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Korea Stops U.S. Beef Imports After USDA Withholds Information on Latest Mad Cow Case
From: <http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/biz/200604/kt2006040519470011910.htm>
Korea Times - South Korea

US Holds Infomation on Mad Cow Case

SEOUL (Yonhap) ? The United States has failed to provide the date of birth
of a cow linked to a third case of mad cow disease on its shores, a matter
that could jeopardize Seoul's resumption of American beef imports, the
government said Wednesday.

The Ministry of Agriculture and Forestry said Washington forwarded
information on the cow Friday but gave no conclusive evidence to indicate
its age.

``The data contained expert testimonies by veterinarians, but we cannot
determine for certain if the cow was born before April 1998,'' said Park
Hyun-chul, head of the ministry's livestock bureau.

The date is significant because if the animal was born after this date,
South Korea could halt all efforts to renew imports of American beef. The
date is when new measures to prevent mad cow disease went into full effect
in the United States.

In March, Washington confirmed the discovery of a third case of bovine
spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), better known as mad cow disease. Seoul
placed an import ban on American beef after the first BSE case was
discovered in 2003.

Park said Seoul has asked for additional information and could send South
Korean inspectors to directly check the evidence.

The official said that because of the lack of information, the exact date
for the resumption of American beef imports cannot currently be predicted.
The imports were originally expected to hit the market in early May.
``At this moment, we are not saying that we will not resume the imports of
American beef. But it remains hard to say exactly when the imports will
resume,'' a ministry official said on condition of anonymity.

Seoul and Washington agreed early this year to allow American beef back into
the country.
04-05-2006

 

[Bill]

Korea Stops U.S. Beef Imports After USDA Withholds Information on Latest Mad Cow Case
From: <http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/biz/200604/kt2006040519470011910.htm>
Korea Times - South Korea

US Holds Infomation on Mad Cow Case

SEOUL (Yonhap) ? The United States has failed to provide the date of birth
of a cow linked to a third case of mad cow disease on its shores, a matter
that could jeopardize Seoul's resumption of American beef imports, the
government said Wednesday.

The Ministry of Agriculture and Forestry said Washington forwarded
information on the cow Friday but gave no conclusive evidence to indicate
its age.

``The data contained expert testimonies by veterinarians, but we cannot
determine for certain if the cow was born before April 1998,'' said Park
Hyun-chul, head of the ministry's livestock bureau.

The date is significant because if the animal was born after this date,
South Korea could halt all efforts to renew imports of American beef. The
date is when new measures to prevent mad cow disease went into full effect
in the United States.
In March, Washington confirmed the discovery of a third case of bovine
spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), better known as mad cow disease. Seoul
placed an import ban on American beef after the first BSE case was
discovered in 2003.

Park said Seoul has asked for additional information and could send South
Korean inspectors to directly check the evidence.

The official said that because of the lack of information, the exact date
for the resumption of American beef imports cannot currently be predicted.
The imports were originally expected to hit the market in early May.
``At this moment, we are not saying that we will not resume the imports of
American beef. But it remains hard to say exactly when the imports will
resume,'' a ministry official said on condition of anonymity.

Seoul and Washington agreed early this year to allow American beef back into
the country.
04-05-2006

Hey Sandhusker and Oldtimer.

D'ya think maybe the first American post feed-ban BSE case has already happened? :roll:

 

[Anonymous]

Korea Stops U.S. Beef Imports After USDA Withholds Information on Latest Mad Cow Case
From: <http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/biz/200604/kt2006040519470011910.htm>
Korea Times - South Korea

US Holds Infomation on Mad Cow Case

SEOUL (Yonhap) ? The United States has failed to provide the date of birth
of a cow linked to a third case of mad cow disease on its shores, a matter
that could jeopardize Seoul's resumption of American beef imports, the
government said Wednesday.

The Ministry of Agriculture and Forestry said Washington forwarded
information on the cow Friday but gave no conclusive evidence to indicate
its age.

``The data contained expert testimonies by veterinarians, but we cannot
determine for certain if the cow was born before April 1998,'' said Park
Hyun-chul, head of the ministry's livestock bureau.

The date is significant because if the animal was born after this date,
South Korea could halt all efforts to renew imports of American beef. The
date is when new measures to prevent mad cow disease went into full effect
in the United States.
In March, Washington confirmed the discovery of a third case of bovine
spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), better known as mad cow disease. Seoul
placed an import ban on American beef after the first BSE case was
discovered in 2003.

Park said Seoul has asked for additional information and could send South
Korean inspectors to directly check the evidence.

The official said that because of the lack of information, the exact date
for the resumption of American beef imports cannot currently be predicted.
The imports were originally expected to hit the market in early May.
``At this moment, we are not saying that we will not resume the imports of
American beef. But it remains hard to say exactly when the imports will
resume,'' a ministry official said on condition of anonymity.

Seoul and Washington agreed early this year to allow American beef back into
the country.
04-05-2006

Hey Sandhusker and Oldtimer.

