Another type of land grab in the making

[Traveler]

http://www.tsln.com/news/11436261-113/tribal-park-national-government

" Affected ranchers are against it. Residents of the Pass Creek District are against it. Members of the Red Shirt Community are against it. The Great Sioux Nation Treaty Council, which is something like a group of advisors to the various tribal governments, is against it.

But on the Pine Ridge Reservation in South Dakota, 1,000 head of paper buffalo are relentless in their march to the proposed Stronghold Grazing Unit on the proposed Tribal National Park. The Tribal National Park would be created from the 133,000-acre South Unit and include some land that is currently being leased by both native and non-native ranchers in the area. It would be the nation's first Tribal National Park, and would require Congressional action to authorize. The idea is supported by the tribal council of the Oglala Sioux Tribe, including President Bryan Brewer, and the National Park Service."

 

[Traveler]

I think that tribal council may be about to outsmart itself in what will turn out to be a land grab by the National Parks Service. Natives everywhere are so damn trusting of anything to do with a Dimocrap administration.

 

[Big Muddy rancher]

So would the tribe charge at the gate of the park to make up the revenue lost from using the land?

 

[Anonymous]

So would the tribe charge at the gate of the park to make up the revenue lost from using the land?

You bet- and within the boundaries of a sovereign nation they could set up Casinos and all kinds of tribal only run business's... Right now the tribes and senior citizens run buses back and forth to the Four Bears Casino, lodge, and resort- and you wouldn't believe the number of old fahts that head down there every few months....

 

[TSR]

No O'timer once a month, the same here with them going to Tunica MS, but I guess its their money.

 

[Anonymous]

No O'timer once a month, the same here with them going to Tunica MS, but I guess its their money.

Yep- you bet-- and its nice to see the economy recovering nice enough since the Bush Bust for all these folks to again enjoy their golden years.. :wink:

 

[Big Muddy rancher]

So would the tribe charge at the gate of the park to make up the revenue lost from using the land?

You bet- and within the boundaries of a sovereign nation they could set up Casinos and all kinds of tribal only run business's... Right now the tribes and senior citizens run buses back and forth to the Four Bears Casino, lodge, and resort- and you wouldn't believe the number of old fahts that head down there every few months....

It doesn't need to be made into a National Park for a Casino does it?

 

[Anonymous]

So would the tribe charge at the gate of the park to make up the revenue lost from using the land?

You bet- and within the boundaries of a sovereign nation they could set up Casinos and all kinds of tribal only run business's... Right now the tribes and senior citizens run buses back and forth to the Four Bears Casino, lodge, and resort- and you wouldn't believe the number of old fahts that head down there every few months....

It doesn't need to be made into a National Park for a Casino does it?

Nope- but a National Park draws tourists which would then spend more money in the Lodges and Casinos...

 

[Martin Jr.]

I am not sure this will go. The Indians have always avoided tourism, not wanting more whites on their land, but keeping it for themselves.

A Casino on the Border of Nebraska and South Dakota is different.
A while back they were turning back trucks that were going to the oil fields north that stopped at their Casino and gas station, not wanting them on even that small part of their land, because they opposed the pipeline.
They lost some business over that.

 

[Traveler]

So would the tribe charge at the gate of the park to make up the revenue lost from using the land?

You bet- and within the boundaries of a sovereign nation they could set up Casinos and all kinds of tribal only run business's... Right now the tribes and senior citizens run buses back and forth to the Four Bears Casino, lodge, and resort- and you wouldn't believe the number of old fahts that head down there every few months....

A quick search reveals a casino already exists. http://www.prairiewindcasino.com/contact/directions Did you read the article? None of the concerns seem valid? Just root for more government taking of land?

"May and others say they would be more agreeable to the proposal if it didn't look like the U.S. government extracting a final concession from the tribe for lands that are rightfully theirs. "They're calling this a Tribal National Park. I say we're giving this land to the National Park Service. I keep saying 'the National Park Service has never given anything back,'" May said. " How we can we talk about getting the Black Hills back when we're giving them all this land now?"

In the 1990s, the Badlands National Park superintendent William Supernaugh rejected the tribe's demands to regain ownership of the South Unit of the Badlands by threatening to shut off the yearly payment from the North Unit, which sees a great deal more revenue from tourism. In 2013 that payment was $679,283.59. Under the new proposal, the tribe would voluntarily give that up, would cease to collect grazing fees, and the land would still be property of the U.S. government. "There's no guarantee of revenue for the foreseeable future in this deal," says May".

 

[Tam]

No O'timer once a month, the same here with them going to Tunica MS, but I guess its their money.

Yep- you bet-- and its nice to see the economy recovering nice enough since the Bush Bust for all these folks to again enjoy their golden years.. :wink:

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Obama's Numbers (January 2014 Update)

Latest statistics show stagnant wages, persistent long-term joblessness, soaring profits and stock prices, and moderating health care spending.
Posted on January 15, 2014 | Corrected on January 21, 2014

As we do every three months, we are updating our "Obama's Numbers" report with fresh statistics reflecting what has happened since the president first took office.

Some highlights from this round:
The economy continues to gain jobs, but the number of long-term unemployed is nearly double what it was when Obama became president.
Wages remain stagnant, increasing a scant 0.3 percent after inflation during Obama's time. Meanwhile corporate profits are running 178 percent higher than just before he took office, and stock prices have doubled.
The number of low-income persons on food stamps remains just below the record level reached in 2012, with 15 percent of the population still getting benefits.
Health care spending has increased 15.8 percent under Obama, which is faster than inflation but modest by historical standards. But there's scant evidence that the Affordable Care Act is causing the slowdown. The government economists and statisticians who track the spending said the law's impact has been "minimal."
U.S. exports have gone up just 34 percent — leaving the president far short of his announced goal of doubling them by the end of this year.
The number of people held prisoner at Guantanamo — which the president once ordered closed by January 2010 — is down only 36 percent.
The federal debt owed to the public has nearly doubled since Obama was sworn in, increasing by 95 percent.

The New York Times delivers some news so grim that it had to cook the headline to hide it: "Median Household Income Down 7.3% Since Start of Recession."

Well, yes, but as the Times reluctantly admits in the very last paragraph of the story, 5.6 percent of that decline has occurred since the Obama "recovery" began. And median annual household income just fell by 1.1 percent in a single month – February 2013 – after the Obama "recovery" has supposedly been in progress for years. That's after $6 trillion in deficit spending to "stimulate" the economy, supposedly for the benefit of the average household.

Yep Oldtimer things are so much better under your hero Obama. :roll: