerebrally inoculated animals.

The work referenced was performed in partial fulfilment of the study "BSE in primates" supported by the EU (QLK1-2002-01096).

http://www.prion2007.com/pdf/Prion%20Bo ... tracts.pdf

look at the table and you'll see that as little as 1 mg (or 0.001 gm) caused 7% (1 of 14) of the cows to come down with BSE;

Risk of oral infection with bovine spongiform encephalopathy agent in primates

Corinne Ida Lasmézas, Emmanuel Comoy, Stephen Hawkins, Christian Herzog, Franck Mouthon, Timm Konold, Frédéric Auvré, Evelyne Correia, Nathalie Lescoutra-Etchegaray, Nicole Salès, Gerald Wells, Paul Brown, Jean-Philippe Deslys Summary The uncertain extent of human exposure to bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE)--which can lead to variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (vCJD)--is compounded by incomplete knowledge about the efficiency of oral infection and the magnitude of any bovine-to-human biological barrier to transmission. We therefore investigated oral transmission of BSE to non-human primates. We gave two macaques a 5 g oral dose of brain homogenate from a BSE-infected cow. One macaque developed vCJD-like neurological disease 60 months after exposure, whereas the other remained free of disease at 76 months. On the basis of these findings and data from other studies, we made a preliminary estimate of the food exposure risk for man, which provides additional assurance that existing public health measures can prevent transmission of BSE to man.

snip...

BSE bovine brain inoculum

100 g 10 g 5 g 1 g 100 mg 10 mg 1 mg 0·1 mg 0·01 mg

Primate (oral route)* 1/2 (50%)

Cattle (oral route)* 10/10 (100%) 7/9 (78%) 7/10 (70%) 3/15 (20%) 1/15 (7%) 1/15 (7%)

RIII mice (ic ip route)* 17/18 (94%) 15/17 (88%) 1/14 (7%)

PrPres biochemical detection

The comparison is made on the basis of calibration of the bovine inoculum used in our study with primates against a bovine brain inoculum with a similar PrPres concentration that was

inoculated into mice and cattle.8 *Data are number of animals positive/number of animals surviving at the time of clinical onset of disease in the first positive animal (%). The accuracy of

bioassays is generally judged to be about plus or minus 1 log. ic ip=intracerebral and intraperitoneal.

Table 1: Comparison of transmission rates in primates and cattle infected orally with similar BSE brain inocula

Published online January 27, 2005

http://www.thelancet.com/journal/journal.isa

It is clear that the designing scientists must

also have shared Mr Bradley's surprise at the results because all the dose

levels right down to 1 gram triggered infection.

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/ws/s145d.pdf

6. It also appears to me that Mr Bradley's answer (that it would take less than say 100 grams) was probably given with the benefit of hindsight; particularly if one considers that later in the same answer Mr Bradley expresses his surprise that it could take as little of 1 gram of brain to cause BSE by the oral route within the same species. This information did not become available until the "attack rate"

experiment had been completed in 1995/96. This was a titration experiment designed to ascertain the infective dose. A range of dosages was used to ensure that the actual result was within both a lower and an upper limit within the study and the designing scientists would not have expected all the dose levels to trigger infection. The dose ranges chosen by the most informed scientists at that time ranged from 1 gram to three times one hundred grams. It is clear that the designing scientists must have also shared Mr Bradley's surprise at the results because all the dose levels right down to 1 gram triggered infection.

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/ws/s147f.pdf



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Re: Alberta BSE caused by illegal Ontario Importation‏
by mc486 on Sun Feb 01, 2009 3:25 pm

The material the people from the Canadian government facility illegally imported had come from cows that had been rendered in Ireland the mid 1990s. I would imagine all of the bone meal had high levels BSE in it by that time from the UK. The bone meal you are showing was from the 1980s when BSE had just begun. Even then in Canada there were severe restrictions on the importation of animal products from the UK at that time. These people who did this went around normal importation using air lugage as described in the 23 page document.

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Re: Alberta BSE caused by illegal Ontario Importation‏
by Bez+ on Sun Feb 01, 2009 3:47 pm

I think there is a strong chance you are blowing smoke

There are too many ways to take this public if it has any credibility - and if you had any yourself you would have done it long ago

At least 50 ways come to mind right now - smells too fishy to me.

As for flounder - he loves to put out so much info we could drown in it - making his credibility tough to take.

Put up or shut up - secrecy gets you no where on this board

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Re: Alberta BSE caused by illegal Ontario Importation‏
by mc486 on Sun Feb 01, 2009 5:28 pm

The letters/emails in the 23 page show that I was sending out this information years before BSE surfaced in Alberta. If you look at the first page of the 23 page document you would see that I sent a copy to Cam Daniels, Vice President, Canada Beef Export Federation in April 2005. As his boss the President of Canada Beef Export Federation was away in the States (Because of this BSE situation) there was knothing he could do. Large newpapers get their info off of news feeds like Reuters and the smaller newspapers like the ones I contacted in Provost and Winnipeg a number of years back said they did not have the resouces to cover such a story. Don't believe me contact the local newpaper in Provost, Alberta and ask them if I Scott Harrison did not contact them in 2005 about this story. They tell you they don't have the resources. Every one thinks that a person with a picture and a story can run to the papers and it will be on the front page the next day. Try it. It doesnt work that way. Theres aways liability or costs involved that make printing a story like this one very hard. I had an occupational disease called Weils disease from working at a water treatment plant in 1999 that caused severe systemic damages that to this day I have not been compensated for. 10 years without a salery combined with the above effects made it hard to get anything out. I have hard evidence of what I say. I live in Ontario were people dont even know what BSE is and for the most part they are to busy to do anything. I apologise for this.

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Re: Alberta BSE caused by illegal Ontario Importation‏
by hillsdown on Sun Feb 01, 2009 8:07 pm

Hi Scott,

Start a blog and publish all of your data on there , if it is believable then the readers will follow..

Let us know the link to the blog and we can go from there.

Sorry about your illness Scott and I do hope if you have valid data that we can get to the bottom of this as it is very interesting as to why Alberta has become the BSE "cluster" area especially for Holsteins.HD

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Re: Alberta BSE caused by illegal Ontario Importation‏
by AngusLimoX on Sun Feb 01, 2009 8:14 pm

mc486 wrote:
I did in fact try to go public with this and the documents I have and have sent out show some of this. Large newpapers get their info off of news feeds like Reuters and the smaller newspapers like the ones I contacted in Provost and Winnipeg a number of years back said they did not have the resouces to cover such a story. Don't believe me contact the local newpaper in Provost, Alberta and ask them if I Scott Harrison did not contact them in 2005 about this story. They tell you they don't have the resources. Every one thinks that a person with a picture and a story can run to the papers and it will be on the front page the next day. Try it. It doesnt work that way. Theres aways liability or costs involved that make printing a story like this one very hard. I had an occupational disease called Weils disease from working at a water treatment plant in 1999 that caused severe systemic damages that to this day I have not been compensated for. 10 years without a salery combined with the above effects made it hard to get anything out. I have hard evidence of what I say. I live in Ontario were people dont even know what BSE is and for the most part they are to busy to do anything. I apologise for this.

Regards,

S. Harrison

Where in Ontario do you live? Thousands of beef farmers here know what BSE is and would love to chat with you. Face to face. ( Surgical masks recommended though in your case ).

