Cowgal
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A picture I took on a walk, just west of our place about 4 miles. Its hard to see but it measures over 5 inches in length. Probably the bugger who's been taking down the neighbors calves.......
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A picture I took on a walk, just west of our place about 4 miles. Its hard to see but it measures over 5 inches in length. Probably the bugger who's been taking down the neighbors calves.......
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cowsense
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Cowgal.......you better remember the Little Red Riding Hood stories before you head out for your 4 mile jaunts :wink: :!:
the_jersey_lilly_2000
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Lil Red Ridin Hood better start packin iron.
Cowgal
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Are wolves prone to attacking humans? I have never heard of an incident up here myself......anyone else have?
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Aaron
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Wolves are usually pretty shy. It's the dog-wolfs that you have to watch out for. They can be bigger than timbers and don't have much of a fear of humans. Few of them running around our area and their heads look less fine featured like a wolf and more coarse like a bear.
CattleQueen
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I just got this on my email today. Hope you all comment on this by Monday, April 10, 2006. I believe these 2 articles are in the Wyoming Livestock Roundup.
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The US Fish & Wildlife Service is proposing to delist the northern gray wolf in Wyoming, Montana, Idaho and parts of Utah, Oregon & Washington. YOU have until Monday, April 10, to submit your comments. Harriet Hageman, attorney for the Wyoming Wolf Coalition, told me last week it is VERY important that we comment, because the FWS receives thousands of comments from environmental groups, and they can get into legal situations if they don't follow the majority of the comments. Give the FWS a more balance view. Please take a few moments to read the attached short article and to comment. Please forward this to the people on your email list. Thank you.
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Article:
Wolf Delisting Comment Period Nearly Over
By Echo Renner
The US Fish & Wildlife Service (FWS) proposes to establish a distinct population segment of the gray wolf in all of Wyoming, Montana and Idaho, the eastern one third of Washington and Oregon, and a small part of north-central Utah. They also propose this distinct population to be removed from the List of Threatened and Endangered Wildlife under the Endangered Species Act (ESA). "The threats to the wolf population in the Northern Rocky Mountains (NRM) distinct population segment have been reduced or eliminated as evidenced by the population exceeding the numerical, distributional and temporal recovery goals each year since 2002," according to the Federal Register.
It goes on to say, "The states of Montana and Idaho have adopted state laws and state wolf management plans that would conserve a recovered wolf population within their boundaries into the foreseeable future. However, we have determined that Wyoming State Law do not provide the necessary regulatory mechanism to assure that Wyoming's share of the recovered wolf population will be conserved if the ESA's protection were removed."
Wyoming's Statutes and Wolf Management Plan classify the gray wolf as a 'trophy game animal' inside the National Parks and the adjacent wilderness areas, and as a 'predator animal' elsewhere in the state. The FWS rejected Wyoming's plan in January 2004, insisting that Wyoming give up its dual classification and protect the gray wolf as a 'trophy game animal' throughout the state. Wyoming continues to receive pressure to forfeit the 'predator animal' status. See attached article "Holding Strong…"
The FWS is accepting comments only through the close of business on Monday, April 10. Comments can be emailed to [email protected] and should include "RIN No. 1018-AU53" in the message subject line, or mailed to US Fish & Wildlife Service, Western Gray Wolf Recovery Coordinator, 585 Shepard Way, Helena, MT 59601. Mailed comments must be postmarked by April 10. For more information, contact Ed Bangs, FWS Western Gray Wolf Recovery Coordinator at (406) 449-5225 ext. 204.
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Holding Strong Against Broken Promises In Wolf Delisting
By Echo Renner
"Wolves are having a more severe impact on our wildlife than the federal government admitted to when they were introduced into the Yellowstone National Park a decade ago," said Harriet Hageman, attorney for the Wyoming Wolf Coalition. "They have multiplied faster, have spread further, and have impacted our livestock industry in ways that the US Fish & Wildlife Service (FWS) and wolf advocates intentionally downplayed," she added. "The FWS made two important promises to the citizens of Wyoming – that the wolves would be limited numerically to about 100 per state for Wyoming, Montana and Idaho, or 300 total; and that they would be limited geographically to the national parks and contiguous wilderness areas," explained Hageman. "In identifying and describing the anticipated wolf impacts, the FWS made it clear that wolves were "undesirable" in the vast majority of the state and that they would implement an effective management and control program to ensure that we didn't suffer the consequences of their "experiment." "Now, there are over 1,000 wolves in the three states, and the FWS refuses to limit their territory."
