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BMr, Jason, Greg . . .

That Dorintosh place is a nice little ranch-kids are within walking distance of a K-8 school-it's a real fun cummunity they have a huge winter festival up the-a critter bonspiel-slow pitch tourney-country music jamboree just a busy fun little place. Like I said before it's only 5 minutes from the Provincial Park gate. You better not go look at it because you'll get hooked on it.
 
Hey NR, its good to hear that you do shop at home. I know lots who don't, and wonder how long it'll be before we all have to make the trip to the city for the most basic things? We live thirty miles from anywhere, so hit what ever place is handy on our travels.
 
You know you Sask's are making it awefully tempting to sell in Oil crazy Alta. and move to a calmer province.A bunch of us girls at work were having coffee this morning talking about and HATING the boom in our area. :?
 
Well between the reckless pace and the burdensome regulations here in Ontario, it's getting ridiculous.

What got me going was a few weeks ago, I thought I would look into putting a roof over my yard to cut down on the snow and slop that happens every fall and spring.

Not so simple. Gotta do an environmental farm plan, Nutrient Management Strategy and get an engineer's plan for a simple roof.

$$$$ and morer $$$$.

I said to heck with it, the runoff will just have to find its way into the field. I can also do some landscaping and rainwater control to reduce the amount of water getting into the yard.

But it is just a matter of time until we will be regulated into doing all the stuff that some freakin bureaucrat in Ottawa or Toronto dreamms up to "earn" his or her 100G's a year.
 
The biggest drawback to Sask is the winters.

I have heard of many native Saskabushers say the Albertans will only last 4-5 years and move back.

I spent 1 December night in the semi in Moose Jaw with that South East wind blowing... far colder than any wind I have experienced here for sure.
 
Mrs.Greg said:
You know you Sask's are making it awefully tempting to sell in Oil crazy Alta. and move to a calmer province.A bunch of us girls at work were having coffee this morning talking about and HATING the boom in our area. :?
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My friend claimed he heard on the news that there was about 27,000 moving to AB every year :(
I took a drive out the road the other day. It made me sick. Friggen new acreages everywhere poping up. There are so many damn hunters back here hunting this year that for the first time in my life im not going hunting.
1/4 sections in my area are going for $1400 an acre. Then the oil and gas sons of bitches are trying to come in here. If they do they will wreck it. In our area we have wonderful pure fresh water springs coming out of the ground at least every 1/4 mile. You can drink this water right where it comes out of the rocks. Its the best spring water that I know of in the province. Their siezmic will ruin it and what they wont ruin they will pump into their dirty wells to pressurise :( Plus look at all the friggen roads they will build!
I hope our economy tanks andI wish everything could go back the way it was :(
 
RoperAB said:
Mrs.Greg said:
You know you Sask's are making it awefully tempting to sell in Oil crazy Alta. and move to a calmer province.A bunch of us girls at work were having coffee this morning talking about and HATING the boom in our area. :?
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My friend claimed he heard on the news that there was about 27,000 moving to AB every year :(
I took a drive out the road the other day. It made me sick. Friggen new acreages everywhere poping up. There are so many damn hunters back here hunting this year that for the first time in my life im not going hunting.
1/4 sections in my area are going for $1400 an acre. Then the oil and gas sons of bitches are trying to come in here. If they do they will wreck it. In our area we have wonderful pure fresh water springs coming out of the ground at least every 1/4 mile. You can drink this water right where it comes out of the rocks. Its the best spring water that I know of in the province. Their siezmic will ruin it and what they wont ruin they will pump into their dirty wells to pressurise :( Plus look at all the friggen roads they will build!
I hope our economy tanks andI wish everything could go back the way it was :(
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Oh man ..I hear ya...thing is the oil companys are already in our area. Can't drive hwy 36 without passing rig after rig...a huge "Pain in the rear"this boom is :evil:
 
Jason said:
The biggest drawback to Sask is the winters.

I have heard of many native Saskabushers say the Albertans will only last 4-5 years and move back.

I spent 1 December night in the semi in Moose Jaw with that South East wind blowing... far colder than any wind I have experienced here for sure.
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Wooossseee :wink: :frowns: :cowboy: That blue guy isn't a frown it's Jason in MJ :lol: :lol:
 
I hear what you mean about the 'Oil Boom' having it's dark side. Hardisty used to be such a quiet town when I was a kid, but now there's so much oil and gas activity in the area, you don't know half the people in town, and alot of them don't want to get to know you because they know they'll be leaving again in a few months.