Good luck with terminal cancer. Alberta sent that to Ontario in return for BSE.People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.AngusLimoX
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Re: Alberta BSE caused by illegal Ontario Importation‏
by mc486 on Sun Feb 01, 2009 8:35 pm

I am presently transfering the information I have to a retired police officer who has begun to post the information on an Albertan Cattlemans site. He will review the information in a police investigative way. This I believe will be for the good of all. In addition an Albertan veternarian is also reviewing the information. I think you might have the wrong impression. At the time when these people imported this BSE bone meal I did not know what it was or why they did this. This is made clearer in the 23 page document. It was not until over a year later when I was told by a electrical contractor from this place I had formerly worked at what these people had done. I believed at the time that either nothing would happen or that if this BSE did surface in the West the few animals involved would have just been buried and no one would hear of it. To this day I do not understand why this did not occur. I tried to contact the Minister of the Enviroment at the time, but the only response from them was to do nothing. This was years before the BSE in Alberta surfaced. This is included in the 23 page document. I am not trying to defend my actions in so much as I know what these people did is a treasonable offence. People always say that here in Canada we do not have the death penalty. This is for murder. I have been told that for treason the army takes you out to the country and shoots you.
I sent a copy of this information to Steve Webster in 2006. Do you know who he is. He was the guy from Ontario who went alone to Parliment Hill to try and fight for the rights of Canadian Cattlemen in regards to BSE. He took the information I gave him and went on 94.5FM and presented it on a sunday night show. He told me that he had a great response and had to stay 3 hours after the show talking to people about this. The response was so great that he was asked to come back the following week and continue. When he did the station management told him that the government had been in touch with them and he would not be allowed to continue at the station with this story. I wonder why?

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Re: Alberta BSE caused by illegal Ontario Importation‏
by AngusLimoX on Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:57 pm

I detect a tennesse twang

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Re: Alberta BSE caused by illegal Ontario Importation‏
by rockridgecattle on Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:53 pm

NOT A BUNCH OF HOGWASH.
there is actually a case with Ridley against the Canadian gov knowingly importing BSE contaminated bone meal and transporting it to Alberta.
there is a meeting in our area and in several other areas about this. Ridley has filed a claim, spent near 600 million or something to that effect, and the lawyers are not only going after for the farmer and financial loss but emotional as well. This meeting on the 26th in our area is to update us on what is happening. Looks like the gov' might settle out of court....but that could change.
There is a web site but in my tired state i forgot the name. I will get back to you on that next week

and i will post the findings of the meetingwww.honeyshack.ca
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Re: Alberta BSE caused by illegal Ontario Importation‏
by AngusLimoX on Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:24 pm

rockridgecattle wrote:
NOT A BUNCH OF HOGWASH.
there is actually a case with Ridley against the Canadian gov knowingly importing BSE contaminated bone meal and transporting it to Alberta.
there is a meeting in our area and in several other areas about this. Ridley has filed a claim, spent near 600 million or something to that effect, and the lawyers are not only going after for the farmer and financial loss but emotional as well. This meeting on the 26th in our area is to update us on what is happening. Looks like the gov' might settle out of court....but that could change.
There is a web site but in my tired state i forgot the name. I will get back to you on that next week

and i will post the findings of the meeting

Can't wait to get the scoop.

"Ridley" has settled.

Govt has lost it's appeal to not have the case heard.

But you fill us in.

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Alberta BSE caused by illegal Ontario Importation‏
by mc486 on Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:37 pm

The above file I mentioned is a condensed document of how and why a Government of Canada facility in Burlington, Ontario caused the Albertan BSE through an illegal importation of BSE/bone meal from Ireland in 1998. This was done purposely by the people there at this government of Canada facility. The first two pages explain why they did this, along with 20 or so pages that back it up. I have several hundred more pages that are much more revealing as to this situation. We are working with the heads of several beef boards in Alberta and their veterinary science people to bring this to light. Also a company called BSE Solutions Inc. in Alberta has a backup hard drive from 1998 from this Government of Canada facility from which I gave them and they are currently extracting information to help in this investigation.

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Re: Alberta BSE caused by illegal Ontario Importation‏
by mc486 on Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:29 am

I am continuing to bring the information I have forth about how and why a company working out of a Government of Canada facility in Burlington, Ontario (WTI) illegally brought BSE/bone meal from Ireland in 1998 to cause the Alberta BSE occurances. I am currently working with a Alberta company -BSE prion solutions Inc. out of Edmonton to bring all of the information forward. We have a lot of evidence from the time of this illegal importation(1998) in the form of actual documentation(100's of pages), WTI's backup hardrive from 1998, pictures, testomony, related events, the tag off of the bag with the BSE/bone meal in it as well as a small sample of this material. The reason for these WTI people to do this is listed in the 23 page report I mentioned at the begining of this post. Just email me for a copy.


More proof that this BSE/bone meal imported by WTI out of Burlington, Ontario from Ireland caused the Alberta BSE.


You might of seen this already:

http://www.aaaf.ab.ca/index.php?option= ... &Itemid=28


This link to the AAAF in Alberta also states that:

"the only risk factor for the spread of BSE is through feeding cattle meat and bone meal (MBM) derived from BSE-infected cattle. BSE prions are resistant to normal inactivation procedures, such as disinfectants and heat. BSE prions are not completely destroyed by the rendering process."

This to me says that BSE/bone meal from the UK (as is the bone meal imported to WTI in Burlington, Ontario from Ireland in 1998) is the only causative agent for BSE in cattle.

It is also stated that:

"Why don't we test all cattle for BSE?
OIE guidelines are based on science and recommend BSE surveillance be targeted to those groups of cattle most likely to test positive. It takes between two and eight years following exposure to BSE before cattle develop clinical disease. In the United Kingdom, of 180,000 cattle found to be positive for BSE, only 0.05% were 30 months of age or less and 0.006% were 24 months of age or less. Over 80% of cattle slaughtered in Alberta are less than 18 to 22 months of age and are, therefore, extremely unlikely to test positive."

This to me says that the time frame for the Alberta cattle to get BSE from Herb Campbell/Jim Woods illegal importation/exposure is correct. Also since thousands of cattle were tested and only 15 came up positive, how could this be? It is because the 20-30 Kg of BSE/bone meal brought by Herb Campbell to infect the Alberta herds can only cause a limited number of BSE/infected cattle events.

One thing I must mention. In 2005 I contacted Steve Webster as previously mentioned about this BSE situation. He as I mentioned had talked with a visiting Russian Veterinary Scientist about my documentation. The Russian Veterinary Scientist absolutely agreed that the type of exposure caused by Herb Campbell/Jim Wood and described in my documentation would cause this Alberta BSE.

Ontario lawyer Cammeron Pallette is representing Mr. Saurer and his claim against the Canadian Government for BSE damages to the Canadian Cattle Industry. Cammeron Pallette states in one of his online legal statements that as little as 1 mg of BSE/prion material would cause clinical BSE in a cow. If the 20-30 Kg of BSE/bone meal illegally imported by Herb Campbell from Ireland in 1998 had even a low part per million concentration of BSE/prions it would easily have caused all of the Alberta BSE/cattle events.

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Re: Alberta BSE caused by illegal Ontario Importation‏
by flounder on Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:50 pm

mc486 wrote:
I am continuing to bring the information I have forth about how and why a company working out of a Government of Canada facility in Burlington, Ontario (WTI) illegally brought BSE/bone meal from Ireland in 1998 to cause the Alberta BSE occurances. I am currently working with a Alberta company -BSE prion solutions Inc. out of Edmonton to bring all of the information forward. We have a lot of evidence from the time of this illegal importation(1998) in the form of actual documentation(100's of pages), WTI's backup hardrive from 1998, pictures, testomony, related events, the tag off of the bag with the BSE/bone meal in it as well as a small sample of this material. The reason for these WTI people to do this is listed in the 23 page report I mentioned at the begining of this post. Just email me for a copy.