Hageman, attorney with Hageman & Brighton, P.C. in Cheyenne, and her law partner Kara Brighton, spoke at the Wyoming Sportsmen for Fish & Wildlife (SWF) state convention in Cody on March 31.
"The FWS Wolf Recovery Plan, Environmental Impact Statement and Final Rule state that the first time a wolf kills livestock, the wolf will be moved. The second time livestock is killed, the wolf/wolves will be lethally removed, but this is not happening." Hageman cited a situation in the summer of 2005 near Farson, where 30 sheep were killed at one time by wolves. Despite the fact that the sheep were all killed in the same area on the same night, wildlife officials would confirm only one as a wolf kill, they identified 14 others as "probably" killed by wolves, but had "no idea what happened to the other 15." Hageman said, "By reaching what was an utterly ridiculous conclusion, they were able to avoid carrying out their responsibilities, they were able to distort the true impact of wolves, and they were able to mislead the public about what the wolves are doing. They were also able to prevent that livestock producer from being compensated for his losses." The FWS is also reluctant to move wolves, "because there is nowhere to put them." They have saturated the area.
The FWS has approved Idaho and Montana's wolf management plans. In February, the Idaho Department of Fish & Game proposed the removal of 43 wolves in the Lolo Elk Management Zone, and keeping the population low for the next five years to allow the decimated elk population to recover. The green Defenders of Wildlife bombarded the Game & Fish Department with over 42,000 form comments arguing against the proposal to prevent the FWS from approving the State's plan. "That is what they get with their approved management plans. They have sold their souls to the devil," said Hageman. "They don't allow controlled hunts or aerial hunting of wolves in Idaho and Montana. It will be a minimum of five years before they allow any hunting in those states, and that is with an approved plan."
The gray wolf is the 11th most expensive species the FWS has dealt with in terms of the Endangered Species Act. "This wolf experiment has cost too much in terms of money and wildlife," said Hageman. "Margot Zalen, one of the primary federal attorneys behind the introduction of the wolves, told me the government wants to turn wolf management over to the states, because they can't afford them anymore."
Wyoming's Statutes and Wolf Management Plan classify the gray wolf as a 'trophy game animal' inside the National Parks and the adjacent wilderness areas, and as a 'predator animal' elsewhere in the state. The FWS rejected Wyoming's plan in January 2004, insisting that Wyoming give up its dual classification and protect the gray wolf as a 'trophy game animal' throughout the state. That includes areas the FWS itself identified as being "undesirable" for wolf presence because of conflicts with humans, wildlife and livestock. The State of Wyoming, Park County and the Wyoming Wolf Coalition filed suit to direct the FWS to accept the plan and proceed with delisting. They believe the FWS rejected the plan based on public relations concerns rather than the 'best science available,' which is required by the Endangered Species Act.
"The FWS wants Wyoming to take over the wolves," said Hageman. "What we get is the financial and environmental responsibility, but no authority to manage them. If the federal government can't afford to manage them, how can Wyoming possibly afford it?" she questioned. "Wyoming's legislature will be receiving a lot of pressure to get rid of the 'predator status' in our plan," said Hageman. "We need to push back. Our legislature has put us in a perfect position. Watch and see if the FWS keeps their promises to Idaho and Montana. If not, we need to tell the FWS we're not going to take over responsibility for the problems they have created."
