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Barbados Rules On Canuck Cattle- Listen Up USDA!!!!

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Veterinary Services on top of mad cow concern
Web Posted - Fri Mar 02 2007
By Sherlock Small
Concerned about mad cow disease (Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy or BSE) and other possible threats, Barbados Veterinary Services Department will be keeping a close eye on Canadian bred heifers from the time they arrive in Barbados and for the rest of their natural lives. Veterinary Officer, Dr. Rosina Maitland, told the Barbados Advocate there was a strict Memorandum of Understanding detailing the dos and donts with regard to the Canadian heifers.

The Barbados Advocate understands that amongst other stipulations, the animals can never be culled for beef purposes, and even their male offspring are to be destroyed and buried, although the females can continue in the milking herds.

There is no concern with the milk, there never has been a concern when it comes to that, Maitland said. There will otherwise be strict controls in place. There is a Memorandum of Understanding concerning these animals. This was something signed between the importer and the Veterinary Services Department. It is a Memorandum of Understanding that sets out the procedure involved in handling these animals, where they can go and where they cant go, it is a whole protocol. So we are trying our best to protect everything, and to cover all loopholes.

Maitland did not indicate there was any cause for worry, noting that it was procedure which had always been in place allowing the Vet Services to set importation conditions, and conditions for testing for certain diseases. After being quarantined for over a month in Canada, the animals will be quarantined for a month in Barbados after arrival. Just to ensure that the animals are kept certain places, and if anything goes wrong with them, it is able to be handled. Because of our concern we are trying to address things, and mostly people are talking about BSE, so these animals would never be allowed to go into the food chain, you cant cull them out and use them for meat.

Maitland added that with more animals expected to be arriving in Barbados if more of the islands milk shippers follow suit, the task of the Veterinary Services Department will be significantly increased. She said to facilitate increased monitoring Vet Services would work closely with the farms regularly visiting veterinarian.

Stephen Williams, Manager of CO Williams Farms, importers of this shipment of 80 Canadian heifers, said they were well aware of the strict importation and monitoring guidelines.

There are very strict identification tags on them. And in the event that they reach the end of their useful lives, they will go straight into the ground. They will not be sold as beef or anything like that, he said.

Williams said the calves would have to be monitored as well. He said if the offspring were heifers, they would be kept in production, but if the calves turned out to be bulls, they would go straight into the ground. Thats the assumption I am acting on right now subject to confirmation from veterinary services, Williams said.
 
Same newspaper,same reporter..........



Canadian heifers leave for Barbados today
Web Posted - Thu Mar 01 2007
By Sherlock Small
A shipment of 80 bred Holstein heifers will leave Hamilton Airport, Canada today bound for Barbados, marking the first time in almost four years that a live bred heifer has left that country.

The shipment is part of an initiative by the local industry to boost local fresh milk supplies to the Pine Hill Dairy, as the island has, in recent times, been suffering from short supplies of fresh milk.

CO Williams Farms is the intended recipient of this shipment of 80 pregnant heifers which are being imported at an estimated cost of $56 000.

The Barbadian initiative has been welcomed by the Canadian dairy industry as a catalyst for revival in the export component of their industry, which has been under the microscope in recent years over the incidence of mad cow disease. This has already started to come about, and following the wake of the Barbados importation project, Egypt on Tuesday agreed to lift its ban on Canadian breeding stock.

Speaking to the Barbados Advocate yesterday, President of the Dairy and Beef Producers Association and dairy farmer, Paul Davis, said the development was good for both countries, adding Barbados should have everything in place procedurally.

Their exports have been shut down for some time now because of the mad cow disease, so it represents the opening back up of the market for them, Davis said.

He added that Barbados has not gone into the deal without experience, adding that local veterinary professionals here were very conscious of their responsibility.

We clearly have to be conscious of the risks and so on, and there have to be certain things put in place when the animals get here which the chief veterinary officer has stipulated to the importers and so on, to make sure that if anything was to happen with these cows in future, which is very unlikely, that they would be constantly on top of the situation. I think that once the authorities have satisfied themselves that the importation restrictions and conditions have been met, there is nothing really I can see that we need to be more aware of, Davis said.