D'ya think maybe the first American post feed-ban BSE case has already happened? :roll:

Nope!! Its just more of the stick it to the US games that all our so-called " trading partners" try to pull-- Kind of like Canadas "ALL US cattle are diseased" BS they pulled for 10 years......

 

[Bill]

Korea Stops U.S. Beef Imports After USDA Withholds Information on Latest Mad Cow Case
From: <http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/biz/200604/kt2006040519470011910.htm>
Korea Times - South Korea

US Holds Infomation on Mad Cow Case

SEOUL (Yonhap) ? The United States has failed to provide the date of birth
of a cow linked to a third case of mad cow disease on its shores, a matter
that could jeopardize Seoul's resumption of American beef imports, the
government said Wednesday.

The Ministry of Agriculture and Forestry said Washington forwarded
information on the cow Friday but gave no conclusive evidence to indicate
its age.

``The data contained expert testimonies by veterinarians, but we cannot
determine for certain if the cow was born before April 1998,'' said Park
Hyun-chul, head of the ministry's livestock bureau.

The date is significant because if the animal was born after this date,
South Korea could halt all efforts to renew imports of American beef. The
date is when new measures to prevent mad cow disease went into full effect
in the United States.
In March, Washington confirmed the discovery of a third case of bovine
spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), better known as mad cow disease. Seoul
placed an import ban on American beef after the first BSE case was
discovered in 2003.

Park said Seoul has asked for additional information and could send South
Korean inspectors to directly check the evidence.

The official said that because of the lack of information, the exact date
for the resumption of American beef imports cannot currently be predicted.
The imports were originally expected to hit the market in early May.
``At this moment, we are not saying that we will not resume the imports of
American beef. But it remains hard to say exactly when the imports will
resume,'' a ministry official said on condition of anonymity.

Seoul and Washington agreed early this year to allow American beef back into
the country.
04-05-2006

Hey Sandhusker and Oldtimer.

D'ya think maybe the first American post feed-ban BSE case has already happened? :roll:

Nope!! Its just more of the stick it to the US games that all our so-called " trading partners" try to pull-- Kind of like Canadas "ALL US cattle are diseased" BS they pulled for 10 years......

Nope? :roll: :roll:

Reminds me of all the crowing R-Calf did after Canada's first BSE case and the WHOOPS.....guess what.......the US had one too!

Next it was......"well ours wasn't home grown" the WHOOPS......there it was....A US home grown case.

Now its....."well...but...but...just look...look at Canada's cases born after the feed ban".............then WOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fools never learn! :roll:

Oldtimer, I read this post of yours on Cattle Today:

OldtimerQuote:
And until we close all these loopholes we should not be importing beef and live cattle from countries that have much higher rates of BSE- namely Japan and Canada....

2centsworth
Quote:
Are you kidding? "Much" higher levels than the United States? Maybe you need another math class, but there is not much difference between the US' 3 cases and Canada's 5 cases. Even Japan at, what are they now, 26 cases? is not "high" considering they test every animal. How many would the US come up with if they tested every animal?




Actually your numbers are wrong- Canada has 6 "origin" cases and the US has 2 in a cattle population 8 times that of Canadas -- but 3 of Canadas are POST feedban showing that its infectivity and spread has not been identified or halted...

Japan has 26- but in a very small cattle population....And now they have one that is 20 months old that may throw a monkeywrench into all the works.....

How many would the US have if we had tested all ? I have no idea- but it is what we should have done from day one in both countries when it was found...Tested all- found the TRUE extent of the infection- closed ALL feed ban loopholes and treated this as a serious health and long term industry threat- rather than USDA's and CFIA's pooh-poohing it away...What has it been- 3-4 years now since this started and we still have no real answers on extent of infection or source of infections, with no real foreign markets opened up and the consumer confidence is waning rather than growing....

Creekstone and those packers that wanted to test should have been allowed to.....

How many years do you sit on your duff? We should have learned from Englands mistakes- but we didn't.......

"with no real foreign markets opened up and the consumer confidence is waning rather than growing...."

I wonder which US based cattle producer group has been kicking the most dust and can take credit for consumer confidence waning rather than growing? Your words Oldtimer.

The vote results should be soon in from their membership so R-Calf can once again force beef into the courtroom and the press!

 

[Anonymous]

Bill- I imagine that will be the next thing USDA will need to "find"- a post feed ban positive- to keep the playing field equal for the Corporate world!!

As long as you were posting items from cattletoday why didn't you post this one-- showing how the Canadian BSE problem was being played out to US consumers......If this National Announcer can figure out their is a problem, so will the consumers.......

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As I typed this the news article on Canada's 6th cow was on Paul Harvey News on the radio...They made a big deal about the fact of the age of this cow and that it was born 3 years after the feed ban that was supposed to protect cattle from being infected...The final statement of the announcer filling in for Paul was that it made many wonder if feed companies or ranchers in Canada were cheating on the feedban!!!