More proof that this BSE/bone meal imported by WTI out of Burlington, Ontario from Ireland caused the Alberta BSE.


You might of seen this already:

http://www.aaaf.ab.ca/index.php?option= ... &Itemid=28


This link to the AAAF in Alberta also states that:

"the only risk factor for the spread of BSE is through feeding cattle meat and bone meal (MBM) derived from BSE-infected cattle. BSE prions are resistant to normal inactivation procedures, such as disinfectants and heat. BSE prions are not completely destroyed by the rendering process."

This to me says that BSE/bone meal from the UK (as is the bone meal imported to WTI in Burlington, Ontario from Ireland in 1998) is the only causative agent for BSE in cattle.

It is also stated that:

"Why don't we test all cattle for BSE?
OIE guidelines are based on science and recommend BSE surveillance be targeted to those groups of cattle most likely to test positive. It takes between two and eight years following exposure to BSE before cattle develop clinical disease. In the United Kingdom, of 180,000 cattle found to be positive for BSE, only 0.05% were 30 months of age or less and 0.006% were 24 months of age or less. Over 80% of cattle slaughtered in Alberta are less than 18 to 22 months of age and are, therefore, extremely unlikely to test positive."

This to me says that the time frame for the Alberta cattle to get BSE from Herb Campbell/Jim Woods illegal importation/exposure is correct. Also since thousands of cattle were tested and only 15 came up positive, how could this be? It is because the 20-30 Kg of BSE/bone meal brought by Herb Campbell to infect the Alberta herds can only cause a limited number of BSE/infected cattle events.

One thing I must mention. In 2005 I contacted Steve Webster as previously mentioned about this BSE situation. He as I mentioned had talked with a visiting Russian Veterinary Scientist about my documentation. The Russian Veterinary Scientist absolutely agreed that the type of exposure caused by Herb Campbell/Jim Wood and described in my documentation would cause this Alberta BSE.

Ontario lawyer Cammeron Pallette is representing Mr. Saurer and his claim against the Canadian Government for BSE damages to the Canadian Cattle Industry. Cammeron Pallette states in one of his online legal statements that as little as 1 mg of BSE/prion material would cause clinical BSE in a cow. If the 20-30 Kg of BSE/bone meal illegally imported by Herb Campbell from Ireland in 1998 had even a low part per million concentration of BSE/prions it would easily have caused all of the Alberta BSE/cattle events.

Regards,

S.R. Harrison



124. HMQ has admitted that the most likely original source of BSE in Canada was one or more of the 80 imported cattle that were rendered and entered the animal food chain.
The cow that was infected with BSE and rendered in 1996, whose MBM was included in Feed-Rite 18% Calf Starter w/ DCX, most likely contracted BSE from eating feed contaminated with MBM from one of these 80 cattle.


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Re: Alberta BSE caused by illegal Ontario Importation‏
by mc486 on Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:40 pm

Some people say that you flounder tend to go on with to much. There wrong. Its important for everyone to see all sides of an argument. I know you are a great friend to all Cattle Ranchers everywhere. I've looked at the documentation you have mentioned. There claim centers around the Canadian government letting 80 cattle into Canada from the UK somewhere between 1986 and 1989 making them the culprit. The Canadian government has always denied this and there is no record of this in government records in a manifest/docket or other record which there would most certainly be if this were the case. In 1985 I worked at a refractory company in Hamilton, Ontario whose parent company out of Shefield, England sent a large lab furnace to us made out of steel, ceramic fibre with tugston carbide electrodes - "no cattle parts". It took months to get this furnace through Canada customs because of a new cattle disease they were afraid would get into Canada- Mad Cow Disease. If our furnace could not get into Canada because of Mad Cow Disease in late 1985 early 1986 how could 80 cattle just waltz in. As my boss Tony who was from Shefield would say "not bloody likely". So how would these 80 cattle of gotten in? Where is the testing to show that some of them had Mad Cow Disease? No evidence - no winning claim. A vetinary scientist from the USDA told me that all of the BSE/bone meal we are claiming caused the Aberta BSE from the UK would have high levels of BSE causing prions in it. This is because of the large amount of infected cows at that time and the homoginizing process used in the production of bone meal in the UK.

The above posted explaination for the Alberta BSE also contains too many 'might have caused this BSE' and 'maybe if this had occured's. This is what the Federal government here in Canada wants so they can easily dismiss this claim in 4 years. This is one of many problems I have with these "theories". The time frame for these events is far beyond the known average of a 5 year time to surface(about double). I have been told that if the above were true it would of caused at least hundred's of cases of BSE by the early 1990's and thousands of cases several years latter. You have to remember that something obviously did cause these 17 Alberta BSE cases. 20-30 kg of BSE contaminated bone meal illegally imported from the UK in the late 1990's as we have shown in the 23 document would do exactly this. If you did see everything we have you will know this:


I guess this is why an knowledgeable agro journalist from Winnipeg could say this to me after I sent him a copy of the 23 page document. "This BSE occurs only in the UK. Alberta is on the opposite end of the planet. Why did this not occur at points in between? It's more than obvious that someone brought BSE infected material(bone meal) here to Canada and purposely caused this Alberta BSE!"

In addition to this a french bio-technical company contacted me 2 years ago. A Quebec lawyer whom I had contacted forwarded a copy of the 23 page document to them. They said that they knew that the Alberta BSE was obviously the product of a single purposeful event/exposure most likely caused by the introduction of BSE infected bone meal to Alberta's herds. They said that if you plotted Alberta BSE events vs. time you would come up with half a normal distribution- exactly what you would expect from a single exposure/event. They went on to say that the people who have tried to say that there was 2 individually occurring situations here that caused the Alberta BSE were just trying to find a possible thought extremely unlikely way of explaining away this situation. They said why would these two BSE causing events only have occurred in Alberta and no where else? My engineer friend said it's like 'Occam's Razor' which states the simple explanation is always correct as follows:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor



Also, the office of the Minister of Agriculture has contacted me just lately:

I was just contacted by the office of Gerry Ritz, PC, MP (I guess the current Canadian Minister of Agriculture). They had an older copy of the 23 page document forwarded to them by someone(Ontario Ministry of the Attorney General?). I guess that since they picked up some of this BSE/bone meal in 1998 and people are beginning to become aware of this they are wondering about their liability for not really taking the time to properly investigate this BSE situation. I told them they can buy the book when it comes out. I really don't like taking to these government people but did mention to them that I intend to continue to work with yourself and your company BSE solutions Inc in Alberta to resolve this situation.

Mr. Arnold of BSE solutions Inc is very much on yourside. You should support him he is a good man:


Hi Scott, I wish to apologise for not getting back to you - I am visiting family and friends in England for a while and will return to Canada later in August. As soon as I do return, I will let you know that I am back. I have to thank you for your patience in this matter and believe me when say, I have all intentions to go forward with this and to work closely with you to let the world know what has happened in Canada regarding the BSE outbreak. Thanks again Scott.

Ron.

Remember what we are doing will get the Alberta Farmers and our friends in the US who have sustained losses from this BSE situation compensation for the damages that these Ontario/former government of Canada bastards have caused you.
This can only help you.

