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Nicky

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Our friends calve out some cows and heifers for a small PB breeder here locally. One of the first calvers has weird feet...the one toe is really wide and the other really small. Her calf apparently had multiple toes (I only saw a not very good picture on Jim's phone). The breeder said he'd heard that other people (don't know who) had calves born with extra legs and they think it is related to this toe thing.

Anyone know anything about it?
 
Yes could be.... Can you find out the angus breeding? Is it anything like we had last year Nicky? Or could be just a fluke.... :D Nothing wrong in asking, there's a ton of knowledge here on this board. Just havta sort through the bs....








Just teasing!!!!!!!! :P
 
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Nicky this might interest you....From what I understand there have been some calves in both Australia and the States showing up with multiple legs...

It is being called Notomelia- and Dr. Jon Beever, University of Illinois (as well as the Australian Vets) are doing DNA testing to try and find a common denominator...
Photos, ancestry if known, and blood or tissue for DNA extraction should be taken and reported to America Angus Association and Dr. Beever...

An Australian article:
http://www.flockandherd.net.au/cattle/reader/polymelia.html
 
Had three calves born 20 years ago that had three toes on each of their front feet. We knew who the sire was and contacted the angus rep in our area at that time, who was Jim Shirley. They tested the calves for parentage so they could be sure on the sire, and they called the condition polydactly,(I don't know if I spelled that right) and it means having three toes. The angus association has a guarntee against syndactly, which is one toe, but not for the other. The bulls bloodlines all came from Paul Myland's herd in MT. and the bull we bought came from a cow purchased from him. We have never seen it since from any other angus bull or from any of his daughters.
 
Very interesting.

We know Kevin Mytty and I would safely say you could call him and
talk to him about it--or I guess the people with the odd-toed calf
could call and talk to him. Mytty in Focus has been used more than a
thousand times over; this is the first I had ever heard of this. It could
come from cows side, perhaps.

Let me know if you need his phone number or you could probably
get it off his website. We are friends with a purebred Angus breeder
here and I will visit with him about this subject. He doesn't use any
In Focus or Fame bloodlines. Maybe there's a reason....
 
Faster horses said:
Very interesting.

We know Kevin Mytty and I would safely say you could call him and
talk to him about it--or I guess the people with the odd-toed calf
could call and talk to him. Mytty in Focus has been used more than a
thousand times over; this is the first I had ever heard of this. It could
come from cows side, perhaps.

Let me know if you need his phone number or you could probably
get it off his website. We are friends with a purebred Angus breeder
here and I will visit with him about this subject. He doesn't use any
In Focus or Fame bloodlines. Maybe there's a reason....
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I bought a Fame son one time and didn't get a calf off him. Something about granulation of the DNA in the semen. :?

Had a bit of a time getting my money back one the bull as well. :roll:
 
It's not our calf, belongs to a PB guy here in Baker. Our neighbors calve out some cows for him. Lori said the owner seemed quite positive that In Focus was the cause...so he must know about some others.
 
Just one more observation, but I have seen In Focus calves, and a couple hundred; and In Focus daughters offspring, probably 60 or 70.
I'd sure look on the dam's side first. I know the herd where the daughters are, and they have seen way more grand-kids than I have.
 
Sometimes in nature stuff happens no blame should be placed on one individual just because it's easy to blame. Were haveing our worst calveing year ever. The vet and I just got done pulling an upside down head back calf it was dead. Sunday we had 4 calves 1st one hip locked and must have caused some internal issue calf died this morning never would get up.Next two born dead. 4th calf ended up darting the wild S.O.B. and pulled a dead 150# calf out of a 1st calf heifer.My wife want's one bull shipped because his calves have been the trouble group but is been mispresentations that have been our major issue.

When I was a kid we had hogs one had a litter of piglets all normal except one was about 3 times larger than the rest and born dead. Same boar same sow.
 
Big Swede said:
Wow Denny that's rough, hang in there. My heifers started 2 days ago and have 17 on the ground without a hitch. Knock on wood.
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But you are rushing things, Big Swede. It's only early April don't forget. :wink:

Sorry to hear of the calving troubles, Denny. That sure takes the fun out of things. We evidently had a big birthweight bull in with our three-year-old cows last year, as we've pulled more out of them than we have from our two-year-olds. The Kosmo Kid fished a calf out of a cow yesterday, that had both front feet coming with the head down and back. He said the only way he was able to get the head coming out was by putting his fingers in the eye sockets to get more leverage. His method worked, as the calf survived the ordeal.
 
I know Soapweed I know but my due date is the 16th. I'm guessing I'll be done by about then. Gotta love those short gestation heifer bulls. :lol: 8) [/quote]
 

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