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Alberta BSE caused by illegal Ontario importation

No one has given an acceptable explanation as to how cattle are being exposed to BSE prions in countries where the feeding of meat and bone meal has been outlawed for over 15 years!!! The unfortunate victims of BSE are coming into contact with the prions somewhere. Knowing the fact that prions are indestructible, knowing the fact that prions may seed down the environment, knowing there is no method of satisfactory disinfection for BSE prions, and knowing there is no treatment for animals that contract BSE, why would the USDA consider allowing such a horrendous disease to enter the United States of America? The real answer will surprise you:

1) The USDA subscribes to the idea that BSE can arise in a particular population of cattle spontaneously. In other words, the USDA believes BSE may, in fact, already infect cattle in the United States through the process of spontaneous generation of the abnormal prions that cause BSE. I have heard with my own ears this theory espoused by a USDA veterinarian at the January 2003 annual Kansas Cattlemen's Association convention at Dodge City, Kansas. This USDA veterinarian even expressed his view that the US may have exported BSE to Canada in the early 1990's with the exportation of US meat and bone meal to the Canadian feed industry.


2) The USDA has determined that the US beef cattle industry is part of a North American system. Beef cattle in Canada, the United States, and Mexico are all part of one big integrated system. Chandler Keys, a National Cattlemen's Association spokesman has stated this concept in this manner, and I quote, "It's a good lesson for all of us," said Keys. "We've got to strive to work together. We're a North American system." The last time I looked, no Canadian has offered to pay my income taxes, property taxes, or veterinary inspection fees. When I called the Canadian Embassy and asked about exporting cattle from Missouri to Alberta, I was told Canada would not accept cattle from Missouri because of the possibility of Missouri cattle being infected with Blue Tongue and Anaplasmosis. So much for a North American cattle industry.


3) The USDA is convinced that by boning out meat and removing certain Specified Risk Materials (brain, spinal chord, lymph nodes, ileum, etc), the risk of spreading BSE prions is minimal. This may well be an acceptable method to reduce spread of BSE prions associated with raw meat, but what about live cattle? Live cattle harboring BSE prions, like live deer and elk that harbor Chronic Wasting Disease prions, shed BSE prions into their environment and may take months or years to actually die of this dread disease. Italy, England, Ireland, and Spain all have discovered many new cases of BSE in live cattle during this past year. They have had control measures in place since the late 1980's and early 1990's. Japan continues to discover new cases of BSE in younger and younger animals. We cannot afford to have consumer confidence in beef potentially undermined by continually finding new, and unexplained, cases of BSE in the United States.
 
Hi Flounder and Everyone,

I will attempt to answer Flounders excellent argument for spontaneous BSE clusters and why they occur.

The rate of BSE occurrence in cattle is one in six million according to the USDAs website. There were about 2 million cattle in Alberta at the time of their BSE outbreak. This means that probability wise that about one third of one case of BSE could occur in Alberta. 17 cases have actually occurred. How then did this occur? The only known risk factor for BSE is for cattle to be feed with bone meal made from cattle infected with BSE. This is the vector for BSE. This is the position also held by the Alberta's Cattlemen's website as previously mentioned. This is exactly what has been described on this blog and backed up with documentation from 1998 the time of this illegal BSE bone meal importation.

Then how could other BSE clusters occur such as the one in Japan? The claim that spontaneous BSE clusters can occur I believe is an empirical claim. They happen and because there is no explanation they must be accepted as a possible reason for BSE cluster occurrence. I believe that all BSE clusters are purposely created for reasons such as economics or revenge. I will explain with an example.

This is a hypothetical situation that could explain Japans BSE cluster. In the 1980's and 1990's beef was making great strides in Japan. Their traditional seafood diet was beginning to be upstaged by beef. Once you try beef you don't go back. This was cutting into the seafood sectors profitability. A major seafood company in Japan gets contacted by a British man with access to BSE/bone meal. He says that for a sizable fee he will put several duffel bags of this BSE/bone meal on a flight to Japan. He explains that by adding this BSE/bone meal to the top of drums of cattle feed supplement in Japan it will create BSE there and their seafood sectors market share will come back. He also explains that this will occur after several years so there is no chance of them being caught. This is only one scenario and is a possible reason for Japans BSE cluster.

Such scenarios are obviously possible for all BSE clusters. There was a mountain of BSE/bone meal in the UK in the 1990's and that guy with access to it is looking to make a bundle at the expense of the world beef market.

Every action has a consequence, every effect a cause. Everything happens for a reason. This could very well explain the occurance of BSE clusters in the world.

Regards,
S.R. Harrison
 
mc486 said:
Hi Flounder and Everyone,

I will attempt to answer Flounders excellent argument for spontaneous BSE clusters and why they occur.