Regards,

S.R. Harrison

 

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Re: Alberta BSE caused by illegal Ontario Importation‏
by Alberta farmer on Thu Sep 03, 2009 5:31 am

I suspect the Canadian government will delay,delay,delay! They will not be able to shirk their responsibility forever. I believe the feds have lost their final appeal to get Mr. Pallettes class action suit dismissed? I believe both parties are now required to put up the evidence they have to each other?
Mr. Ritz should be well aware of the gross negligence by federal officials and I suspect with an election coming on he might be willing to cut a deal! Try to blame it all on thoses nasty liberals. All of a sudden he is interested in the plight of Canadian farmers after 3 years of doing nothing but cracking offensive jokes when people died of listerosis...give me a break!
Thank you for the work you are doing and I'll look forward to reading your book.Alberta farmer
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Re: Alberta BSE caused by illegal Ontario Importation‏
by mc486 on Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:21 pm

Timeline Evidence

Just to update you on some of the Albertan BSE facts that have been passed my way that agree that this Albertan BSE situation was caused by the illegal Ontario BSE/bone meal importation/exposure by Herb Campbell/Jim Woods from Ireland to Canada in 1998.

You might of seen this already:

http://www.aaaf.ab.ca/index.php?option= ... &Itemid=28


This link to the AAAF in Alberta also states that:

"the only risk factor for the spread of BSE is through feeding cattle meat and bone meal (MBM) derived from BSE-infected cattle. BSE prions are resistant to normal inactivation procedures, such as disinfectants and heat. BSE prions are not completely destroyed by the rendering process."

This to me says that BSE/bone meal from the UK (as is the bone meal imported to WTI in Burlington, Ontario from Ireland in 1998) is the only probable causative agent for the Albertan BSE.

It is also stated that:

"Why don't we test all cattle for BSE?
OIE guidelines are based on science and recommend BSE surveillance be targeted to those groups of cattle most likely to test positive. It takes between two and eight years following exposure to BSE before cattle develop clinical disease. In the United Kingdom, of 180,000 cattle found to be positive for BSE, only 0.05% were 30 months of age or less and 0.006% were 24 months of age or less. Over 80% of cattle slaughtered in Alberta are less than 18 to 22 months of age and are, therefore, extremely unlikely to test positive."

This to me says that the time frame for the Alberta cattle to get BSE from Herb Campbell/Jim Woods illegal importation/exposure is correct.


Several days ago I read part of a government report(dated 2006) stating that the BSE agent causing the Alberta BSE would have to have been introduced at least 6 years ago(2000). In the following web page it is stated by the RCALF people that 10 of the 17 BSE infected were born after March 1, 1999:

http://www.cattlenetwork.com/R-CALF-Sub ... oid=494440

This means that the BSE causing agent had to be present after March 1999. This coincides with Herb Campbell/Jim Woods late 1998 BSE causing event which is exactly what you would expect. Remember that this Jim Wood took the BSE/bone meal out to Western Canada in late fall of 1998. This was documented on the last page of the 23 page document. It seems a number of sources are triangulating on our BSE/bone meal situation, proving it to be true. As a result of statements/facts like the above web page as well as numerous other fallacies built into their arguments the assertions by the Canadian government/BSE lawyers as to the cause of Alberta's BSE have been shown to not only be extremely unlikely, but almost impossible. This is what they would want to make the court preceding go well for the government of Canada. On the other hand our facts will show that Herb Campbell/Jim Woods Alberta BSE causing event is the only remaining credible explanation. I believe that eventually it will be shown through dynamic modeling/ simulations that if Herb Campbell/Jim Woods BSE causing event did not cause the Alberta BSE then someone/group would have to have done the exact same thing, at the same time, with the same material, using the same methods.


In the Begining

There are a number of things that I must clarify. The first time I discovered what this BSE/bone meal was Herb Campbell did not just come out and tell me. This is obvious from the safety sheet from the project included in the 23 page document. He had very much wanted to keep it a secret from me. When our new parent company Connor Pacific Environmental bailed us out of chapter 11 foreclosure and took over they wanted all of us to help by imputing our individual technologies we had worked on into the pot. The president, Bob Novak of Connor Pacific Environmental said to us that we were were on the side of the angels, we had jobs doing the right thing with environmental treatment technologies. Firery the angels would fall. We had a meeting with Connor Pacific Environmental in which this Herb Campbell came out and attempted to speak for himself. He said to the president Bob Novak of Connor Pacific Environmental that now that he was on the Connor Pacific payroll he might do work for one week a year for Connor, the rest of the time he would do anything he dam well pleased. He believed like many of these former Canadian government WTI staff that he had an upper hand in this situation. Having worked on several profitable membrane systems projects I asked if I could continue working with Connor to this end. This outraged people like Herb Campbell who was the head of the municipal/human waste dept as his abilities were of no commercial value. I was asked to attend a membrane systems meeting as this was my specialty by Greg Thompson. He was WTI's divisions new CEO put in place by Connor Pacific for the 867 Lakeshore Rd., Burlington, Ontario location(Wastewater Technology Centre/CCIW facility). Herb Campbell attended these meetings and was infuriated as he knew little about membrane/systems technology. He realized that our new parent company wanted emerging environmental technologies like membrane systems that would be of some value. What he had to offer was worthless to Connor Pacific. It was at this point that Herb Campbell came out with the truth and stated that the bone meal we had been conducting tests on was actually BSE/bone meal. He realized that I knew there was no honest reason for him to have brought this BSE/bone meal here. He tried to change his story then by stating that it was from a source that did not include the cows brain or spinal column(non-specified risk) as you can see from the 3rd and 4th pages of the 23 page document. This 'non-specified risk' was obviously a lie as shown here:

On the 4th page of the 23 page document Herb Campbell attempts to answer himself as to the specified risk of this BSE/bone meal material. He pretends the answer is from 'Pearse' the man from Ireland who put the two large duffle bags of BSE/bone meal on the plane to Canada. I have actual emails from this 'Pearse' and they look nothing like what Herb Campbell presents here. A 'specified risk' bone meal is by Herb Campbells very definition any bone meal made including the brain or spinal column of the cow. So what Herb Campbell is trying to state here is that the bone meal we were testing is some kind of a special type, made from ruminants not including the brain or spinal column of Irish BSE infected cows. This would make the testing we had to perform on this BSE/bone meal useless as you will see next.

The testing of this BSE/bone meal was to be conducted using a OFS bench reactor at WTI (reverse pyrolosis machine). This machine was used in the past to produce oil from wastewater sludge by converting its protein content to oil as mentioned by this Herb Campbell in a more detailed paper of his we have. As you know the BSE agent(prions) in the bone meal act on the protein of the brain and spinal column of the BSE infected cattle. This is by far the main source of protein in bone meal. The idea here is obviously to convert the BSE/prion infected bone meal using the OFS bench reactor to a harmless petroleum like oil. I believe this was the research 'Pearse' was interested in as such a process might be used to get rid of large stockpiles of BSE infected bone meal in the UK as mentioned here:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/beef- ... 86694.html

This was the ruse/hook Herb Campbell used to get Pearse to put the two large duffle bags of BSE/bone meal on the plane from Ireland to Canada. Why would Pearse/Herb Campbell go to all of the trouble to bring this bone meal here to have a representative sample and then make it not representative by using a bone meal that was from a source that does not include the brain or spinal column of the cow(non-specified risk). The test results would be useless. The truth here is obvious. This BSE/bone meal we had was just from common stock put aside and stockpiled after it was realized that BSE was being spread by feeding this bone meal to cattle.

