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Little Sandcheska expected this to go unchallenged since I had mentioned that I would be gone for a few days. Well, I was notified of this bullsh*t so here I am once again correcting his lies when I have much better things to do today.

This is why I believe Sandcheska is such a deceptive little puke. See for yourself how he lies, deceives, and spins every topic.

Sandcheska cannot debate at word value so he changes what was stated and argues against that.


Sandcheska: "SR, here's what I've leaned from SH;"

Sandcheska: "Anything you do for foreign customers, domestic customers will demand the same."

That is a lie. I never said ANYTHING you do for foreign customers, domestic customers will demand the same.

I said if you conduct testing on cattle under 24 months of age with a test that will not reveal prions in cattle under 24 months of age for Japan, some US consumers would justifiably ask why US cattle under 24 months of age are not also being tested.


Sandcheska: "If you allow BSE testing everybody will have to do it."

Another bold faced lie.


Sandcheska: "BSE costs will be passed down to the producers."

I said the costs of bse testing would be passed on to the producers.


Sandcheska: "BSE testing is deception"

Another bold faced lie!

I never said ALL bse testing is deception. I said bse testing cattle under 24 months of age with a test that will not reveal bse prions in cattle under 24 months of age is deception.


Sandcheska: "BSE tests can't detect BSE in animals under 30 months."

The tests creekstone planned to use would not reveal bse prions in cattle under 24 months of age. Creekstone admitted that.


Sandcheska: "Japan did not ask for testing."

I never said Japan never asked for testing. I simply asked for proof. Japan is phasing out their own 100% bse testing program.


Sandcheska: "R-CALF is a bunch of Democrats"

R-CALF is the equivalent of the democratic party of the cattle/beef industry. More government regulations. Large corporations are inherently evil. Oppose foreign trade agreements. R-CALF's agenda is carried by and promoted primarily by Democrats.


Sandcheska: "2 bidders is all the competiton you need"

Another bold faced lie.

What I said that it only takes 2 bidders to have competition. I never said that's all the competition you need.

I said we have 5 major packers bidding on the same cattle. I said I would rather have 5 major packers with deep pockets bidding on my cattle rather than 100 packers who needed a $40 per head margin to keep their doors open.


Sandcheska: "Requiring BSE testing is a trade barrier"

In the case of Japan, a requirement for 100% bse testing, WHICH THEY HAVE NOW GONE AWAY FROM, could be considered a non tarriff trade barrier.


Sandcheska: "R-CALF can write laws and close international borders"

I never made that exact statement. More spin!

Leo McDonnell claims to have written the "M"COOL law.

R-CULT's injunction against the USDA did temporarily halt canadian live cattle imports.


Sandcheska: "The packers can't verticly integrate the beef industry because they would have to buy land"

I said the cattle industry could not be vertically integrated LIKE THE POULTRY AND PORK INDUSTRIES because it takes a lot more equity to vertically integrate the cattle industry than the pork and poultry industries. I said the equity in the cattle industry is on the producer side, not the packer side. I also said there is more integration occurring in the cattle industry from producers investing in packing companies than in packing companies investing in land, livestock and machinery.


Sandcheska: "Consolitation is a sign of competition."

Never said that either. What I said is that competition leads to consolidation. Anyone can just look at the world around them and see how most industries are dominated by 3 or 4 major companies and consilidation is occuring all around us. That's why K-mart and Sears recently merged.

K-Mart, Shopko, Target, Walmart
Ford, Chevy, Dodge
McDonalds, Wendy's, Burger King, Hardees
Remington, Winchester, Ruger, Savage
Pepsi, Coke
Anheiser Busch, Coors, Miller brewing
Home Depot, Lowes, Mennards

The list goes on and on and on


Sandcheska: "Packers can segregate every package of organic beef, but they can't do the same with COOL"

Another bold faced lie.

I never said packers cannot trace beef. What I said was that packers cannot meet the legal requirements of "M"COOL without an enforceable traceback system.


Sandcheska: "No Congressmen are paid off"

Another bold faced lie.

Never said that. I simply asked for proof that Congressmen are being paid off in regards to their positions on packer concentration and captive supplies which LYING KING claims is happening.


Sandcheska: "He has never been refuted nor proven wrong"

Another bold faced lie! That's not what I said. What I said is that you, Little Sandcheska, have not proven me wrong on anything I have stated in regards to cattle/beef issues WITH FACTS TO THE CONTRARY.