The rate of BSE occurrence in cattle is one in six million according to the USDAs website. There were about 2 million cattle in Alberta at the time of their BSE outbreak. This means that probability wise that about one third of one case of BSE could occur in Alberta. 17 cases have actually occurred. How then did this occur? The only known risk factor for BSE is for cattle to be feed with bone meal made from cattle infected with BSE. This is the vector for BSE. This is the position also held by the Alberta's Cattlemen's website as previously mentioned. This is exactly what has been described on this blog and backed up with documentation from 1998 the time of this illegal BSE bone meal importation.

Then how could other BSE clusters occur such as the one in Japan? The claim that spontaneous BSE clusters can occur I believe is an empirical claim. They happen and because there is no explanation they must be accepted as a possible reason for BSE cluster occurrence. I believe that all BSE clusters are purposely created for reasons such as economics or revenge. I will explain with an example.

This is a hypothetical situation that could explain Japans BSE cluster. In the 1980's and 1990's beef was making great strides in Japan. Their traditional seafood diet was beginning to be upstaged by beef. Once you try beef you don't go back. This was cutting into the seafood sectors profitability. A major seafood company in Japan gets contacted by a British man with access to BSE/bone meal. He says that for a sizable fee he will put several duffel bags of this BSE/bone meal on a flight to Japan. He explains that by adding this BSE/bone meal to the top of drums of cattle feed supplement in Japan it will create BSE there and their seafood sectors market share will come back. He also explains that this will occur after several years so there is no chance of them being caught. This is only one scenario and is a possible reason for Japans BSE cluster.

Such scenarios are obviously possible for all BSE clusters. There was a mountain of BSE/bone meal in the UK in the 1990's and that guy with access to it is looking to make a bundle at the expense of the world beef market.

Every action has a consequence, every effect a cause. Everything happens for a reason. This could very well explain the occurance of BSE clusters in the world.

Regards,
S.R. Harrison




Greetings Mr. Harrison,


i don't believe the theory of spontaneous sporadic mutation of natural field TSE's in humans or animals. as you, i believe there is a source and there is a route of all natural human and animal TSE. some may be more susceptible to a particular TSE in a given location, and that could be for any number of reasons, but the _ genetic susceptibility_ is the key to the clusters from whatever route and source of the TSE agent in any given location, and that could be more than one strain too. my opinion. ...TSS


Tuesday, July 27, 2010

Spontaneous generation of mammalian prions

http://madcowspontaneousnot.blogspot.com/2010/07/spontaneous-generation-of-mammalian.html
 
Hi Everyone,

I have been asked repeatedly why I have kept all of this (over 200 pages) documentation concerning the illegal importation to Ontario and then out to Alberta in 1998 of this BSE/bone meal that caused the Alberta BSE situation.

Here's Why:

When this BSE/bone meal first showed up it became evident that this Herb Campbell had no honest reason for him to illegally import this material. As shown in the 23 page document I've been emailing out the project number used was non-existent. Not to be found anywhere on the 4 page comprehensive list of WTI projects numbers from that time included in the 23 page document. The project was hidden by charging it to overhead or government. This was a hidden project for the obvious reason that this project was a ruse used to get this BSE/bone meal to Ontario. Herb Campbell wanted no one to know about it. I have documentation showing that the money WTI would be receiving for this project was only a small fraction of what it cost. This at a time when the company/facility was almost bankrupt. There was no chance of recovering this cost from further testing as the pilot unit along with the technology had been sold to a company in Austrialia a year before. This Herb Campbell went way out on a limb to get this BSE/bone meal here just as the Alkida went out on a limb to cause 911.

To get this BSE/bone meal to Ontario the two duffle bags were illegally put on a flight from Ireland. Herb Campbell as mentioned above was extremely accommodating to this Pearce from Ireland to get him to put the two duffle bags of BSE/bone meal on this flight from Ireland as luggage. I knew as previously mentioned that Herb Campbell had been repeatedly humiliated by people from the province of Alberta regarding getting lucrative project money from them. This was not some real injustice but only his own fault.. This meant he and his ex-government group would not be able to continue with there high paid positions at this government of Canada facility. This greatly angered him and this group as they had almost no projects left to sustain them.

When I saw that this project was only an excuse/ruse to get this BSE/bone meal here I thought that one day the RCMP would show up at my door to charge me in connection with this illegal importation. That's why I documented everything around this situation. This is what your suppose to do. From what I had read online as well as documents I received from Ministry of Agriculture in 1999 (some of these pages are included in the 23 page report) I found out that just importation of this BSE/bone meal illegally is a major Federal offence. This because of this materials potential to destroy the Beef industry here in Canada which is exactly what happened.

When I discovered what this BSE/bone meal really was I contacted the government and they were appalled at this. In the 23 page document there is a copy of Dr. George Mraz card from the Canadian Food Inspection Agency who came and picked up part of one of the two bags of BSE/bone meal. I thought this would end whatever they were doing with this BSE/bone meal but people who were bent the way these people were are very determined. The facts behind Albertas BSE show that thinking it was caused by a mistake/accident is like believing 911 was caused by pilot error.