Why would Herb Campbell make up a story trying to make out as if this bone meal was not a specified risk? On page 3 it is mentioned that Marilyn Coleman from the Canadian Food Inspection Agency stated that the entire animal is considered to be infected. If you look at the papers from Dr M. Soots of the Canadian Food Inspection Agency the crime of importing bone meal from the UK is not for a specified risk group of bone meal but for all bone meal. So this does not get Herb Campbell off the hook. The probability of myself or others contracting the human form of BSE from this bone meal was then as it is now thought to be almost impossible so this is not what Herb Campbell is trying to avoid. It to me seems obvious that Herb Campbell wanted me to believe that the bone meal we had tested was not capable of transmitting BSE to cattle as he was going to use this BSE/bone meal for this precise reason. When the BSE occurred in Alberta in the future Herb Campbell thought there would therefore be no way of my making this connection.

When the electrical contractor from WTI told me what these people had done with BSE/bone meal I figured out myself what Jim Wood had exactly done. Jim wood picked up/purchased drums of cattle feed supplement(probably from Ridley) in Winnipeg and added the BSE/bone meal to them and then returned/dropped them off at a Feedrite or like supply store in Alberta. Jim Wood did this by driving a Green Suburban truck with a large open fire engine red trailer with a built in ramp behind it out west in the fall of 1998. This was strange as this Jim Wood guy virtually never left his office and saw field work as being below him. The official/main reason for him making this field trip was so he could collect wastewater samples from the sewage treatment plants of the major cities as far west as Calgary. As shown in the last page of the 23 page document Jim Wood traveled through Winnipeg in the fall of 1998. As you probably know Ridley is based in Winnipeg and has a 6 million dollar fine against it in regard to some responsibility for the Alberta BSE. As the fact that Ridley never imported BSE/ infected materials, it's responsibility was limited. Ridley is the only company implicated. If you wanted to find more testimony as to the dates Jim Wood was at a particular city such as Winnipeg or Calgary all you would have to do is go to the municipal water department of the individual city and you could likely get a copy of the WTI report from this testing. Don't mention what you really want it for or they probably won't give it to you.

In the months that followed after the electrical contractor from WTI had told me what these people had done with the BSE/bone meal I became worried that anything that might rise from this situation might come back on myself. I then began sending out emails to show that I had done my due diligence regarding the BSE/bone meal. Many of these emails are included in the attachments I have sent you. In the 23 page document it is mentioned in an email to the Minister of the Environment that the BSE/bone meal first showed up on or about February 1997. I believed this because the guy who used to run the OFS bench test reactor(Gary Silmesky) performed runs on this date and I thought he might of worked with this BSE/bone meal. I have since found that this Gary Silmesky conducted runs on other material. So this date of February 1997 should be revised to May 1998 for when the BSE/ bone meal first showed up at WTI. This is corroborated by the dates on other documentation and emails in the 23 page document.



Regards,

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Re: Alberta BSE caused by illegal Ontario Importation‏
by mc486 on Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:52 pm

Hi Everyone,


I thought it best that I clarify the WTI situation leading up to their illegal importation of the BSE/Bone meal. In the early 1990s when I first worked at WTI my boss and I worked almost exclusively on oil/water projects in Alberta. These projects were quite lucrative and usually involved constructing membrane test units, transporting the units to Alberta(for work at NORCEN Petroleum at Provost and Amico at Bonnyville, Alberta) and conducting tests that usually went on for months. She was a very enigmatic person who often worked 20 hour days getting proposals ready, going to the site to conduct tests, and then writing up 100 page reports on the results. She was vey good at getting the money needed to sustain our division. She would make a proposal in Calgary (sometimes I went with her) to the five main oil companies and then they seeing her high level of professionalism and attention to emerging oil/water separation technologies would each kick in about 5K each. The government of Canada would then back this up with half a million that would float our division. Unfortunately she left in 1995 but she had set enough work up to keep us going for the next couple of years. She was clearly an economic dynamo to our division. After she left, this funny guy took over her job. Even though she had set up a road of membrane testing for the Alberta oil industry that could of gone on for years for the company this guy chose to abandon this and attempt to apply totally impractical and unworkable technologies to oil water separation for the Alberta oil industry. I guess this guy believed that if he made something complicated and expensive no one would be able to figure out what he was doing and just applaud him. This was his legacy. Unfortunately the Alberta Oil Gas companies technology reps who fronted the research were not impressed and wanted nothing to do with him. By 1998 this guy had joined forces with the municipal division of the company(Herb Campbell headed this division). These people were determined to not allow myself or others previously associated with the Alberta oil sands project to continue. As they saw it this was Canadian government funding and therefore only they, the former government employees were entitled to it! That was OK with me as our new parent company Connor Pacific wanted me to work solely for them and had the funding to do it. I guess this whole situation came to a head when the large amount of funding these people expected to get from the Alberta Oil Sands Project fell through. This Herb Campbell traveled to Calgary thinking this this guy would meet him there with a winning proposal to the Alberta Oil company technology reps. to get funding. Apparently this guy didn't even show up for the meeting. Some people said he was up all night drinking. Others said that knowing the Alberta Oil company technology reps. hated him and would humiliate him at the meeting, this guy chose not to go.

Anyways the funding from the Alberta Oil companies was lost. Of course, these former government employees thought they had a right to be mad. Other projects they had worked on had also had fallen through. They now would not be able to sustain their positions. I can remember a couple of months in which all they talked about was how wrong and bad Alberta was. I remember bringing up the subject of a former employee in our division, who had left several years before. He was from Burlington, Ontario. Somehow the conversation got twisted around by these people to him being from Alberta and that he must therefore be an idiot. It was at this point that this BSE/Bone meal showed up. These former government people really did believe they had a right to be mad at Alberta. I guess this is were all Terrorism comes from. People who believe they have been wronged and that they would get even regardless of how many innocent lives they destroy.

One thing I probably mentioned before is the fact that these WTI people closely associated themselves with the Ontario government people and saw them as there peers. They always talked about how the Ontario government was being cut back because of Mike Harris(our then Premiere) having to follow Premiere Kliens of Alberta actions to reduce deficit spending. This was so to keep our bond ratings in Ontario in a sensible range to reduce the high interest on our high provincial debt. The WTI people and their Ontario government friends both saw this as effecting their life blood and as being Premiere Kliens and the people who elected him fault for causing this problem for them.Last edited by mc486 on Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:13 am, edited 11 times in total. mc486
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Re: Alberta BSE caused by illegal Ontario Importation‏
by mc486 on Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:22 pm

Hi Everyone,

I'm Sorry, I forgot to mention that since these people(Herb Campbell/Jim Wood) conducted this act of Bioterrorism out of a Government of Canada Facility in Ontario this is true. The Canadian Government will have to pay for the losses sustained by Albertan/Canadian Cattle farmers as well as the losses to the American domestic and foriegn markets resulting from this deliberate act of Agro-terrorism. These costs are obviously in the tens of billions.

Regards,

S.R. Harrison

 

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Re: Alberta BSE caused by illegal Ontario Importation‏
by mc486 on Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:16 pm

Hi Everyone, I guess this article really says it all:

http://www.canadafreepress.com/2005/cover030705.htm

Its about Canadas mad cow mystery and that no one really has figured out what caused it. The reason the government did'nt really try is because they all ready knew what caused this Alberta BSE. I had contacted them and told them. This was well documented, even in the 23 page report. A quote from the article:

"What we don't know is why no one--including the Canadian government–seems to be looking into how BSE cows keep cropping up on Canadian soil, coincidental to timelines that happen to be crucial."


