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Attn. US producers

Is this just to help get them across the border or does he have contacts up there to buy cattle and the whole works?
 
Faster horses said:
It just sucks that Canadians can't bring cattle to the USA to sell them, but we can go up there, buy them and bring them here. :x What's the political reasoning for this that I don't get?
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Call the number that Big Muddy gave.

BILL has all the answers.
 
Faster horses said:
It just sucks that Canadians can't bring cattle to the USA to sell them, but we can go up there, buy them and bring them here. :x What's the political reasoning for this that I don't get?
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You've got it right, I think its mainly politics. I wwould think that a lb. of beef available on the No.American Continent is just that [a lb of beef]. We do need to have some controls but also a lot of comman sense and when you let politicians in any form of business, disaster is sure to strike. It's like the ban on our beef in so many countries because of the 1 holstein cow with??? mad cow ,a few years ago. As most of these countries had a lot of it through out there own industry.
 
I would rather sit at a table and ask "is this USA beef, or Canadian beef" than sit at that same table and ask " American Chicken, or Chinese??"
 
Label canadian beef and create a demand thru advertising. Look at bottle water and the price difference between names on labels. I can remember when western grain fed beef was the rage in my area and it dammed near killed the beef industry in this state. It was not because the product was better but someone created a illusion that it was superior via advertizing.
 
PATB said:
Label canadian beef and create a demand thru advertising. Look at bottle water and the price difference between names on labels. I can remember when western grain fed beef was the rage in my area and it dammed near killed the beef industry in this state. It was not because the product was better but someone created a illusion that it was superior via advertizing.
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At one time canadian whiskey and rum was cosidered the best . Did'nt really know why and now I think it was mostly advertiseing and have always said "if the nortern feedlots and packers took a run at us in the beef business they would be tough to deal with"!! I,being a strong believer in barley and wheat as some what superior to corn as the finishing grain they would have quite a selling point.
 
bllcattle said:
PATB said:
Label canadian beef and create a demand thru advertising. Look at bottle water and the price difference between names on labels. I can remember when western grain fed beef was the rage in my area and it dammed near killed the beef industry in this state. It was not because the product was better but someone created a illusion that it was superior via advertizing.
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At one time canadian whiskey and rum was cosidered the best . Did'nt really know why and now I think it was mostly advertiseing and have always said "if the nortern feedlots and packers took a run at us in the beef business they would be tough to deal with"!! I,being a strong believer in barley and wheat as some what superior to corn as the finishing grain they would have quite a selling point.
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Your thought process is pretty much right on bllcattle. With the future openings of a new plant or two this could happen. As well as access to new markets. But as long as Western Canada only has the 2 big players we have today in the packing industry grabbing up our discounted beef there is not going to be a change. JBS and Cargill are happy to sit back grinning while the Oldtimers of the world keep fanning the fire. I'm not going to pretend its a perfect world up here but when it comes to looking for BSE cattle the US is riding the second horse in the race.
But one thing about it, if enough guys from Montana, the Dakotas or whatever state decide to jump in and mix enough "CHEAP" Canadian bred cows into the US herd we will eventually have ONE NORTH AMERICAN herd whether the Oldtimers want it or not
A black tattoo in a black ear is BLACK.
 
Big Muddy rancher said:
For all USA producers that want to import Good Canadian cows at discount prices call 406-252-2516 at Billings and ask for BILL.
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I bet Bill would like that. :D
 
burnt said:
Silver said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
For all USA producers that want to import Good Canadian cows at discount prices call 406-252-2516 at Billings and ask for BILL.
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I bet Bill would like that. :D
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Whoa - this could get confusing - did you mean Bill, or BILL? lol
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Perhaps it is I who is confused. The phone number above belongs to Bill, and to me made the post ironic enough. I guess I'll need BILL explained to me :???:
 
when it comes to purchasing cheap products and groceries,,,I explain it this way-------- my wife came home with a load of groceries and as I was going thru them I had to ask "what did you buy this for"" she said "because it was on sale"------so I went and bought a bottle of Canadian whiskey and set it on the counter. and when she asked"what did u buy this for" I responded because it was "on sale"
 
There is quite a lot of beef labeled as to quality now. The top stuff may seem pretty pricey to most of us, but it does sell, and no doubt some of it is or Canadian origin, or gets that label without leaving Canada.

Doesn't it stand to reason that if packing plants were making as much money as some who love to hate them believe, there would be success when new plants are built???? There is a very state of the art new plant standing still in SD right now waiting for bankruptcy proceedings to finish up. Doubtful it is the only one in a similar situation.

Re. BSE, the USA did get ahead of that game by doing a very difficult job of eliminating bloodlines of cattle imported from England which were implicated in that problem (whether right or wrong) BEFORE any BSE was found in this country.

mrj
 
mrj said:
There is quite a lot of beef labeled as to quality now. The top stuff may seem pretty pricey to most of us, but it does sell, and no doubt some of it is or Canadian origin, or gets that label without leaving Canada.

Doesn't it stand to reason that if packing plants were making as much money as some who love to hate them believe, there would be success when new plants are built???? There is a very state of the art new plant standing still in SD right now waiting for bankruptcy proceedings to finish up. Doubtful it is the only one in a similar situation.

Re. BSE, the USA did get ahead of that game by doing a very difficult job of eliminating bloodlines of cattle imported from England which were implicated in that problem (whether right or wrong) BEFORE any BSE was found in this country.

mrj
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mrj, as much as I like a lot of what you post, I wonder how much you believe some of what you write.

Packers are in the business to make money, they do that more by cutting costs than raising prices on their products. I have witnessed what the big players will do when a smaller player steps up on the block By cutting delivery costs of a small portion of their product to the new guys customers they effectively do away with competition that would essentially help the grassroots producer. When the small plant is gone they will again raise their price again.
That is the main reason for mothballed plants in Canada rather than shipping fats to a US based multinational that can buy our cattle at significantly less cost than US cattle in their back yard.

If you believe the US did a transparent job of eliminating BSE it is my feeling you are very mistaken.
 

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