We need Mandatory Country of Origin Labeling!!!

 

[don]

can't be a post feedban case in the states because the so-called feedban has so many loopholes in it that nothing is really banned. they tried to conveniently age the cow at ten years and get rid of her before anyone could prove otherwise. the reason these borders stay closed to american beef is because the whole world knows you're running a crooked show down there. heck, if it wasn't for the big packers having as much influence here as there the canadian border would be closed to you too.

 

[Sandhusker]

Get 'em over here, let them look at the flippin head, and let's move on!

 

[Big Muddy rancher]

Can't Old timer read the brands to tell how old the cow was?

 

[Mike]

Santa Gertrubis cattle don't show their age as early as other cattle. :lol:

 

[Bill]

can't be a post feedban case in the states because the so-called feedban has so many loopholes in it that nothing is really banned. they tried to conveniently age the cow at ten years and get rid of her before anyone could prove otherwise. the reason these borders stay closed to american beef is because the whole world knows you're running a crooked show down there. heck, if it wasn't for the big packers having as much influence here as there the canadian border would be closed to you too.

That's what really gets me. We keep taking the barbs and comments from R-Calf and their puppets about Canada ENDANGERING the US beef supply, US consumers, the US herd and US foreign markets while it actually the reverse which is true.

 

[RoperAB]

Leslie Friedlander repeated a claim he has made before that cases of bovine
spongiform encephalopathy surfaced in the U.S. long before the disease
showed up in Canada, devastating this country's beef industry.

Friedlander, who was fired from his job as head of inspections at a
meat-packing plant in Philadelphia in 1995 after criticizing what he called
unsafe practices, says he's willing to take a lie detector test to prove he
is telling the truth.

Washington has denied the allegations.

But the testimony raises a question that has been asked many times: how the
U.S. industry has been able to essentially escape BSE when Canada's much
smaller industry, observing almost identical safety and testing practices,
has had four cases.

CBC investigation probes case in New York

Part of the answer could be in a slaughterhouse in Oriskany Falls, N.Y.,
which eight years ago may have become the home of the first American case of
mad cow.

Bobby Godfrey, who worked at the plant, remembers a cow that arrived one
day.

"I thought it was a mad dog, to tell you the truth," he told CBC's
Investigative Unit. "Didn't know what the hell it was. Never seen a cow act
like that in all the cows I saw go through there. There was definitely
something wrong with it."

The suspect cow, which was recorded on video obtained by CBC News, was
suspected of being the first American case of BSE.

Dr. Masuo Doi was the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) veterinarian in
charge of investigating the cow.

"Me and my vet, including our inspector, they thought it [the cow] was quite
different. They thought it was the BSE," he said.

Doi, who recently retired from the U.S. Department of Agriculture, says he's
haunted by fears the right tests were not done and that the case was not
properly investigated by his own department.

"I don't want to carry on off to my retirement. I want to hand it over to
someone to continue, to find out. I think it's very, very important," said
Doi, who has never spoken out publicly about his concerns, until now.

Validity of tests called into question

Documents obtained by CBC News show that the U.S. government was preparing
for the worst. Initial signs pointed to mad cow disease. But further tests
were negative.

The final conclusion from an independent university lab: a rare brain
disorder never reported in that breed of cattle either before or since, but
not BSE.

But CBC News has learned that key areas of the brain were never tested. The
most important samples somehow went missing.

It's all in a USDA lab report that was left out of the documents officially
released by the department. It proves the scientist in charge knew his
investigation of the case was limited.

Without the samples, the question remains: Could scientists really rule out
mad cow disease?

Dr. Karl Langheindrich was the chief scientist at a USDA lab in Athens, Ga.,
the lab that ran some of the early tests on the cow. Now retired, he too
never spoke publicly about this case before being interviewed by CBC.



Without the missing brain tissue, he says, the USDA will never be able to
say for sure what was wrong with the cow.

"Based on the clinical symptoms and the description given by the
veterinarian you can verify, yes this animal had CNS, central nervous system
disease, but you can't specify it in your findings further than that," he
said.

Second suspected case surfaces at same plant

With questions about the first cow still lingering, three months later at
the same meat plant there was a second American cow with suspicious
symptoms.

The second cow's brain was sent for testing and officials were told verbally
the tests were negative.

Doi made repeated requests for documentary proof of the negative tests. To
this day, he's seen nothing.

"How many are buried?" he wonders. "Can you really trust our inspection
[system?]

For weeks, the USDA told CBC that it had no records for the second cow. Then
just a few days ago, it suddenly produced documents that it says proves that
a cow was tested and that the tests were negative for mad cow disease.

But the documents also prove, once again, there were problems with the
testing. This time, so much brain tissue was missing it compromised the
examination.

The problems were so severe that one USDA scientist wrote that his own
examination was of "questionable validity" because he couldn't tell what
part of the cow's brain he was looking at.
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