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To: National Desk, Health and Agriculture Reporters


Contact: Ben Lilliston of Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy, 612-870-3416


MINNEAPOLIS, April 5 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Brand name chicken products sold in American supermarkets and fast food restaurants are widely contaminated with arsenic, according to independent test results released today by the Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy (IATP).


Testing of 155 samples from uncooked supermarket chicken products found 55 percent carried detectable arsenic. Arsenic was more than twice as prevalent in conventional brands of supermarket chicken as in certified organic and other "premium" brands. All 90 fast food chicken products tested by IATP also contained detectable arsenic. The full report can be read at: http://www.iatp.org.


Arsenic in chicken meat appears closely linked to the decades-old practice of intentionally and routinely putting arsenic into chicken feed. At least 70 percent of U.S. broiler chickens have been fed arsenic, according to estimates.


"Adding arsenic to chicken feed is a needless and ultimately avoidable practice that only exposes more people to more of this ancient poison," said Dr. David Wallinga, a physician, author of Playing Chicken: Avoiding Arsenic in Your Meat, and director of IATP's Food and Health program.


"There is good news. Consumers can limit or eliminate their arsenic intake in chicken by making smart choices about which chicken to buy," said Wallinga. "Our testing found plenty of supermarket chicken without any detectable arsenic. Birds sold under organic labels can't legally be given arsenic. For other chicken, your best bet is to directly ask for some assurance from the producer, supermarket or restaurant that's selling it."


The U.S.

Department of Agriculture fails to test for arsenic in the chicken breasts or thighs that Americans mostly eat, and does not make public results of its testing of individual brands.


Brand name chicken products tested by IATP included Foster Farms, Trader Joe's, Gold'n Plump, Perdue, Smart Chicken, and Tyson Foods. Fast food chains that had chicken products tested included McDonald's, Wendy's, Arby's, Subway, Kentucky Fried Chicken, Church's and Popeyes. Chicken products were purchased from supermarkets and fast food outlets in Minnesota and California and were analyzed for arsenic by a private, independent commercial laboratory.


The full report can be found at: http://www.iatp.org


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The Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy works globally to promote resilient family farms, communities and ecosystems through research and education, science and technology, and advocacy.


http://www.usnewswire.com/
 
I would think this would give the checkoff folks something to tee off on. If chicken is our biggest competitor, we have a situation where our biggest competitor is putting a poison into their product. Looks like some prime ammunition to me.
 
Sandbag: "I would think this would give the checkoff folks something to tee off on. If chicken is our biggest competitor, we have a situation where our biggest competitor is putting a poison into their product. Looks like some prime ammunition to me."
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Absolutely brilliant idea Austin Sandbag, then the chicken people can use R-CULT's BSE fear mongering arguments against the beef industry. Pork would just love that.

GEE WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF THAT?

Stick to the things you actually understand......which was what again?


~SH~
 
~SH~ said:
Sandbag: "I would think this would give the checkoff folks something to tee off on. If chicken is our biggest competitor, we have a situation where our biggest competitor is putting a poison into their product. Looks like some prime ammunition to me."
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Absolutely brilliant idea Austin Sandbag, then the chicken people can use R-CULT's BSE fear mongering arguments against the beef industry. Pork would just love that.

GEE WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF THAT?

Stick to the things you actually understand......which was what again?


~SH~
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If they think they have something with R-CALF's statements, they can already use it. Guess you didn't think of that, did you?

I understand many things, SH.

I understand the Japanese were asking for testing all along - do you understand that yet? Last I knew, you said a quote from Veneman was NOTHING. :lol:

I understand it takes market power to manipulate markets - something any Tom, Dick, or Harry does not have. I know you don't understand that.

I understand consumer fraud can not take place by simply meeting a customer's requests.

I understand we have been shipping products and using those same products here that are not based on sound science for years now.

I understand GIPSA did all they could to NOT to investigate. So does Tom Harkin, Joan Waterford, Saxby Chambliss, etc... You commented that nothing was wrong there.

I understand that the USDA has broken their own rules and recommendations regarding importing from BSE positive countries many times - all for economic reasons.

I could go on and on about what I know, but I've got a tank to dig out and daylight is burning.