The BSE information/documentation we have fits exactly what would cause the Albertan BSE situation as this is what caused it. None of the situations that the Canadian government describes as "could have caused" would have a chance of causing the Alberta BSE situation. This is to save them the expense (billions) of paying this claim in three years when it finally goes to court.

Regards,

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Re: Alberta BSE caused by illegal Ontario Importation‏
by mc486 on Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:18 am

Hi Everyone,

My name is Scott Harrison. I've tried to upload the mentioned files below but they still will not go; I only get - "Could not upload attachment to ./files/9330_5a2d8438ca8e9b1d282bff47ebe7cc46." If you want copies of the attachments just leave a message at my cattletoday email box here with your email address and I will send them to you.

In the late 1990s a government of Canada facility I worked at in Burlington, Ontario imported BSE/bone meal illegally and transported it out west to intentionally cause the Alberta BSE. The first attached file above is a 23 page document that includes a copy of the transport tag used on the container when the material was first brought illegally from Ireland to Ontario, Canada. They did this for reasons mentioned in the first two pages of the 23 page document. If you look at the first page of the second above file you can see that 3 years before this BSE situation surfaced in Alberta I mention that this illegally imported BSE/bone meal had the potential to destroy the Canadian Beef Industry. This actually happened three years latter after the BSE surfaced in Alberta. In this email you can see that the reporter was interested in knowing what purpose did these these people intend to use this BSE/bone meal for. I had been told at the time that they had taken it out west to Alberta to cause BSE there. I believed that either nothing would happen or if it did the cattle involved would just be destroyed. I was wrong. This is why I kept all of the documentation surrounding this situation. We have detailed write-ups along with the documentation to back them up for virtually all the events surrounding this situation. This BSE/bone meal from the UK is the only material which could cause the Albertan BSE situation. The quantity described(20-30 Kg) in the letters from the time(2000) is what would be required to cause the number(17) of cases in the Albertan herds. The required time for this BSE/bone meal to be present to cause the Albertan/BSE is exactly what is mentioned in our documentation from the time(1998) and is described in detail in previous posts.

These people from this Government of Canada facility located in Burlington, Ontario intentionally did this. This destroyed a way of life for over 135,000 Albertan/Canadian Cattle Farming families. As you probally know tens of thousands lost everything. Even though the Albertan BSE only caused disease in a total of 17 cattle it resulted in tens of billions in losses and damage to the Albertan/Canadian Cattle farmers. We are currently working with an Albertan company BSE Prion Solutions Inc. out of Edmonton as well as cattle groups from Alberta to help with this situation. In addition we have the book we are putting together - "An Open Season" which describes in detail all of the events (with documentation to back them up) surrounding the cause of this Albertan BSE situation.

Regards,

S.R. Harrison

 

[Big Muddy rancher]

Contact, Cameron Pallett Partnership

1497 Randor Drive,

Mississauga, ON L5J 3C6
905-822-9111

Or find a post Of Randy Kaiser on here and E mail your info to him and ask him to get it to Cameron Pallett. He is the lawyer taking this to trial it will do anybody any good he is the person that can use it.

Good Luck.

 

[Kato]

Wasn't this all posted a few years ago? It sure looks familiar.....

 

[Big Muddy rancher]

Wasn't this all posted a few years ago? It sure looks familiar.....

Your right. OT brought it over from Cattle today and did a investigation on it. :roll: :roll: :roll:

After I posted it did seem familiar so i did a "search' on the title of the thread.

 

[mc486]

They have already been contacted. Randy K was forwarded the info by a vetinary sciece person/Albertan Cattle board member- Dr. Gary Etherington. Oldtimer didnt reallyeven try to investigate. Ron Arnold of BSE solutions Inc. out of Edmonton, Alberta has a lot of the actual documentation along with the companies responsible back up hard drive from 1998-When this event occured. We are current5ly working with Riley Scott from Dommina Law out of Omaha ,Nebraska. Anyone who wants a copy of the first 25 pages to see it's validity can contact me at [email protected].

Regards,

S.R. Harrison

 

[burnt]

Hi there Scott, long time no hear! Still working this thing are you?

Hey did you ever find help for that chronic bad back of yours? Or was it a hip? Or was it higher up?

 

[flounder]

Mad Cow Back In The News Monday, 14 June 2010

An Ontario lawyer, Cameron Pallet, is trying to get ranchers together to sue the federal government for what he calls negligence for not monitoring BSE better.

Back in 2003 BSE fears shut many borders to Canadian beef, bringing the cattle industry to its knees. It caused many ranchers to give up.

This lawsuit, which could take five to ten years to settle, is said to be in the billion dollar range with over 130,000 ranchers taking part.

Pallet is encouraging farmers to sign a petition asking Ottawa to appoint a mediator to settle the lawsuit early.

http://www.discovermoosejaw.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12688&Itemid=403



TSS

 

[Big Muddy rancher]

Mad Cow Back In The News Monday, 14 June 2010

An Ontario lawyer, Cameron Pallet, is trying to get ranchers together to sue the federal government for what he calls negligence for not monitoring BSE better.

Back in 2003 BSE fears shut many borders to Canadian beef, bringing the cattle industry to its knees. It caused many ranchers to give up.

This lawsuit, which could take five to ten years to settle, is said to be in the billion dollar range with over 130,000 ranchers taking part.

Pallet is encouraging farmers to sign a petition asking Ottawa to appoint a mediator to settle the lawsuit early.

http://www.discovermoosejaw.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12688&Itemid=403



TSS

He's in Moose Jaw at the SSGA convention today.

 

[Kato]

Actually, he's not trying to get ranchers together to sue the government. They are already together and have been in the process of suing the government since 2005. It's been in court for years now being certified as a legitimate class action suit. It started as several suits, and has now been combined into one national suit. Government lawyers tried to block it moving forward before eight different judges, and were unsuccessful every time. Next time it goes to court it's for a decision.

Estimates are that with appeals and such that could go on for ten more years, so the petition is to send a message to the government to appoint a mediator and settle it now.

And that's the facts.

Any Canucks here who would like a petition? PM me.

 

[mc486]

Hi Everyone,

I was asked how I could say that the above described BSE bone meal exposure /terrorism is the only kind of BSE exposure event which could cause the Albertan BSE ?

As you all know when the cattle with full blown BSE were discovered in Alberta, thousands from their herds were tested but no others showed positive. No BSE asymptomatic cattle were discovered. How could this be? Only a high level of exposure would cause this; such as directly feeding the Albertan Cattle with BSE containing bone meal from the UK made in the 1990's.

As you probably know Ridley has had a 6 million dollar fine placed against it by the Federal court of Canada as it was determined that it was one of their cattle feed supplements that caused the Albertan BSE. The exact brand number is known and mentioned on line. As they never imported any Cattle products from the UK their liability was limited. How then could this happen? When Ridley makes a batch of its feed supplement it would obviously be homogenized by this process and they would have produced dozens of drums in a batch. These drums of homogenized feed supplement would be feed to thousands of cattle and would create as many cases of cattle BSE. Why did this not occur? This is because as mentioned in previous posts Jim Wood only added the 20 to 30 Kg of BSE bone meal he took through Winnipeg out to Alberta to the top a few drums. This occurred in late 1998 and was documented in the last page of the 23 page report. This is why only a small number(17) of Albertan Cattle came down with the full blown disease. If you look to previous post that mentions the Albertan Cattleman's page you will see this. That exposure to a single BSE causing event causes this disease in most cattle after between 2 and 8 years. This is a 6 year span. The Albertan BSE cases occurred from 2003 to 2009 or a 6 year span. That's because the Albertan BSE cases were the product of a single exposure event by Herb Campbell and Jim Wood. If what the Canadian BSE Lawyers describe in their case against the Canadian Government were true it would have caused thousands of cases starting just before the mid 1990's and carrying on to today.