I have documentation to back up the claims from the time of these occurrences for virtually every event surrounding this Albertan BSE causing situation.

Regards.

S.R. Harrison
 
Good point Hypocritexposer,

Foriegn mail packages from the UK were usually opened by Canada Post/customs at that time(1998). Even a furnace I imported from the UK for a company I worked at in 1985 to Ontario was held for months by Canada Post/customs for inspection for fear it had cattle parts inside. Air Lugage with/containing bone meal could go through easily unnoticed in 1998. What Airport customs was looking for at that time was drugs or guns. This Herb Campbell knew what he was doing from his connections in government to do with the transport of illegal goods.

If you live in Canada you might of seen the Ministry of Agriculture commercials with lugage going by at an airport and them stating "this bag could destroy Canadian agricuture" I think that commercial says it all. It addreses a security flaw that exists even today.

Regards,

S.R. Harrison
 
mc486 said:
Good point Hypocritexposer,

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If you live in Canada you might of seen the Ministry of Agriculture commercials with lugage going by at an airport and them stating "this bag could distroy Canadian agricuture" I think that commercial says it all. It addreses a security flaw that exists even today.

Regards,

S.R. Harrison




Docket APHIS-2007-0033 Docket Title Agricultural Bioterrorism Protection Act of 2002; Biennial Review and Republication of the Select Agent and Toxin List Docket Type Rulemaking Document APHIS-2007-0033-0001 Document Title Agricultural Bioterrorism Protection Act of 2002; Biennial Review and Republication of the Select Agent and Toxin List Public Submission APHIS-2007-0033-0002.1 Public Submission Title Attachment to Singeltary comment

http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspublic/component/main?main=DocumentDetail&o=090000648027c28e

http://www.regulations.gov/search/Regs/contentStreamer?objectId=090000648027c28e&disposition=attachment&contentType=pdf

# Docket No: 02-088-1 RE-Agricultural Bioterrorism Protection Act of 2002; [TSS SUBMISSION ON POTENTIAL FOR BSE/TSE & FMD 'SUITCASE BOMBS'] - TSS 1/27/03 (0)

Docket Management

Docket: 02N-0276 - Bioterrorism Preparedness; Registration of Food Facilities, Section 305 Comment Number: EC-254 [TSS SUBMISSION]

http://www.aphis.usda.gov/vs/ceah/cei/bse_greece0701.htm

Greetings list members,

i just cannot accept this;

23 kg of meat in a suitcase (suitcase bomb...TSS)

The data do not provide a species of origin code for these

products, therefore they may not contain any ruminant product.

what kind of statement is this? how stupid do they think we are? it could also very well mean that _all_ of it was ruminant based products !

Terry S. Singeltary Sr., Bacliff, Texas USA

What is the level of passenger traffic arriving in the United States from Slovenia?

There were no direct flights from Slovenia to the US in fiscal year 2000.

APHIS-PPQ's agriculture quarantine inspection monitoring sampled 27 air passengers from Slovenia for items of agricultural interest in fiscal year 2000.

One of these 27 passengers was carrying two kilograms of a meat item that could potentially harbor pathogens that cause BSE. This passenger arrived to Elizabeth, New York, in June 2000 and declared no intention to visit a farm or ranch in the US.

Source: US Department of Transportation, and APHIS-PPQ Agricultural Quarantine Inspection data base http://www.aphis.usda.gov/vs/ceah/cei/bse_slovenia1101.htm

What is the level of passenger traffic arriving in the United States from the affected country?

A total of 45,438 passengers arrived in the US on direct flights from the Czech Republic in fiscal year 2000. It is likely that additional passengers originating in the Czech Republic traveled to the US on non-direct flights.

As part of APHIS-PPQ's Agriculture Quarantine Inspection Monitoring, 238 air passengers from the Czech Republic were inspected for items of agricultural interest in fiscal year 2000. Of these, 10, or 4.2%, were found to be carrying a total of 17 kg of items that could potentially present a risk for BSE. None of the passengers with items reported plans to visit or work on a farm or ranch while in the US.

Source: US Department of Transportation, and APHIS-PPQ Agricultural Quarantine Inspection data base http://www.aphis.usda.gov/vs/ceah/cei/bse_cz0601.htm

What are the US imports of affected animals or animal products from Austria?

Between 1998 and June 2001, US imports from Austria included goat meat, animal feeds, and sausage. The sausage and animals feeds were from unspecified species. Source: World Trade Atlas

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What is the level of passenger traffic arriving in the United States from Austria?

A total of 168,598 passengers on direct flights from Austria arrived at US airports in fiscal year 2000.

An undetermined number of passengers from Austria arrived in the US via indirect flights. Under APHIS-PPQ's agricultural quarantine inspection monitoring, 565 air passengers from Austria were sampled for items of agricultural interest in fiscal year 2000. Ten (10) of these passengers, or 1.7 percent, carried a total of 23 kg meat (non-pork) items that could potentially harbor the pathogen(s) that cause BSE. None of these passengers from whom meat items were confiscated reported plans to visit or work on a ranch or farm during their visit to the US.