The real question is what do you know?
 
~SH~ said:
Sandbag: "I would think this would give the checkoff folks something to tee off on. If chicken is our biggest competitor, we have a situation where our biggest competitor is putting a poison into their product. Looks like some prime ammunition to me."
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Absolutely brilliant idea Austin Sandbag, then the chicken people can use R-CULT's BSE fear mongering arguments against the beef industry. Pork would just love that.

GEE WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF THAT?

Stick to the things you actually understand......which was what again?


~SH~
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Excellent idea, SH. We might be able to solve two problems at the same time.

Tyson may not like their name being drug through the dirt, but then again, the USDA may be getting tired of having to prop up a company that has bribed the last Sec. of Agriculture, pardoned byPresident Bill, feeds arsenic to its population to get the cheapest chicken in the world, interefered with market data, manipulated the markets, and cheated ranchers out of court judgements, and not protected the food supply by allowing BSE to be introduced to the U.S., allows loopholes in feed ban for Tyson's benefit, promotes incompetence and corruption at GIPSA and other agencies at USDA like AMS so they can profit, merges cattle organizations so they can control them, controls the checkoff program that is cattlemen funded while they are exempt, and generally kisses John Tyson's butt every time they can.

Sometimes the political cost adds up to be too much, when people THINK.
 
A company that has bribed the last Sec. of Agriculture, pardoned byPresident Bill, This alone proves that some packers were *******. Is this the cheap food policy?
 
Tyson also imported illegal emigrants to process the delectible wonders. They also did the same in Canada. I guess all the US unemployed are to happy welfare to work anymore. Or else Tyson is too cheap to pay them.
 
cedardell said:
Tyson also imported illegal emigrants to process the delectible wonders. They also did the same in Canada. I guess all the US unemployed are to happy welfare to work anymore. Or else Tyson is too cheap to pay them.
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In a market economy it is the latter. Wage suppression is part of the illegal immigrant problem. Nafta was supposed to help on that front by opening up opportunities for Mexicans living in Mexico, but the free trade deals have only helped the oligarchs get richer and bounce jobs to the orient, to the detriment of the N. american labor force.

We are now seeing the results of this policy with companies dumping their pension plans and getting out of labor contracts. It is the Mexicanization of our country's labor force to the lowest common denominator in the world. The only ones profiting from these deals are large corporations, Wal-mart (which is a large corporation), and the oligarchs in China and elsewhere. It seems we all benefit from lower prices on products, but that comes at the expense of our standard of living.

I have no problem with free trade, but the current system does not distribute the benefits of free trade to all. It concentrates it to the hands of the few. In the process we are selling our future taxation rights on our children to these oligarchs.

If China was so poor, why would they be buying U.S. debt and not U.S. products on balance?
 
Econ101 said:
~SH~ said:
Sandbag: "I would think this would give the checkoff folks something to tee off on. If chicken is our biggest competitor, we have a situation where our biggest competitor is putting a poison into their product. Looks like some prime ammunition to me."
Click to expand...

Absolutely brilliant idea Austin Sandbag, then the chicken people can use R-CULT's BSE fear mongering arguments against the beef industry. Pork would just love that.

GEE WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF THAT?

Stick to the things you actually understand......which was what again?


~SH~
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Excellent idea, SH. We might be able to solve two problems at the same time.

Tyson may not like their name being drug through the dirt, but then again, the USDA may be getting tired of having to prop up a company that has bribed the last Sec. of Agriculture, pardoned byPresident Bill, feeds arsenic to its population to get the cheapest chicken in the world, interefered with market data, manipulated the markets, and cheated ranchers out of court judgements, and not protected the food supply by allowing BSE to be introduced to the U.S., allows loopholes in feed ban for Tyson's benefit, promotes incompetence and corruption at GIPSA and other agencies at USDA like AMS so they can profit, merges cattle organizations so they can control them, controls the checkoff program that is cattlemen funded while they are exempt, and generally kisses John Tyson's butt every time they can.

Sometimes the political cost adds up to be too much, when people THINK.
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This link is from the NY Times on 4/5/06. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/05/dining/05well.html
The article claims Tyson does not use arsenic. Is the NY Times wrong here?
 