It's easy for me to reverse engineer this situation and its causation as I know exactly what caused it. This is detailed in my previous posts and backed up in the 23 page document as well as other documentation I have sent out as attachments . Just email me at [email protected] for a copy. These documents contain a copy of the tag from one of the two bags of BSE bone meal illegally brought here from Ireland in 1998 by Herb Campbell. It contains documents and emails signed by Herb Campbell incriminating him as the importer of the BSE bone meal that caused the Albertan BSE. In addition it clearly shows that I was contacting people/government officials and warning them about this BSE situation years before it surfaced in Alberta.

The reason for the government delaying the court proceedings to do with this Albertan BSE situation another 3 years is so that it will then be ten years after the fact of the first Albertan BSE occurrence. This is so that when the Cattle farmers of Alberta are finally told they will be receiving nothing for their loses the story will end up on the back page. Everyone will say what do you expect its been ten years! If you had a real case the government would have compensated you years ago! Without hard evidence of Canadian government wrong doing/involvement in the causation of the Albertan BSE the Cattle farmers of Alberta/Canada have little to make a claim with. This is the very evidence we have been sending out in the form of actual documents/evidence from 1998. The British Cattle producers were compensated for 50% of there loses without years of fighting. Their BSE situation was the product of an unintentional accident/recycle loop that went on for decades by their feed supplement providers.

The Albertan BSE was caused by an intentional act of bio terrorism by a few former Canadian Government people operating out of a Canadian Government facility. The Albertan Cattle people should therefore obviously be fully compensated for both their losses and damages by the Canadian Government! In 2005 the losses and damages alone were pegged at over $20 billion US. One American Cattle legal group I have contacted said all the documentation I have is very good and applicable to a court proceeding but most limitation acts limit the time to begin a legal proceeding to a couple years after the discovery of a claim. I mentioned to them the fact that there is no statute of limitations on acts of terrorism. They absolutely agreed that I could then proceed at any time.

Regards,
S.R. Harrison

 

[TSR]

Rather than have readers here try to sift through so much material, how about someone knowledgeable summarize why these people alledgedly introduced the infected material into the feed. What were they gaining by doing so?

 

[flounder]

Actually, he's not trying to get ranchers together to sue the government. They are already together and have been in the process of suing the government since 2005. It's been in court for years now being certified as a legitimate class action suit. It started as several suits, and has now been combined into one national suit. Government lawyers tried to block it moving forward before eight different judges, and were unsuccessful every time. Next time it goes to court it's for a decision.

Estimates are that with appeals and such that could go on for ten more years, so the petition is to send a message to the government to appoint a mediator and settle it now.

And that's the facts.

Any Canucks here who would like a petition? PM me.

[email protected]


http://www.bseclassaction.ca/english/team.htm





Monday, April 12, 2010 |
By Will Verboven

BSE Lawsuit Moves Slowly Through The Courts
CLAIMS . Lawyer seeks to amalgamate provincial actions into a single national class-action case



CAMERON PALLET "I felt that after looking at the circumstances, the federal government couldn't get away with this"

TORONTO LAWYER, LEGAL COUNSEL

More than 200 cattle producers attended a March 31 rally here to hear the latest update on a class-action lawsuit to recover damages from alleged federal mishandling of BSE.

The meeting, organized by Ponoka-area rancher Randy Kaiser, was Alberta's first major information session on the lawsuit.

This legal action has been working its way through provincial courts since 2005 when the original statements of claim were filed in Alberta, Ontario, Quebec and Manitoba. The claims were filed on behalf of individual cattle producers in those provinces with the intent of seeing them all amalgamated into a single class-action lawsuit. The defendant will be the government of Canada.

The claim states that Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada was negligent in the manner it dealt with the BSE outbreak and that subsequently had a severe economic impact on the livelihood of cattle producers in Canada.

Cameron Pallet, a Toronto lawyer, is the lead legal counsel in this lawsuit. The case is represented in Alberta by Clint Docken of Calgary. Progress in the case has been slow and Pallet said news has been kept low key on purpose. "We didn't want to create false hope by promising that it would be an easy and quick case," he told the rally.

Pallet said that some progress has been made with judges in the provinces accepting the case and agreeing to a process to amalgamate the various provincial actions into one class-action lawsuit. The government lawyers have tried to have the case thrown out of court, but to this point have failed.

After laying out the background to the case Pallet said, "I felt that after looking at the circumstances, the federal government couldn't get away with this."

Pallet said it has taken five years to get to this point but may take as much as 10 years if the case were to end up in the Supreme Court. Pallet told the audience. He said that the case has some precedents in its favour, but noted that the government spent years fighting the residential school and hepatitis C lawsuits until finally coming to a settlement.

Pallet encouraged cattle producers to contact their local MPs, MLAs and even the Prime Minister to tell them to settle. "Cattle producers have to create the political will to settle this case just like it was done in the other class-action cases"

Members of the audience asked whether provincial cattle organizations such as Alberta Beef Producers supported the lawsuit. Pallet said that to this point they were not involved in any way but he encouraged producers to contact their cattle organizations.

A spokesperson for the ABP said it was not involved because the lawsuit is considered a private business legal action.


http://www.agcanada.com/Article.aspx?ID=21215



TSS

 

[Kato]

As you probally know Ridley has had a 6 million dollar fine placed against it by the federal court of Canada as it was determined that it was one of there cattle feed suppliments that caused the Albertan BSE.

Not quite. They settled out of court for six million dollars. This is funding the rest of the legal bills for Canadian producers, with leftover money being donated to veterinary colleges. They have also been released from any further liability in this matter.

As for the organizations, they are not officially involved for a reason. This is between individual cattle producers, and the government, and as far as the petitions are concerned, they are not meant to be from any one group. A lot of people have parked their politics at the door, and are working on this together, with no official leadership. This is how it needs to be. People who normally would never work together on any other issue are working together now. We're just a bunch of citizens with a common goal.

 

[mc486]

Above I was asked why these people did this. This is a short version:

I guess the situation of funding for these people came to a head when the millions of dollars in funding these people expected to get from the Alberta Oil Sands Project fell through. This Herb Campbell traveled to Calgary thinking this Marc Halevy would meet him there with a winning proposal to the Alberta Oil company technology reps. to get funding. Apparently Marc Halevy didn't even show up for the meeting. Some people said he was up all night drinking. Others said that knowing the Alberta Oil company technology reps. hated him and would humiliate him at the meeting, Marc Halevy chose not to go.

Anyways the funding from the Alberta Oil companies was lost. Of course, these former government employees thought they had a right to be mad. They would not be able to sustain their positions. They felt that this was the end for them. These people were the most arogant SOBs I had ever met. I can remember a couple of months in which all they talked about was how wrong and messed up Alberta was. I remember bringing up the subject of a former employee in our division (Industrial Division) Mark Preston who had left several years before. He was from Burlington, Ontario. Somehow the conversation got twisted around by these people to him being from Alberta and that he must therefore be an idiot. It was at this point that this BSE/Bone meal showed up. These former government people really did believe they had a right to be mad at Alberta. I guess this is were all Terrorism comes from. People who believe they have been wronged and that they would get even regardless of how many innocent lives they destroy.