The wolf population in Wyoming, Idaho and Montana is over 1,000 wolves. One wolf kills about two prey animals per month, just for food. "That's 24,000 prey animals killed each year just for food," commented Hageman. "The prey base in Yellowstone National Park is severely declining. I think the FWS is concerned. They don't want to be in charge of wolf management when people start figuring out there's no wildlife left. They want to turn wolf management over to the states, so the states are responsible, that's why they're pushing Wyoming." She continued, "The FWS wants Wyoming to drop it's 'predator animal' status. I say, when they give real on-the-ground authority to Idaho and Montana to manage wolves the way they need to be managed, then we can consider dropping our predator status. The federal government has to be held accountable."
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The US Fish & Wildlife Service is proposing to delist the northern gray wolf in Wyoming, Montana, Idaho and parts of Utah, Oregon & Washington. YOU have until Monday, April 10, to submit your comments. Harriet Hageman, attorney for the Wyoming Wolf Coalition, told me last week it is VERY important that we comment, because the FWS receives thousands of comments from environmental groups, and they can get into legal situations if they don't follow the majority of the comments. Give the FWS a more balance view. Please take a few moments to read the attached short article and to comment. Please forward this to the people on your email list. Thank you.
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Article:
Wolf Delisting Comment Period Nearly Over
By Echo Renner
The US Fish & Wildlife Service (FWS) proposes to establish a distinct population segment of the gray wolf in all of Wyoming, Montana and Idaho, the eastern one third of Washington and Oregon, and a small part of north-central Utah. They also propose this distinct population to be removed from the List of Threatened and Endangered Wildlife under the Endangered Species Act (ESA). "The threats to the wolf population in the Northern Rocky Mountains (NRM) distinct population segment have been reduced or eliminated as evidenced by the population exceeding the numerical, distributional and temporal recovery goals each year since 2002," according to the Federal Register.
It goes on to say, "The states of Montana and Idaho have adopted state laws and state wolf management plans that would conserve a recovered wolf population within their boundaries into the foreseeable future. However, we have determined that Wyoming State Law do not provide the necessary regulatory mechanism to assure that Wyoming's share of the recovered wolf population will be conserved if the ESA's protection were removed."
Wyoming's Statutes and Wolf Management Plan classify the gray wolf as a 'trophy game animal' inside the National Parks and the adjacent wilderness areas, and as a 'predator animal' elsewhere in the state. The FWS rejected Wyoming's plan in January 2004, insisting that Wyoming give up its dual classification and protect the gray wolf as a 'trophy game animal' throughout the state. Wyoming continues to receive pressure to forfeit the 'predator animal' status. See attached article "Holding Strong…"
The FWS is accepting comments only through the close of business on Monday, April 10. Comments can be emailed to [email protected] and should include "RIN No. 1018-AU53" in the message subject line, or mailed to US Fish & Wildlife Service, Western Gray Wolf Recovery Coordinator, 585 Shepard Way, Helena, MT 59601. Mailed comments must be postmarked by April 10. For more information, contact Ed Bangs, FWS Western Gray Wolf Recovery Coordinator at (406) 449-5225 ext. 204.
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Holding Strong Against Broken Promises In Wolf Delisting
By Echo Renner
"Wolves are having a more severe impact on our wildlife than the federal government admitted to when they were introduced into the Yellowstone National Park a decade ago," said Harriet Hageman, attorney for the Wyoming Wolf Coalition. "They have multiplied faster, have spread further, and have impacted our livestock industry in ways that the US Fish & Wildlife Service (FWS) and wolf advocates intentionally downplayed," she added. "The FWS made two important promises to the citizens of Wyoming – that the wolves would be limited numerically to about 100 per state for Wyoming, Montana and Idaho, or 300 total; and that they would be limited geographically to the national parks and contiguous wilderness areas," explained Hageman. "In identifying and describing the anticipated wolf impacts, the FWS made it clear that wolves were "undesirable" in the vast majority of the state and that they would implement an effective management and control program to ensure that we didn't suffer the consequences of their "experiment." "Now, there are over 1,000 wolves in the three states, and the FWS refuses to limit their territory."
Hageman, attorney with Hageman & Brighton, P.C. in Cheyenne, and her law partner Kara Brighton, spoke at the Wyoming Sportsmen for Fish & Wildlife (SWF) state convention in Cody on March 31.