Beefman said:
Econ101 said:
~SH~ said:
Absolutely brilliant idea Austin Sandbag, then the chicken people can use R-CULT's BSE fear mongering arguments against the beef industry. Pork would just love that.

GEE WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF THAT?

Stick to the things you actually understand......which was what again?


~SH~
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Excellent idea, SH. We might be able to solve two problems at the same time.

Tyson may not like their name being drug through the dirt, but then again, the USDA may be getting tired of having to prop up a company that has bribed the last Sec. of Agriculture, pardoned byPresident Bill, feeds arsenic to its population to get the cheapest chicken in the world, interefered with market data, manipulated the markets, and cheated ranchers out of court judgements, and not protected the food supply by allowing BSE to be introduced to the U.S., allows loopholes in feed ban for Tyson's benefit, promotes incompetence and corruption at GIPSA and other agencies at USDA like AMS so they can profit, merges cattle organizations so they can control them, controls the checkoff program that is cattlemen funded while they are exempt, and generally kisses John Tyson's butt every time they can.

Sometimes the political cost adds up to be too much, when people THINK.
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This link is from the NY Times on 4/5/06. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/05/dining/05well.html
The article claims Tyson does not use arsenic. Is the NY Times wrong here?
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It depends. Are you a Tyson cheerleader?

I think that Tyson has stopped using arsenic, at least they SAY they have. They currently have some lawsuits out there because of arsenic problems, but who really knows? You can not tell definitively by what Tyson's says, you have to test for it.

The fact remains that the arsenic additive was added to the poultry feed without proper testing of the safety of residual arsenic in the poultry.

At first Tyson said that the arsenic fed was an organic arsenic that did not accuumulate in the tissues and that the organic form of arsenic was not dangerous. Then some later research found out that was untrue, that the arsenic did go out the poultry door on and in the chickens at higher levels than was claimed by Lobb and the industry. The previous statements were outright lies.

Then more testing like the article I printed comes out. Meanwhile people are getting more and more arsenic in their chicken and in thier diets.

There had to be a decision made- either reduce the arsenic in the poultry or increase the daily amount of arsenic that is allowable in the diet. They tried to do the latter, but were stopped (thankfully) by those "wacky enviromentalists".

Lobb is an industry spokesman and a hired gun to spew out the industy's propaganda. One day he will say one thing to fit the circumstances, and the next day he will say another, totally different thing based on the "new evidence" while he knows the truth all along that he was lying in the first instance. I don't know why anyone would quote him, except that he is the "spokesman" for the broiler industry integrators.

Lobb didn't look to good on his 60 minutes debut.
 
Sandbag: "If they think they have something with R-CALF's statements, they can already use it. Guess you didn't think of that, did you?"

Chicken is smart enough not to get into a pissing match with beef and visa versa. Use your damn head!


Sandbag: "I understand the Japanese were asking for testing all along - do you understand that yet?"

I understand that Japan has already accepted beef from the U.S. WITHOUT BSE TESTING.


Sandbag: "I understand it takes market power to manipulate markets - something any Tom, Dick, or Harry does not have."

I understand that if you are going to make an ALLEGATION of market manipulation, you better have the facts to back it up. That's the part you packer blamers can't understand.


Sandbag: "I understand consumer fraud can not take place by simply meeting a customer's requests."

I understand that Creekstone's BSE tests would not have revealed BSE prions in cattle under 24 months of age even if they were present.


Sandbag: "I understand we have been shipping products and using those same products here that are not based on sound science for years now."

I understand that sound science only applies where sound science would apply.


Sandbag: "I understand GIPSA did all they could to NOT to investigate. So does Tom Harkin, Joan Waterford, Saxby Chambliss, etc... You commented that nothing was wrong there."

You liar! I commented that nothing had been PROVEN wrong there. A political allegation that makes packer blamers happy is not proof. I want to hear GIPSA's side of the argument rather than being a packer blaming lemming.


Sandbag: "I understand that the USDA has broken their own rules and recommendations regarding importing from BSE positive countries many times - all for economic reasons."