A woman in the restaurant looked at me funny last week because we made our 3 year old say 'Yes Ma'am' when the waitress asked him a question. She came over and said, "Hearing someone call me Ma'am just makes me feel old." I told her, "I'm sorry it's been so long since you've heard it that you forgot what it means."

Oh the times, they are a changin'... :cry:

Doesn't mean I won't drill it into our kids to show respect when it needs to be shown. I guess I'll just have to educate others too as we go along.
 
Maple Leaf Angus said:
Well between the reckless pace and the burdensome regulations here in Ontario, it's getting ridiculous.

What got me going was a few weeks ago, I thought I would look into putting a roof over my yard to cut down on the snow and slop that happens every fall and spring.

Not so simple. Gotta do an environmental farm plan, Nutrient Management Strategy and get an engineer's plan for a simple roof.

$$$$ and morer $$$$.

I said to heck with it, the runoff will just have to find its way into the field. I can also do some landscaping and rainwater control to reduce the amount of water getting into the yard.

But it is just a matter of time until we will be regulated into doing all the stuff that some freakin bureaucrat in Ottawa or Toronto dreamms up to "earn" his or her 100G's a year.
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Our municipality (Morley) is the only one in our District (Rainy River) and possibly the only one in Ontario that doesn't have building permits. Nutrient management doesn't concern us at all due to the fact that the nearest official is 2 1/2 hours away in Kenora and doesn't have the time to waste to come down and inspect farms due to the sheer number of cottages that have to be monitored for sewage violations in that area. Might pay a visit if you got a complaint, but we live 45 minutes from the nearest large town and 30 minutes from any town-thinking folks. People who live in our municipality are either farmers or work in the forestry industry.

The number of farmers around here who have done an environmental farm plan can probably be counted on the fingers of two hands. As long as the towns pump treated (and in cases of surge storms, untreated) sewage into the rivers and lakes, in combination with chemical effluent from the paper mills, we couldn't care in the least about nutrient management.
 
Jason said:
I spent 1 December night in the semi in Moose Jaw with that South East wind blowing... far colder than any wind I have experienced here for sure.
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<chuckle> Went I first moved to Regina and experienced that southern Sask wind, I thought I was going to die. Northern Sask doesn't get the wind like they do down south.

Of course, then I visited Winnipeg and felt what wind really was......

Rod
 
What a coincidence. On an impulse, this week I started thinking about the possibility of raising cattle elsewhere and thought of Saskatchewan. Last night I spoke with my younger cousin who is in the dairy business a few miles away from our farm and he tells me that he is thinking of selling his small, heavily leveraged farm and going to a lower cost area.

Today he and his wife is leaving for Alta.and Sask. to visit his uncle who is an oilfield engineer in Alberta and then into Saskatchewan to see what is available. This kid is an ambitious, smart young fellow who is very good with livestock. His wife, a very fine woman, is a nurse and they have 2 beautiful little kids.

With him being less than 30 years old, I don't think his timing could be better. At 50, the thought of moving into a completely new area leaves me feeling kinda tired.

Neither of us knew the other was thinking along these lines. So, is it a matter of great minds thinking alike, or fools seldom differing? :lol:
 
A bunch of young folks from this area bought ranches in Sask in the same area, and equipment and labor share, plus have the built in support system necessary to make the adjustment easier. Its a good plan, I think.
 
I really think the main thing about moving is find an area you can deal with for everything. It might be great in the summer...or winter but what about the rest of the year?

I could almost pencil a huge expansion in Sask. except the labor factors. That's the real killer. What's the point of just taking on more work in a different area? The reason to move would be to improve some aspect of your life. If you sacrifice friends or family for more work...not much of a trade.

And I still get cold just thinking of that blame wind....
 
Larger number of acres..more cows... trying to make more money...means more work to pay for it all.

Having a large land base with little debt is a different animal, but when you borrow to buy payments don't wait. You have to be sufficient size to make the payments and live. It would require at least 1 good man and maybe 2 for the size I looked at.
 

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