All you do is deceive like you have done here and issue chickensh*t challenges.


Sandcheska: "Bankers should not give advice, but also should not loan money to buy cattle when prices are high"

Another bold faced lie! What I said is that producers should take advise from a banker with a pound of salt. I also said bankers tend to throw money at cattle when cattle prices are high.


Sandcheska: "The Japanese don't want tested beef because they know tested beef is deception"

Yet another bold faced lie!

What I said is that consumers expect bse tested beef to be bse free. If they buy bse tested beef from cattle under 24 months of age from a test that will not reveal bse prions in cattle under 24 months of age, that is deception.


Sandcheska: "GIPSA is about competition between packers"

Another lie!


Sandcheska: "Mike Callicrate is guilty of perjury."

Mike Callicrate is a compulsive liar. Mike Callicrate lied under oath in Pickett vs. IBP. Judge Strom instructed the jurors to disregard his testimony because he found it to be untrue. Unfortunately Mike Callicrate was not brought up on perjury charges.

Why do I call Mike a compulsive liar?

Mike said ibp had contractual arrangements with other packers. That was a lie.

Mike said packers and retailers were making "HUGE" $400 per head profits off the backs of US producers. That was a lie.

Mike said Tyson dismissed black jurors in Pickett because they were black. That was a lie.

Mike said ibp stepped out of the cash market for 8 weeks. That was a lie.

Mike said he would answer my questions if I revealed my identity. I did and he didn't. That was a lie!

Mike Callicrate is a compulsive liar.


Sandcheska: "SRM removal assures safety."

The OIE accepts that SRM removal, the ruminant feed ban, and increased bse surveilance testing will eventually eliminate bse.


Sandcheska: "R-CALF is isolationist"

R-CALF filed an injunction against USDA to stop Canadian imports using bse as a convenient excuse. STUPID!

R-CALF opposed NAFTA and CAFTA.

R-CALF's idea of trade is to stop imports and exand exports.


Sandcheska: "R-CALF has no credibility in Washington"

To anyone who has researched the facts on these issues, R-CALF has no credibility.

After reading this volley of lies and deception, you can see why!

Well, now I hope everyone can see why I have such a low tolerance level of deceptive little snakes like Sandcheska. With this post, he has reached the same integrity level as the Lying King. I wouldn't piss on either one of them if they were on fire because I absolutely hate liars.



Better address this too while I'm at it......

F'ed up: "As far as what I learned from Sh!thead, lets see: He constantly tries to 'teach' us how to do everything he 'accuses' this forum of doing. He whines, cries, cusses, diverts, beats his chest, ignores any written material submitted in an argument, & is a genuine @sshole & a proven liar!"

Translation: I am a packer blamer. I don't base my decisions on factual information. I need to blame. SH is not a packer blamer. He bases his decisions on factual information. I can't refute what he says so I'll just call him a liar and attempt to discredit anyone that says something I don't want to believe. It's easier for me to call SH a liar than actually prove it so that's what I'll do.

That pretty well covers F'ed up!

F'ed up CLAIMS I'm a "PROVEN LIAR" which makes him a proven liar because he hasn't proven anything of the sort but he has his chance right now to back this allegation.

Did anyone see F'ed up back this allegation??? Of course you didn't and you won't either because talk is cheap from most packer blaming blow hards. If this place has proven anything it's that.

I'm glad readers were subjected to F'ed up's crash course on posting etiquette (sp?). Hahaha.

Ooops, just rained on the blow hard's little walk in the blamer's park again didn't I? Oh well!



~SH~
 
Within that post there is 10 statements I would consider out and out lies. The other statements I will consider simple deception and spin.

Look what the world is coming to!



~SH~
 
How do you know what you said and didn't say months ago when you just proved you couldn't remember what you said less than 4 hours previous?

Go away. Circus season around here is in the summer.
 
Sandhusker said:
How do you know what you said and didn't say months ago when you just proved you couldn't remember what you said less than 4 hours previous?

Go away. Circus season around here is in the summer.


So are you waiting for warm weather or are you going to prove your case?????????
 
mwj said:
Sandhusker said:
How do you know what you said and didn't say months ago when you just proved you couldn't remember what you said less than 4 hours previous?

Go away. Circus season around here is in the summer.


So are you waiting for warm weather or are you going to prove your case?????????

I've already put in more time than he's worth. You can't prove anything to SH, he won't accept it - not even his own quotes. Call me a liar and be his desciple if you want - it's your loss.
 