One thing I probably mentioned before is the fact that these WTI people closely associated themselves with the Ontario government people and saw them as there peers. They always talked about how the Ontario government was being cut back because of Mike Harris(our then Premiere) having to follow Premiere Kliens of Alberta actions to reduce deficit spending. This was so to keep our bond ratings in Ontario in a sensible range to reduce the high interest on our high provincial debt. The WTI people and their Ontario government friends both saw this as effecting their life blood and as being Premiere Kliens and the people of Alberta who elected him fault for causing this problem for them.

There are also a number of other reasons these people had disliked Alberta and its people that is too lengthy to go into here. We have people who can coroberate this in Alberta.

Regards,

S.R. Harrison

 

[mc486]

Quote: As you probally know Ridley has had a 6 million dollar fine placed against it by the federal court of Canada as it was determined that it was one of there cattle feed suppliments that caused the Albertan BSE.

Quote:
Not quite. They settled out of court for six million dollars. This is funding the rest of the legal bills for Canadian producers, with leftover money being donated to veterinary colleges. They have also been released from any further liability in this matter.

I contacted Ridley in 2005 and told them about the Albertan BSE situation information I had. They kept calling back every 30 minutes until I finally faxed them the information. I had changed my address just after this time and did not get back to them. They might very well have investigated this situation and used this information to make a secret deal with Government of Canada out of court. When you state that Ridley " settled out of court for six million dollars" and "have also been released from any further liability in this matter" it does seem a little fishy. Behind closed doors you don't really know what happened or who really payed what.

Regards,
S.R. Harrison

 

[mc486]

Hi Everyone,

The URL for this blog is being blocked from Google Canada by the Government of Canada. This is how I know this. A few weeks after I put this blog up a friend of mine typed "cause of Albertan BSE" into Google Canada and this blog came up as number one and two. A little more than a month later he did this again but this blog not only did not come up in the top ten for "cause of Albertan BSE" , but could not be found on Google Canada. He told me that even if the Ranchers.net forum was down this blog would still be in Google Canada's catch unless it was removed or blocked. It's not that hard to remove a URL for a blog from Google Canada but only the Federal Government of Canada can tell them to block a URL for a particular blog. We entered the blog titles for the blogs before and after this one plus Ranchers.net and they all came up as number ones on Google Canada's search engine. My friend went to the Google Canada site for entering a URL for a blog into their data base. He did this for both this URL and the URL for the original copy of this blog at the Cattle Today forum. A few days later we checked and found that the URL for this blog on Google Canada came up for the Cattle Today forum post but not for this Ranchers net forum. In other words this blog is being blocked on Google Canada by the Federal Government of Canada. The reason for the Federal Government of Canada to be blocking this blog here over the one at the Cattle Today forum is that they know that there are a lot more Albertan/Canadian Cattle farmers who come here. Also most people use Google Canada as a search engine in Canada.

A few days after this above blocking I received a pdf formatted letter from Jim Prentis - the Canadian Minister of the Environment responsible for the federal facility where this BSE/bone meal was illegally imported through that caused the Albertan BSE. I had last contacted his ministry many months ago and sent a copy of the 23 page report along with documentation showing what this Herb Campbell/Jim Wood had done with this illegally imported BSE/bone meal. Jim Prentis replied to this message stating that "this facility was being run by a private company - WTI between the years of 1996 and 1999 and what happened there in these years was not the responsibility of the Canadian Government" . The facts here are this. The time charged for the project involving this illegally imported BSE/bone meal from Ireland was charged to overhead or the Government of Canada's account. You're hard earned tax dollars at work. The equipment used for the project as well as the facility belonged to the Government of Canada. This Herb Campbell and Jim Wood were former Canadian Government employees (LWOPS). This illegal importation of BSE bone meal could not have occurred without the Government of Canada and their facility at CCIW. This is shown well in the documentation I have forwarded to many of you.

I hope that the Government of Canada unblocks this URL/blog from Google Canada so all Canadian Cattle farmers can find/see it. Like today!

Regards,
S.R. Harrison

 

[flounder]

BP buys Google, Yahoo search words to keep people away from real news on Gulf oil disaster Monday, June 7, 2010 at 1:00 PM by GottaLaff 3 Comments and 0 Reactions I didn't see this report yesterday, but I'm not surprised by it. Nothing BP does, or doesn't do, surprises me. Why should this be different:

In their most tenacious effort to control the 'spin' on the worst oil spill disaster in the history, BP has purchased top internet search engine words so they can re-direct people away from real news on the Deepwater Horizon catastrophe.

BP spokesman Toby Odone confirmed to ABC News that the oil giant had in fact bought internet search terms. So now when someone searches the words 'oil spill', on the internet, the top link will re-direct them to BP's official company website.



http://www.google.com/search?q=cwd&hl=en&tbo=s&tbs=nws:1,sbd:1&source=lnt&sa=X&ei=jrQOTNv0O4L68AbX_YzICA&ved=0CBsQpwU#hl=en&q=bp%20buying%20up%20google%20search%20titles&wrapid=tlif12821438218712&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=nw&fp=e2e77dd66464889a

Hi Everyone,

The URL for this blog is being blocked from Google Canada by the Government of Canada. This is how I know this. A few weeks after I put this blog up a friend of mine typed "cause of Albertan BSE" into Google Canada and this blog came up as number one and two. A little more than a month later he did this again but this blog not only did not come up in the top ten for "cause of Albertan BSE" , but could not be found on Google Canada. He told me that even if the Ranchers.net forum was down this blog would still be in Google Canada's catch unless it was removed or blocked. It's not that hard to remove a URL for a blog from Google Canada but only the Federal Government of Canada can tell them to block a URL for a particular blog. We entered the blog titles for the blogs before and after this one plus Ranchers.net and they all came up as number ones on Google Canada's search engine. My friend went to the Google Canada site for entering a URL for a blog into their data base. He did this for both this URL and the URL for the original copy of this blog at the Cattle Today forum. A few days later we checked and found that the URL for this blog on Google Canada came up for the Cattle Today forum post but not for this Ranchers net forum. In other words this blog is being blocked on Google Canada by the Federal Government of Canada. The reason for the Federal Government of Canada to be blocking this blog here over the one at the Cattle Today forum is that they know that there are a lot more Albertan/Canadian Cattle farmers who come here. Also most people use Google Canada as a search engine in Canada.

A few days after this above blocking I received a pdf formatted letter from Jim Prentis - the Canadian Minister of the Environment responsible for the federal facility where this BSE/bone meal was illegally imported through that caused the Albertan BSE. I had last contacted his ministry a couple of years ago and sent a copy of the 23 page report along with documentation showing what this Herb Campbell/Jim Wood had done with this illegally imported BSE/bone meal. Jim Prentis replied to this message stating that "this facility was being run by a private company - WTI between the years of 1996 and 1999 and what happened there in these years was not the responsibility of the Canadian Government" . The facts here are this. The time charged for the project involving this illegally imported BSE/bone meal from Ireland was charged to overhead or the Government of Canada's account. You're hard earned tax dollars at work. The equipment used for the project as well as the facility belonged to the Government of Canada. This Herb Campbell and Jim Wood were former Canadian Government employees (LWOPS). This illegal importation of BSE bone meal could not have occurred without the Government of Canada and their facility at CCIW. This is shown well in the documentation I have forwarded to many of you.

I hope that the Government of Canada unblocks this URL/blog from Google Canada so all Canadian Cattle farmers can find/see it. Like today!

Regards,
S.R. Harrison