"The FWS Wolf Recovery Plan, Environmental Impact Statement and Final Rule state that the first time a wolf kills livestock, the wolf will be moved. The second time livestock is killed, the wolf/wolves will be lethally removed, but this is not happening." Hageman cited a situation in the summer of 2005 near Farson, where 30 sheep were killed at one time by wolves. Despite the fact that the sheep were all killed in the same area on the same night, wildlife officials would confirm only one as a wolf kill, they identified 14 others as "probably" killed by wolves, but had "no idea what happened to the other 15." Hageman said, "By reaching what was an utterly ridiculous conclusion, they were able to avoid carrying out their responsibilities, they were able to distort the true impact of wolves, and they were able to mislead the public about what the wolves are doing. They were also able to prevent that livestock producer from being compensated for his losses." The FWS is also reluctant to move wolves, "because there is nowhere to put them." They have saturated the area.
The FWS has approved Idaho and Montana's wolf management plans. In February, the Idaho Department of Fish & Game proposed the removal of 43 wolves in the Lolo Elk Management Zone, and keeping the population low for the next five years to allow the decimated elk population to recover. The green Defenders of Wildlife bombarded the Game & Fish Department with over 42,000 form comments arguing against the proposal to prevent the FWS from approving the State's plan. "That is what they get with their approved management plans. They have sold their souls to the devil," said Hageman. "They don't allow controlled hunts or aerial hunting of wolves in Idaho and Montana. It will be a minimum of five years before they allow any hunting in those states, and that is with an approved plan."
The gray wolf is the 11th most expensive species the FWS has dealt with in terms of the Endangered Species Act. "This wolf experiment has cost too much in terms of money and wildlife," said Hageman. "Margot Zalen, one of the primary federal attorneys behind the introduction of the wolves, told me the government wants to turn wolf management over to the states, because they can't afford them anymore."
Wyoming's Statutes and Wolf Management Plan classify the gray wolf as a 'trophy game animal' inside the National Parks and the adjacent wilderness areas, and as a 'predator animal' elsewhere in the state. The FWS rejected Wyoming's plan in January 2004, insisting that Wyoming give up its dual classification and protect the gray wolf as a 'trophy game animal' throughout the state. That includes areas the FWS itself identified as being "undesirable" for wolf presence because of conflicts with humans, wildlife and livestock. The State of Wyoming, Park County and the Wyoming Wolf Coalition filed suit to direct the FWS to accept the plan and proceed with delisting. They believe the FWS rejected the plan based on public relations concerns rather than the 'best science available,' which is required by the Endangered Species Act.
"The FWS wants Wyoming to take over the wolves," said Hageman. "What we get is the financial and environmental responsibility, but no authority to manage them. If the federal government can't afford to manage them, how can Wyoming possibly afford it?" she questioned. "Wyoming's legislature will be receiving a lot of pressure to get rid of the 'predator status' in our plan," said Hageman. "We need to push back. Our legislature has put us in a perfect position. Watch and see if the FWS keeps their promises to Idaho and Montana. If not, we need to tell the FWS we're not going to take over responsibility for the problems they have created."
The wolf population in Wyoming, Idaho and Montana is over 1,000 wolves. One wolf kills about two prey animals per month, just for food. "That's 24,000 prey animals killed each year just for food," commented Hageman. "The prey base in Yellowstone National Park is severely declining. I think the FWS is concerned. They don't want to be in charge of wolf management when people start figuring out there's no wildlife left. They want to turn wolf management over to the states, so the states are responsible, that's why they're pushing Wyoming." She continued, "The FWS wants Wyoming to drop it's 'predator animal' status. I say, when they give real on-the-ground authority to Idaho and Montana to manage wolves the way they need to be managed, then we can consider dropping our predator status. The federal government has to be held accountable."
Northern Rancher
Well-known member
I get a kick out of the American hunters when you show them their first wolf track lol. It's a wolf track not anything to get worked up about we see them all the time.