Canada has put in place a very comprehensive monitoring programme for mad cow disease and this has, by all reports, been working very well.

Just in August 2006, the Canadian Food Inspection Agency, the federal regulator responsible for monitoring the safety of Canadian cattle, confirmed a case of mad cow disease in an older cow in Alberta. It was the fifth case in 2006 and the eighth since 2003.

The agency said locating the cow underscored the success of its monitoring programme.

On December 29, 2004, the USDA announced that it recognised Canada as a minimal-risk region for BSE and said imports of young Canadian cattle would resume on March 7, 2005. Barbados was advised of the partial lifting of a ban on Canadian beef and dairy in October 2003.
 
He didn't have much time to check his sources since he went to town last night. Tim why in the world are you trying to spoil OT's weekend :???: Facts seem to mess up a good ''story'' sometimes :wink:
 
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Bred Heifers Going to Barbados

It's been almost 4 years since a live bred heifer has left the country - but tomorrow -- that's expected to change.

Barbados is importing 80 bred Holstein heifers from Shores of London.

The animals will be leaving Hamilton airport tomorrow.

Rick McRonald of the Canadian Livestock Genetics Association says although he won't believe they are leaving until the plane takes off - he says its still a good day.

McRonald says these heifers leaving tomorrow is actually a delay - they were suppose to leave today - however plane maintence delayed take off.

He adds that once we get one going - the others are much easier.

In fact - just yesterday Egypt agreed to lift its ban on Canadian breeding stock.

The export certificate will also be extended to sheep and goats from Canada.

Although we aren't sure when the first shipment will be heading to Egypt, Agricultrue Minister Chuck Strahl says this will create opportunities for the livestock sector in both Egypt and of course Canada.
 
Notice the prices in the story above... $700 average for Holstein springers. That isn't a typo, actually it's on the high end of what they've been for the past 4 years.
 
The Barbados Advocate understands that amongst other stipulations, the animals can never be culled for beef purposes, and even their male offspring are to be destroyed and buried, although the females can continue in the milking herds.


I guess only a Canuck looking thru their rose colored glasses can envision that as a positive statement... :???:
For some reason this does not bubble over with an aura of confidence in the safety of Canuck cows--"All culls and male ofspring to be destroyed and buried"...

Barbados doesn't want anything to do with the beef and meat that Canada wants to flood our US markets with-- unlabeled so noone in the US can make their own informed choice on its safety......
 
DaleK said:
Notice the prices in the story above... $700 average for Holstein springers. That isn't a typo, actually it's on the high end of what they've been for the past 4 years.


In dairy country here dayold females of good quality will bring 2/3 of that price :shock: Makes you wonder if a few of the dairy people here would be glad to knock some bull calves in the head :wink:
 
mwj, glad you can see through OTs b/s :-)

Seems OT has a real problem doesnt he. He has got a real grudge against Canada for some reason. He likes to bold things that he recopys off the net. Im beginning to think he is a real wierdo. :shock:
 
I would say that the people in Barbados are using there heads. If you think that there could be a risk then you have a plan to manage the risk. The other way to look at it is to deny that there ever could be a problem in your part of the world and lay blame to everyone else that is trying to deal with the risk. I am sure that these people could have loaded that plane with milk just as easy as they loaded breeding stock, but decided not to. Maybe they need a Montana rancher that is not in the dairy buissness to straighten out there thinking for them :wink: On the other hand they could have COOL in place and then everything that is harmfull goes away :roll:
 
Oldtimer said:
The Barbados Advocate understands that amongst other stipulations, the animals can never be culled for beef purposes, and even their male offspring are to be destroyed and buried, although the females can continue in the milking herds.


I guess only a Canuck looking thru their rose colored glasses can envision that as a positive statement... :???:
For some reason this does not bubble over with an aura of confidence in the safety of Canuck cows--"All culls and male ofspring to be destroyed and buried"...

Barbados doesn't want anything to do with the beef and meat that Canada wants to flood our US markets with-- unlabeled so noone in the US can make their own informed choice on its safety......

You should have bolded this part, Festus....."The Barbados Advocate understands" ......