I understand that rules regarding BSE must take into consideration the precautionary measures that have been taken and I understand you don't dictate to others rules you are not willing to live by yourself.


Sandbag: "I could go on and on about what I know, but I've got a tank to dig out and daylight is burning."

You could go on and on with what you think you know and I could go on and on correcting your ignorance.



~SH~
 
Sandbag: "I understand GIPSA did all they could to NOT to investigate. So does Tom Harkin, Joan Waterford, Saxby Chambliss, etc... You commented that nothing was wrong there."

You liar! I commented that nothing had been PROVEN wrong there. A political allegation that makes packer blamers happy is not proof. I want to hear GIPSA's side of the argument rather than being a packer blaming lemming.


Here's a reminder of what you said, SH, on 2/9/06, "There is nothing wrong with how GIPSA is being run."

Who's the liar? :roll: :lol: :lol:
 
Sandhusker said:
Sandbag: "I understand GIPSA did all they could to NOT to investigate. So does Tom Harkin, Joan Waterford, Saxby Chambliss, etc... You commented that nothing was wrong there."

You liar! I commented that nothing had been PROVEN wrong there. A political allegation that makes packer blamers happy is not proof. I want to hear GIPSA's side of the argument rather than being a packer blaming lemming.


Here's a reminder of what you said, SH, on 2/9/06, "There is nothing wrong with how GIPSA is being run."

Who's the liar? :roll: :lol: :lol:
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Sandhusker, as of January ?, 2006, the new guy was 'running', and had started the clean-up of, GIPSA......so who is the liar on that subject?????

MRJ
 
MRJ said:
Sandhusker said:
Sandbag: "I understand GIPSA did all they could to NOT to investigate. So does Tom Harkin, Joan Waterford, Saxby Chambliss, etc... You commented that nothing was wrong there."

You liar! I commented that nothing had been PROVEN wrong there. A political allegation that makes packer blamers happy is not proof. I want to hear GIPSA's side of the argument rather than being a packer blaming lemming.


Here's a reminder of what you said, SH, on 2/9/06, "There is nothing wrong with how GIPSA is being run."

Who's the liar? :roll: :lol: :lol:
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Sandhusker, as of January ?, 2006, the new guy was 'running', and had started the clean-up of, GIPSA......so who is the liar on that subject?????

MRJ
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SH
 
SH's post:
Sandbag: "If they think they have something with R-CALF's statements, they can already use it. Guess you didn't think of that, did you?"

Chicken is smart enough not to get into a pissing match with beef and visa versa. Use your damn head!
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The reason you are not going to have chicken and beef fighting is that Tyson has the largest position in the USDA and both chicken and beef. Why fight between yourself unless you have a bigger plan like consolidating the Canadian beef industry?
 
"I understand GIPSA did all they could to NOT to investigate. So does Tom Harkin, Saxby Chambliss, etc... have a reason to get Joan Waterford?
 
PORKER said:
"I understand GIPSA did all they could to NOT to investigate. So does Tom Harkin, Saxby Chambliss, etc... have a reason to get Joan Waterford?
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If JoAnn talked, the packers might get cleaned out of the USDA too much for their comfort. It would open a lot of govt. jobs up, however.

Making JoAnn talk to some fed. investigators, just like scooter libby might just break up things over there.
 
Sandhusker said:
Sandbag: "I understand GIPSA did all they could to NOT to investigate. So does Tom Harkin, Joan Waterford, Saxby Chambliss, etc... You commented that nothing was wrong there."

You liar! I commented that nothing had been PROVEN wrong there. A political allegation that makes packer blamers happy is not proof. I want to hear GIPSA's side of the argument rather than being a packer blaming lemming.


Here's a reminder of what you said, SH, on 2/9/06, "There is nothing wrong with how GIPSA is being run."

Who's the liar? :roll: :lol: :lol:
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You still haven't answered my question, SH. I'd gracously accept your apology should you offer.

Come on, SH, I can't seem to find the word "proven" in your comment, "There is nothing wrong with how GIPSA is being run." I have two direct comments from you, please tell me where I lied.

I say this is just another example of your lack of credibity, integrity, and common sense. Are you going to call me a liar on that, too?
 

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