Big Muddy rancher
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kolanuraven said:
You would be fired on this place for a stunt like that. :roll:
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You would be fired on this place for a stunt like that. :roll:
kolanuraven
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Big Muddy rancher said:
" Touche!!!!" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I forgot to say that we rub the barb wire down with snuff also and hang the tins from the fence also....just to keep'em on their toes!!!
the_jersey_lilly_2000
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kolanuraven said:
Dang Kola, you forgot to mention the cayenne pepper mixed with lard smeared on the wood posts to keep horses from knawin on em. (Can't bleave you forgot that)
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the_jersey_lilly_2000 said:
Well...since Sam died last fall.. and I am now horse-less....we have no need for that barbaric practice anymore!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
We just slang snuff now!!! :lol: :lol:
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Well....that splains it then LOL
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the_jersey_lilly_2000 said:
Just commenting on my own situation just to clarify.
kathydavis
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:lol: thank ya all. i can see it's a matter of opinion, chase cows or not. we were both right in this one.
See,you can learn something new on this site nearly every day. I thought 5 wire fence was only used for weaning, and the guys with 4 wire fences were just showing off! I certainly never heard of a 6 wire fence.
We have a neighbour that borders some of our grazing with one single hot wire. He grazes to the dirt and I've never seen his cows out. Mine seem to get in with his though before they get trained up, and once in they have such a phobia you can't hardly get them out the open gate.
Our fences are mostly all 3 wire, that works in these parts and the cows that don't want to play along go to town.
We have a neighbour that borders some of our grazing with one single hot wire. He grazes to the dirt and I've never seen his cows out. Mine seem to get in with his though before they get trained up, and once in they have such a phobia you can't hardly get them out the open gate.
Our fences are mostly all 3 wire, that works in these parts and the cows that don't want to play along go to town.
This goes to show that the way a fence is built and maintained is more important that how many wires. When I bought this farm ( 1973) it had 4 and 5 wire barbed wire everywhere that would not turn anything. My first reaction was to add more wires. I had several fences with 4 old wires that I restreched and 3 new wires in the voids.
The fences were very intimidating to humans but the cattle would ride them down.
I started using Hi Tensile electric in the late 70s or early 80s and love it.
Now on slick days when cars go through my fences ( two or three times a year) I do go out and repair the fence but I don't chase cows. They know where the fence is supposed to be and respect the area.
But the key here is I use the largest charger on the market ( it really packs a wallop ) and I maintain my fences. After a storm I check voltage near the house and if everything is good I will get a hi reading. If not I start shutting off different parts and when I locate the bad part I will make needed repairs. About a month ago I was away for about three days and when I got home we had had a storm. The pasture where the cattle were had three large tree limbs down on the fence but the cattle were still in. I shut the power off, fixed the fence and turned it back on.
And also I don't have to open and close gates when I drive through - - - if you go to the post of portable cattle guards you will see a cheap way that works great except for snow and wives on lawn mowers.
The fences were very intimidating to humans but the cattle would ride them down.
I started using Hi Tensile electric in the late 70s or early 80s and love it.
Now on slick days when cars go through my fences ( two or three times a year) I do go out and repair the fence but I don't chase cows. They know where the fence is supposed to be and respect the area.
But the key here is I use the largest charger on the market ( it really packs a wallop ) and I maintain my fences. After a storm I check voltage near the house and if everything is good I will get a hi reading. If not I start shutting off different parts and when I locate the bad part I will make needed repairs. About a month ago I was away for about three days and when I got home we had had a storm. The pasture where the cattle were had three large tree limbs down on the fence but the cattle were still in. I shut the power off, fixed the fence and turned it back on.
And also I don't have to open and close gates when I drive through - - - if you go to the post of portable cattle guards you will see a cheap way that works great except for snow and wives on lawn mowers.
I think Ms.G really nailed it best when she pointed out that different areas do things differently. A lot of it depends on stocking density. In areas where people run a cow/calf to two acres, there is more pressure on fences than areas where cattle can go for days and never see a fence.
Don't discount the liability issue, though. That's got to be a big consideration on your perimeter fences - particularly where you have road frontage. That's another regional difference - the people who are still fortunate enough to live in open-range states don't have to worry about that as much.
I think the liability issue is one of the things that has made most of us use more and more wires over the years. I remember 30 years ago feeling real good with three wire perimeter fences and two wire cross fences. The first four wire fences I ever saw looked like a waste of money to me.
Look around the area and see what most people use along road frontage. Try to match that standard - or even use one or two more. Like Denny pointed out, for 50 acres it won't make that much difference.
And in the event that something ever happens and you have a cow get out - and a lawyer's kid runs into her - it'll be to your advantage to be able to show that you did everything within your power to keep your cattle in. If that ever happens and you find yourself the subject of a lawsuit, you need to be able to prove that you did everything reasonable to contain your cattle.
Using more wire than anybody else in the area will sure sound good to a jury. If you put up enough wire that all of the neighbors laugh at you now, they'll sure make good witnesses in the event that you ever need one.
Don't discount the liability issue, though. That's got to be a big consideration on your perimeter fences - particularly where you have road frontage. That's another regional difference - the people who are still fortunate enough to live in open-range states don't have to worry about that as much.
I think the liability issue is one of the things that has made most of us use more and more wires over the years. I remember 30 years ago feeling real good with three wire perimeter fences and two wire cross fences. The first four wire fences I ever saw looked like a waste of money to me.
Look around the area and see what most people use along road frontage. Try to match that standard - or even use one or two more. Like Denny pointed out, for 50 acres it won't make that much difference.
And in the event that something ever happens and you have a cow get out - and a lawyer's kid runs into her - it'll be to your advantage to be able to show that you did everything within your power to keep your cattle in. If that ever happens and you find yourself the subject of a lawsuit, you need to be able to prove that you did everything reasonable to contain your cattle.
Using more wire than anybody else in the area will sure sound good to a jury. If you put up enough wire that all of the neighbors laugh at you now, they'll sure make good witnesses in the event that you ever need one.