So that's what that bastion of journalism, "The Barbados Advocate" understands. Is that official Barbados government policy?? Or are they just repeating what some tit-puller told them??
Didn't bother to find out before you started chirping off AGAIN, did you Dick??
:D :D :D :D :D

PS. After seeing that picture,that you posted of yourself all gussied up like a pimp to a picnic, I don't think you have much right to be making fun of anyone else's glasses...... and you might want to take your BB gun down from there and put it someplace where it can't fall down and break your whiskey bottle. :D :D :D :D :D
 
Sandhusker said:
There's people who say they have a live BSE test. Why doesn't Canada pursue that and be done with it?


What would that do in the context of this post? Let them sell there breeding stock to Barbados? Maybe we should all just set back for 2-3 years for the test to be aproved. Then we would all have time to gripe about our lack of export mkts. Some people think it might be better to move on with what they have and strive to improve things as they go.
 
mwj said:
Sandhusker said:
There's people who say they have a live BSE test. Why doesn't Canada pursue that and be done with it?


What would that do in the context of this post? Let them sell there breeding stock to Barbados? Maybe we should all just set back for 2-3 years for the test to be aproved. Then we would all have time to gripe about our lack of export mkts. Some people think it might be better to move on with what they have and strive to improve things as they go.

It would remove all doubt on whether an animal had BSE or not, and I dare say that would be an improvement.
 
Those cattle that were shipped overseas can be tested with a urine BSE test before slaughter when its needed after they are not fit for milk production. It's a shame to bury good beef.
 
PORKER said:
Those cattle that were shipped overseas can be tested with a urine BSE test before slaughter when its needed after they are not fit for milk production. It's a shame to bury good beef.


Who has the aproved test on the mkt. that is in use today?
 
mwj said:
PORKER said:
Those cattle that were shipped overseas can be tested with a urine BSE test before slaughter when its needed after they are not fit for milk production. It's a shame to bury good beef.


Who has the aproved test on the mkt. that is in use today?

Who is serious about approving a test?
 
The test is not the question, as the question was why do they have to bury good beef to make sure no one eats BSE infected beef . Those dairy animals will be done milking in about 4-7 years,which in this case the live BSE urine test will be ready, unless it can be used by the Barbados government experimently if needed.
 
http://www.scoringsystem.com/scoringsystem/sandbox/content/WEEKLY_ARTICLES_ABBS.mht

The Barbados government is doing COOL. The Bureau is currently preparing standards, and developing services which are relevant to the economy of Antigua and Barbuda, e.g. Labelling of goods: general principles prepackaged foods/goods; Specification for bottled water, labelling of pesticides, labelling of beer; Specification for prepackaged ice; specification for pneumatic passenger car tyres etc. In so doing it will provide a broad base of technical, advisory and monitoring services for producers and manufacturers. (This will in turn benefit the consumer).
 
Check where the cattle are going if you want to know why they set these rules. :!:

From an information profile on the Caribbean islands.

Market Overview
The market area for the eastern Caribbean region covered by the High Commission includes the islands of Anguilla, Antigua and Barbuda, Barbados, British Virgin Islands, Dominica, Grenada, Guadeloupe, Martinique, Montserrat, St. Kitts and Nevis, St. Lucia, St. Maarten/St. Martin, and St. Vincent and the Grenadines. The combined population of these islands is approximately 1.8 million people. Many of these islands have a well-developed tourist trade, increasing the overall consumption levels of the market and the diversity of the products required. For example, Barbados has a base population of 270 000 people. During 2001, Barbados had over one million visitors, including both "stay over" and cruise passengers, thereby elevating the food consumption requirements significantly. All of the islands in this region are import dependent, including in the food products sector. The islands' agriculture and manufacturing industries are limited and are not generally capable of supplying the local markets.

The food industry varies slightly among islands, but the basic infrastructure is the same. Each island has an abundance of small retail shops that supply local areas. In the business centres, larger grocery stores exist. These stores, in general, are not as advanced as those found in North America. Many of these outlets have insufficient storage space and therefore can not carry large inventories.

I would think that the meat processing in Barbados is probably being done on a small scale with no central plants In order to make sure things are done right, it's safer to just say no to using our cattle as beef. I would expect most cull cattle are processed without any government oversight.

The rules are tailored to suit the market. :!:
 

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