Sandhusker said:
mwj said:
Sandhusker said:
How do you know what you said and didn't say months ago when you just proved you couldn't remember what you said less than 4 hours previous?

Go away. Circus season around here is in the summer.


So are you waiting for warm weather or are you going to prove your case?????????

I've already put in more time than he's worth. You can't prove anything to SH, he won't accept it - not even his own quotes. Call me a liar and be his desciple if you want - it's your loss.

There are times when after the prosecution has presented its case that the defense gets up and rests their case without saying anything. This is usually because there really wasn't anything in the prosecutions case to begin with. It's evidentiary paucity is ipso facto.

So, Sandhusker, rest your case!
 
Just seems strange when people cry about all of the mistruths on the board but do not want to be bothered to back a position.
 
mwj said:
Just seems strange when people cry about all of the mistruths on the board but do not want to be bothered to back a position.

mwj-- If you'd have seen presentation of the entire case you'd be tying the knot in ~SH~'s noose......Unless you sat on OJ's jury :wink:
 
Ya know Sh!tHead, you talk more and say less than anyone I know. :roll: :roll: :roll:

This says it all!

Sh!tHead writes: "I am very well aware of every facet of this industry."

Sh!tHead writes, "First, I never pretended to know every facet of the industry and I never made that claim. :liar: :oops:
 
The problem with him is that he thinks he knows all there is to know and the rest are nothing but liars. It appears as if the psychosis has worsened!! Oh well, nothing that some serious therapy and some heavy meds won't cure.

Ooops, now he will quote me and call me a liar or maybe worse. Woe is me. Look at me, I am scared of a circus chicken!! :roll: :-) :D :o :shock: 8) :???: :( :wink: :wink:
 
Maybe you should all start a thread to prove him wrong. Pick a subject and bring facts that prove him wrong. It should be easy for you guys to do and would be very entertaining and educational. Using terms like ''cheap imported trim'' should not be used if in fact they cost more than domestic cow trim :lol:
 
Oldtimer said:
mwj said:
Just seems strange when people cry about all of the mistruths on the board but do not want to be bothered to back a position.

mwj-- If you'd have seen presentation of the entire case you'd be tying the knot in ~SH~'s noose......Unless you sat on OJ's jury :wink:



Oldtimer I have kept up with this for a long time. I did not reg. till it went to the new style board .
 
Proving him wrong???

Quote:

?Maybe you should all start a thread to prove him wrong. Pick a subject and bring facts that prove him wrong. It should be easy for you guys to do and would be very entertaining and educational. Using terms like ''cheap imported trim'' should not be used if in fact they cost more than domestic cow trim."

Why waste our time????
 
When someone makes a statement on this forum, Sh!tHead says "prove it". When Sh!tHead makes a statement he says, "prove me wrong". I'd like to know where in the forum rules, that it states the burden of proof is on everyone except Sh!tHead!

I cannot remember a time when Sh!tHead has brought proof to this forum to prove anyone wrong! He tried to prove something once with actual proof besides his big mouth, & donated $100 to R-Calf as a result.
You could not prove the pope was a catholic to that fool & why should anyone try! The fact that he is a proven idiot & liar, has been proved many times, by his own hand! Prove me wrong!
 
fedup2 said:
When someone makes a statement on this forum, Sh!tHead says "prove it". When Sh!tHead makes a statement he says, "prove me wrong". I'd like to know where in the forum rules, that it states the burden of proof is on everyone except Sh!tHead!

I cannot remember a time when Sh!tHead has brought proof to this forum to prove anyone wrong! He tried to prove something once with actual proof besides his big mouth, & donated $100 to R-Calf as a result.
You could not prove the pope was a catholic to that fool & why should anyone try! The fact that he is a proven idiot & liar, has been proved many times, by his own hand! Prove me wrong!
Fedup, check your keyboard. I think it is malfunctioning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SR
 
Sandhusker said:
SR said:
Jason, I believe you are correct. Tim H's tag line kinda sums it up. SR

I didn't catch your answer when I asked you to name some of those things you claim you learned from SH.
Well Sandhusker we both went thru this class together and if you have not been able to understand it over the last two years I am pretty confident that I would not be able to make it any clearer for you with my limited abilities. Perhaps you should just re read all the material already gone over in you and SH's last 5,000 or so posts. Merry Christmas SR
 

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