Source: US Dept. of Transportation; APHIS-PPQ http://www.aphis.usda.gov/vs/ceah/cei/bse_austria1201.htm

Greetings FDA and public,

if you go to the below site, and search all BSE known countries and check out their air traffic illegal meat they have confiscated, and check out the low number checked, compared to actual passenger traffic, would not take too much for some nut to bring in FMD/TSEs into the USA as a 'suitcase bomb'.

[[Under APHIS-PPQ's agricultural quarantine inspection monitoring, 284 air passengers from Israel were sampled for items of agricultural interest in fiscal year 2001. Seven of these passengers, or 2 percent, carried a total of 11 kg of meat items that could potentially harbor the pathogen that causes BSE. None of these passengers from whom meat items were confiscated reported plans to visit or work on a ranch or farm during their visit to the U.S.]]

if they were to have questioned the terrorist that bombed the Twin Towers with jets, if they were to have questioned them at flight school in the USA, i am sure that they would have said they did not intend to visit the Twin Towers as a flying bomb either. what am i thinking, they probably did ask this? stupid me.

http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/dockets/02n0276/02N-0276-EC-254.htm

Greetings,

IF the truth were known (and it's not like I have not been trying), the USA, Canada, and Mexico (there are other Countries too), should all be listed in this new TSE prion trader friendly atmosphere as ''undetermined risk''. Because USDA et al have absolutely no idea. The ideology of only the UK BSE theory and there from only imported MBM and feed, to ignore the fact that the continuous rendering technology was developed and the USDA got the UK to use it first, some five years before the USA started using the same technology, and then the fact of all the different TSE in different species here in North America, and different strains there from, to continue to believe in only the imported factor of feed and animals, and not take seriously the _home grown_ factor, from tainted _home grown TSE tainted feed_, from the same type rendering technology, is like sticking your head in a hole in the ground and hoping for the best. kind of like what BP did in the Gulf of Mexico. But for the OIE to continue to go by this decades old science on BSE, and continue to ignore the risk factors from other strains of BSE, and other TSE in other species, when scientist from around the globe continue to wave flags of concern, to continue this ignorance is dangerous for human and animal health. But typical for the OIE and the USDA in reference to the Transmissible Spongiform Encephalopathy disease. Both the USDA and the OIE have ignored these documented risk factors for years, even decades, simply for trading purposes. The USDA et al until 2003 when the first documented case of c-BSE was documented in Washington State, the USDA had nothing to do with countries that had BSE. Until that cow old Luther capped in Washington, then the shoe was on the other foot. The USDA and the OIE after that literally changed the rules and regulations on BSE that had been in place for almost a decade trying to eradicate it all around the globe before it mutated, by doing away with the BSE GBR risk assessments and ignoring them, and implementing the infamous force fed USDA BSE MRR policy (all this is explained below in the source reference). But two mad cows sat on ice while all this political science was taking place for 7 months. One finally confirmed thanks to the OIG and the Honorable Phyllis Fong, and the other could not be confirmed due to the fact in had been improperly stored for 4 MONTHS, before testing. Kind of like the other stumbling and staggering mad cow in Texas that got away, went straight to be rendered for pet food, without NO TSE prion test at all. I could go on, about the healthy brains, from healthy cows, cows they knew did not have BSE, submitted for the infamous 2004 Enhanced BSE surveillance and testing program, or the other 9,200 brains they only used IHC testing, the least likely to find BSE. Sadly, once they did start documenting BSE back to back, they shut it down, said that was enough, let's cancel this right here in it's tracks, and we have heard nothing since, like the USA has now become immune to any TSE in any bovine. ;

When the OIE and the USDA et al collaborated to make legal the trading of Transmissible Spongiform Encephalopathy, when they did away with the BSE GBR risk assessments, where the USA, Canada, and Mexico were categorized as BSE GBR III. please see ;

EFSA concludes that the current GBR level of USA is III, i.e. it is likely but not confirmed that domestic cattle are (clinically or pre-clinically) infected with the BSE-agent. As long as there are no significant changes in rendering or feeding, the stability remains extremely/very unstable. Thus, the probability of cattle to be (pre-clinically or clinically) infected with the BSE-agent persistently increases.

http://www.efsa.europa.eu/EFSA/efsa_locale-1178620753812_1211902594180.htm

Annex to the EFSA Scientific Report (2004) 3, 1-17 on the Assessment of the Geographical BSE Risk of USA

please see full text ;

http://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/scdocs/doc/3rax1.pdf

The most recent assessments (and reassessments) were published in June 2005 (Table I; 18), and included the categorisation of Canada, the USA, and Mexico as GBR III. Although only Canada and the USA have reported cases, the historically open system of trade in North America suggests that it is likely that BSE is present also in Mexico.

http://www.oie.int/boutique/extrait/06heim937950.pdf

Scientific Report of the European Food Safety Authority on the Assessment of the Geographical BSE Risk (GBR) of the USA Question number: EFSA-Q-2003-083

Adopted: 1 July 2004 Summary (0.1Mb)

Report (0.2Mb)

Summary

The European Food Safety Authority and its Scientific Expert Working Group on the Assessment of the Geographical Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE) Risk (GBR) were asked by the European Commission (EC) to provide an up-to-date scientific report on the GBR in the United States of America, i.e. the likelihood of the presence of one or more cattle being infected with BSE, pre-clinically as well as clinically, in USA. This scientific report addresses the GBR of USA as assessed in 2004 based on data covering the period 1980-2003.

The BSE agent was probably imported into USA and could have reached domestic cattle in the middle of the eighties. These cattle imported in the mid eighties could have been rendered in the late eighties and therefore led to an internal challenge in the early nineties. It is possible that imported meat and bone meal (MBM) into the USA reached domestic cattle and leads to an internal challenge in the early nineties.

A processing risk developed in the late 80s/early 90s when cattle imports from BSE risk countries were slaughtered or died and were processed (partly) into feed, together with some imports of MBM. This risk continued to exist, and grew significantly in the mid 90's when domestic cattle, infected by imported MBM, reached processing. Given the low stability of the system, the risk increased over the years with continued imports of cattle and MBM from BSE risk countries.

EFSA concludes that the current GBR level of USA is III, i.e. it is likely but not confirmed that domestic cattle are (clinically or pre-clinically) infected with the BSE-agent. As long as there are no significant changes in rendering or feeding, the stability remains extremely/very unstable. Thus, the probability of cattle to be (pre-clinically or clinically) infected with the BSE-agent persistently increases.

http://www.efsa.europa.eu/EFSA/efsa_locale-1178620753812_1211902594180.htm

Scientific Report of the European Food Safety Authority on the Assessment of the Geographical BSE Risk (GBR) of Canada Question number: EFSA-Q-2003-083

Adopted: 1 July 2004 Summary (0.1Mb)

Report (0.2Mb)

Summary

The European Food Safety Authority and its Scientific Expert Working Group on the Assessment of the Geographical Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE) Risk (GBR) were asked to provide an up-to-date scientific report on the GBR in Canada, i.e. the likelihood of the presence of one or more cattle being infected with BSE, pre-clinically as well as clinically, in Canada. This scientific report addresses the GBR of Canada as assessed in 2004 based on data covering the period 1980-2003.

The BSE agent was probably imported into the country middle of the eighties and could have reached domestic cattle in the early nineties. These cattle imported in the mid eighties could have been rendered in the late eighties and therefore led to an internal challenge in the early 90s. It is possible that imported meat and bone meal (MBM) into Canada reached domestic cattle and led to an internal challenge in the early 90s.

A certain risk that BSE-infected cattle entered processing in Canada, and were at least partly rendered for feed, occurred in the early 1990s when cattle imported from UK in the mid 80s could have been slaughtered. This risk continued to exist, and grew significantly in the mid 90's when domestic cattle, infected by imported MBM, reached processing. Given the low stability of the system, the risk increased over the years with continued imports of cattle and MBM from BSE risk countries.

EFSA concludes that the current GBR level of Canada is III, i.e. it is confirmed at a lower level that domestic cattle are (clinically or pre-clinically) infected with the BSE-agent. As long as the system remains unstable, it is expected that the GBR continues to grow, even if no additional external challenges occur.

http://www.efsa.europa.eu/EFSA/efsa_locale-1178620753812_1211902594094.htm

Scientific Report of the European Food Safety Authority on the Assessment of the Geographical BSE Risk (GBR) of Mexico Question number: EFSA-Q-2003-083

Adopted: 1 July 2004 Summary (108 KB)

Report (168 KB)

Annex (251 KB)

Summary

The European Food Safety Authority and its Scientific Expert Working Group on the Assessment of the Geographical Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE) Risk (GBR) were asked by the European Commission (EC) to provide an up-to-date scientific report on the GBR in Mexico, i.e. the likelihood of the presence of one or more cattle being infected with BSE, pre-clinically as well as clinically, in Mexico. This scientific report addresses the GBR of Mexico as assessed in 2004 based on data covering the period 1980-2003.

The BSE agent was probably imported into Mexico and could have reached domestic cattle. These cattle imported could have been rendered and therefore led to an internal challenge in the mid to late 1990s. It is possible that imported meat and bone meal (MBM) into Mexico reached domestic cattle and leads to an internal challenge around 1993.

It is likely that BSE infectivity entered processing at the time of imported 'at - risk' MBM (1993) and at the time of slaughter of imported live 'at - risk' cattle (mid to late 1990s). The high level of external challenge is maintained throughout the reference period, and the system has not been made stable. Thus it is likely that BSE infectivity was recycled and propagated from approximately 1993. The risk has since grown consistently due to a maintained internal and external challenge and lack of a stable system.

EFSA concludes that the current geographical BSE risk (GBR) level is III, i.e. it is likely but not confirmed that domestic cattle are (clinically or pre-clinically) infected with the BSE-agent. The GBR is likely to increase due to continued internal and external challenge, coupled with a very unstable system.

Further information

Overview of GBR assessments covering 2000-2006: list of countries and their GBR level of risk (64 KB)

Published: 20 August 2004 Last updated: 8 September 2004

http://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/scdocs/scdoc/4r.htm

Wednesday, April 16, 2008

MBM, greaves, meat offal, live cattle, imports from UK to USA vs Canada

http://madcowtesting.blogspot.com/2008/04/mbm-greaves-meat-offal-live-cattle.html

Monday, November 23, 2009

BSE GBR RISK ASSESSMENTS UPDATE NOVEMBER 23, 2009 COMMISSION OF THE EUROPEAN COMMUNITIES AND O.I.E.

http://docket-aphis-2006-0041.blogspot.com/2009/11/bse-gbr-risk-assessments-update.html

MY comments/questions are as follows ;

1. SINCE the first Harvard BSE Risk Assessment was so flawed and fraught with error after the PEER REVIEW assessment assessed this fact, how do you plan on stopping this from happening again, will there be another peer review with top TSE Scientist, an impartial jury so-to-speak, to assess this new and updated Harvard BSE/TSE risk assessment and will this assessment include the Atypical TSE and SRM issues ?

*** Suppressed peer review of Harvard study October 31, 2002 ***

http://www.fsis.usda.gov/oa/topics/BSE_Peer_Review.pdf

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http://www.scribd.com/doc/1490709/USDA-200600111

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http://www.fsis.usda.gov/OPPDE/Comments/2006-0011/2006-0011-1.pdf

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http://www.regulations.gov/search/Regs/contentStreamer?objectId=090000648027c28e&disposition=attachment&contentType=pdf

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http://www.fsis.usda.gov/OPPDE/Comments/2006-0011/2006-0011-1.pdf

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Response to Public Comments on the Harvard Risk Assessment of BSE USA

RESPONSE TO COMMENTS FROM TERRY S. SINGELTARY SR. Comment #1: SINCE the first Harvard BSE Risk Assessment was so flawed and fraught ...

http://www.fsis.usda.gov/PDF/BSE_Risk_Assess_Response_Public_Comments.pdf

IT ALL STARTED, LEGALLY, RIGHT HERE ;

Docket APHIS-2006-0026 Docket Title Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy; Animal Identification and Importation of Commodities Docket Type Rulemaking Document APHIS-2006-0026-0001 Document Title Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy; Minimal-Risk Regions, Identification of Ruminants and Processing and Importation of Commodities Public Submission APHIS-2006-0026-0012 Public Submission Title Comment from Terry S Singletary

http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspublic/component/main?main=DocumentDetail&o=09000064801e47e1

Docket APHIS-2006-0041 Docket Title Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy; Minimal-Risk Regions; Importation of Live Bovines and Products Derived from Bovines Commodities Docket Type Rulemaking Document APHIS-2006-0041-0001 Document Title Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy; Minimal-Risk Regions; Importation of Live Bovines and Products Derived From Bovines Public Submission APHIS-2006-0041-0028 Public Submission Title Comment from Terry S Singletary

Comment 2006-2007 USA AND OIE POISONING GLOBE WITH BSE MRR POLICY

THE USA is in a most unique situation, one of unknown circumstances with human and animal TSE. THE USA has the most documented TSE in different species to date, with substrains growing in those species (BSE/BASE in cattle and CWD in deer and elk, there is evidence here with different strains), and we know that sheep scrapie has over 20 strains of the typical scrapie with atypical scrapie documented and also BSE is very likely to have passed to sheep. all of which have been rendered and fed back to animals for human and animal consumption, a frightening scenario. WE do not know the outcome, and to play with human life around the globe with the very likely TSE tainted products from the USA, in my opinion is like playing Russian roulette, of long duration, with potential long and enduring consequences, of which once done, cannot be undone. These are the facts as I have come to know through daily and extensive research of TSE over 9 years, since 12/14/97. I do not pretend to have all the answers, but i do know to continue to believe in the ukbsenvcjd only theory of transmission to humans of only this one strain from only this one TSE from only this one part of the globe, will only lead to further failures, and needless exposure to humans from all strains of TSE, and possibly many more needless deaths from TSE via a multitude of proven routes and sources via many studies with primates and rodents and other species.

MY personal belief, since you ask, is that not only the Canadian border, but the USA border, and the Mexican border should be sealed up tighter than a drum for exporting there TSE tainted products, until a validated, 100% sensitive test is available, and all animals for human and animal consumption are tested. all we are doing is the exact same thing the UK did with there mad cow poisoning when they exported it all over the globe, all the while knowing what they were doing. this BSE MRR policy is nothing more than a legal tool to do just exactly what the UK did, thanks to the OIE and GW, it's legal now. and they executed Saddam for poisoning ???

go figure. ...

http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspublic/component/main?main=DocumentDetail&o=09000064801f8151

Docket APHIS-2006-0041 Docket Title Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy; Minimal-Risk Regions; Importation of Live Bovines and Products Derived from Bovines Commodities Docket Type Rulemaking Document APHIS-2006-0041-0001 Document Title Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy; Minimal-Risk Regions; Importation of Live Bovines and Products Derived From Bovines Public Submission APHIS-2006-0041-0028.1 Public Submission Title Attachment to Singletary comment

January 28, 2007

Greetings APHIS,

I would kindly like to submit the following to ;

BSE; MRR; IMPORTATION OF LIVE BOVINES AND PRODUCTS DERIVED FROM BOVINES [Docket No. APHIS-2006-0041] RIN 0579-AC01

http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspublic/ContentViewer?objectId=09000064801f8152&disposition=attachment&contentType=msw8

Monday, October 26, 2009

MAD COW DISEASE, AND U.S. BEEF TRADE

MAD COW DISEASE, CJD, TSE, SOUND SCIENCE, COMMERCE, AND SELLING YOUR SOUL TO THE DEVIL

http://usdameatexport.blogspot.com/2009/10/mad-cow-disease-and-us-beef-trade.html

Greetings USDA/APHIS et al,

I would kindly like to comment on OIE proposed guidelines.

AS I said before, OIE should hang up there jock strap now, since it appears they will buckle every time a country makes some political hay about trade protocol, commodities and futures. IF they are not going to be science based, they should do everyone a favor and dissolve there organization. THE reason most every country around the globe came down with BSE/TSE in their cattle, were due to the failed and flawed BSE/TSE testing and surveillance policy of the O.I.E. NOW, they don't even acknowledge atypical scrapie it seems, as one for concern $

Monday, November 23, 2009

BSE GBR RISK ASSESSMENTS UPDATE NOVEMBER 23, 2009 COMMISSION OF THE EUROPEAN COMMUNITIES AND O.I.E.

http://docket-aphis-2006-0041.blogspot.com/2009/11/bse-gbr-risk-assessments-update.html


tss
 
Hi Everyone,

I've been asked a number of times about who were the first people I contacted about this Albertan BSE situation in the past and when. In the 23 page document I've send out you can see that I began contacting people in the Canadian government about this BSE/bone meal situation in 2000. This was three years before it surfaced in Alberta. I began late in 2004 to contact people in the Beef industry about this BSE/bone meal situation after I realised that what this Herb Cambell and Jim Wood had done was actually causing the cases of Albertan BSE. Most people who I contacted were indifferent about it as they did not know what could cause the Albertan BSE. Besides the people previously mentioned such as Cam Daniels of the Canadian Beef Federation and Steve Webster I contacted a number of people/agencies. Unfortunatly at the time there were few people online that I could find to easily be emailed the information. They for the most part were not online and I had to fax the information which was expensive because of the long distance charges.

I sent copies to the US Dept of Homeland Security as this situation effected the US foriegn beef markets. My contact there was Avery Tyler in Washington and she had the information made into a report to distribute to their intellegence community. The FBI out of Buffalo have been at my home concerning this matter. I contacted a Rancher in Southern Alberta who said he had two herds of 25,000 head and had lost $5 million in the first two years of this Albertan BSE situation. I found his name in the newspapers at the time and he was often quoted at the time. I believe I have his name and number written down in my files. I contacted Roger Antinuk of Bonnyville, Aberta who was a friend and a Cattle farmer. Unfortunately he was not online and could do little to help. This is true for most Cattle farmers as they are spread out and the most they can do is take the information to their MLAs to try to get some restitution. I contacted these people in 2004/2005, over a year before this Albertan BSE situation reached its peak number of events/year and years before it had concluded. The important thing I now know is that the timing of Albertan BSE events and number concisely match the quantity and timing in the BSE/bone meal documentation I sent out. The only way this could be true is if it was the cause of the Albertan BSE.

I've been asked what happened to this Jim Wood guy who took the BSE/bone meal out to Alberta to cause the Albertan BSE. After he returned from taking this BSE/bone meal out west in the late fall of 1998 I believe he and his cohort Herb Campbell bragged to people at this Government of Canada facility. I believe this because in January 1999 the government people at this facility had these people and their ex-government friends bodily removed from this facility. At the time I did'nt know what they had done and thought it must be something horrable.

As previously mentioned, Steve Webster after recieving the 23 page document went on 94.5 FM in Ontario to allow people to know what happened here. He did this after speaking with a Russian veternary science man with knowledge of the causes of BSE. At that same time I sent copies of the 23 page document to the Athorney General of Ontario Mikael Bryant. I asked him why the Ontario Government was getting involved helping these WTI people who had commited this act of terrorism by causing this Albertan BSE situation. I believe all the people in the Ontario Government who knew this Jim Wood told him it was only a matter of time with this Aberta BSE situation before he would be caught. The radio show allowed a lot of people to know exactly what this Jim Wood had done. There were just too many people who knew the facts behind what this guy had done. It was in 2006 that I was told that this Jim Wood had killed himself at work. I guess the thought of being paraded in front of the public as the one who caused the Albertan BSE was too much. This in light of the tens of thousands of Canadian farm families who were in the process of losing everything.

Regards,

S.R. Harrison
 
Hi All,
Flounder and I are slowly putting together a book on Albertan BSE with Factual and documents from the actual occurance of this devistating act from an Ontario, Canada research facility. No Canadian government workers were involved though, only a group of disgruntled ex-gov types were involved at an adjacent facility. The Government of Canada was actually trying to get rid of these people as few including the contractures who worked there liked them. They often seemed more involved bwith the demise of the poor workers there than getting the job at hand done! So let me put this directely- NO CANADIAN GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES WERE INVOLVED IN THIS ACTION. If they had only tried a little harder the Albertan Cattles Farmers As well as there American counterparts might of been spared! I cannot belive that the non-hodgkins has not returned. When you have unfinished bussiness of this nature I believe heaven can wait!

Kindest Regards,

S.R. Harrison
 
looks like flounder has found himself another ID..did they lose the same mother
which give away is there?????
Flounder.. where is the real proof youn even had a a mother??? much less one that died!!!
 
burnt said:
hopalong, that was cruel and completely unacceptable.


I appreciate that burnt, but sadly, it's perfectly acceptable here at ranchers.net, and it has been for a long time ;


a few examples ;



Let me guess flounder, your momma threw out the baby and kept the afterbirth



Larrry
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Joined: 23 Jul 2007
Posts: 5544
Location: The good ole USA




Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:11 pm Post subject: Re: Hey hypocrite poser ? Reply with quote


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flounder said:
hypocritexposer wrote:

How's the propaganda campaign going?

Convinced anybody yet, that they are racist if they believe in self defense, or if they don't think Michelle obama is "stunning"?

Heck, maybe that "white guilt" will help with obama's re-election campaign.....[quote





no hypocrite poser , I had to come get my daily dose of typical rebulican white racism here on ranchers.net political bull, with the same few leading the herd mentality. I do this because I can't believe sometimes we have stepped back this far. does not take me long to figure out that indeed racism is alive and well in the USA. this saddens me Sad




http://www.ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=57750


http://www.ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=57740


http://www.ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=57749


http://www.ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=57751


http://www.ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=57748


http://www.ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=57742


http://www.ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=57743


http://www.ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=57495


http://www.ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=57724


http://www.ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=57729


http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=532037


http://www.ranchers.net/forum/about53556.html


Let me guess flounder, your momma threw out the baby and kept the afterbirth




Larrry
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Joined: 23 Jul 2007
Posts: 5544
Location: The good ole USA




ALSO, here at ranchers.net/ you can also make terrorist threats towards our government officials, and it's perfectly o.k. here. this is nothing new either, just go over to political bull and take a look, ...or not.



Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:41 am Post subject: Re: Assassination Posts Reply with quote Edit/Delete this post Delete this post

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M Gravlee wrote:

The Secret Service takes assassination threats very seriously. So do we. Anyone posting that a political figure should be shot will be banned.





what about suggesting to blow a group up with a pressure cooker ???




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What the hell could those Westboro kooks be protesting?

Someone should concoct a nice little package out of a pressure cooker for them!



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http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=64711




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Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 8:19 pm Post subject: Guess the Rep's Color

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Needs to be a Low or High Tech lynching of an uppity Black State Representative.

Quote:
State Rep. Joe Mitchell, D-Mobile, had an outlandish exchange via email with a Jefferson County man who asked him and other lawmakers not to pass any laws that would restrict gun ownership.

Eddie Maxwell sent a mass email to state legislators at 10:54 p.m. on Jan. 27, warning them that even attempting to introduce a gun control bill was, in his opinion, a violation of state law.

Mitchell responded from his public, ALHouse.gov email account at 11:59 p.m., telling Maxwell: "Your folk never used all this sheit (sic) to protect my folk from your slave-holding, murdering, adulterous, baby-raping, incestuous, snaggle-toothed, backward-a**ed, inbreed (sic), imported criminal-minded kin folk."

"That's not the type of reply I expect to receive from a state legislator," Maxwell replied on Feb. 11. "I'm not a racist and I find your reply to be especially offensive considering the position you hold."








http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=64265





http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=28799&start=12





ranchers.net/ forums fell to a new low a long time ago. it's a reason why myself and others choose not to post much here anymore.



hopalong and the same few others just continue to prove the point. .... :(



kind regards,
terry
 

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