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Border collie info update

Well Hillsdown-- we have raised working cattle dogs since back in the 1940's- both border collies and blue/red healers for awhile-- some of which had the first bloodlines in this country--- BUT found - just like cattle- all the paperwork- and promotion , emotion and commotion means little if they won't do the job..

I have raised registered Border Collies- but found out the best dogs come from not from how fancy their papers were- but how their parents- and siblings actually perform- with real cattle in a real cattle situation (not out chasing "gooses" or "goats".....

My old 9 year old male still works his rear off- and puts more bite in his pups than most can believe-- and has pups sired by him are on places from Iowa to Washington...I lost my old female (who was mother of over 100 pups) about two years ago-- and have a red border collie replacement out of the Rockglen area (from working parents) that is showing tremendous cow (which means then the biggest part of it is now just spending time to get them to understand what you want them to do...) Her first litter already shows they have knowledge.....

But 90% of making a good cattle dog- IF they have the bred in "cow" is not how fancy their papers/pedigrees- or how much they cost- but how much time you want to spend working with them-- and especially not over hurrying them....And those with proven parents just take that much less time to work with....
 
Peter Gonnets Moss is a very good dog and is a good breeder. I have a granddaughter of Moss here now. Nice 2 yr old bench. Plenty of power along with fineness . Van De Zweeps Glen will not be hard to find out about. I think Glen might have come from the UK. Go to the ISDS web site and look at the world trial section. PM me if you would like.
 
My old male-- Spuds Jud #152805 (named after a knarly old Missouri River cowboy- Jud Twitchell) is sired by Lonerider Spud- out of Rebel Rose- both of which were raised by Terry and Cathy Kombol out of Roundup Mt....Both he and my old female traced back several times to Hanging Tree bloodlines- which I've attributed to the bite they have- which many of the yearling folks really liked.....
 
Just wanted to echo the "see the parents work" response. It is so important to see the parents work, and possibly other pups from the same cross (older). The best pedigree doesn't mean a lot when your dog is staring down the flaring nostrils coming at high speed to plow them over. These days with youtube, it's very easy to see them work.
 
hillsdown said:
Well after losing our beloved border collie to stage 4 transitional cell carcinoma Aug. 15 of this year I am ready for a new best friend and right hand gal.
Steffie wasn't anything fancy pedigree wise but she was smart as a whip, gorgeous and had heart full of love for everyone, except for unruly cattle.
We have started looking for our new addition and have spoken to a few breeders but I am not up on the lineage and what it all means. So can anyone help me with this sire and dam. The puppies have just started to open their eyes and we will be taking a look at them in a couple of weeks.
I have called my cousin Dale to see if he has any pups available but am waiting to hear back..

The dam is my nice young Nursery dog( Cally). Cally is very keen to work, a good listener, with a very nice friendly outgoing attitude. Her sire is Linda Froehlich's Robbie( full brother to Peter Gonnets Moss). Sire of puppies is handsome keen import from Holland. ( Son of Serge Van De Zweeps) Glen who placed 3rd at 2005 World Championships. Also was the Dutch National Champion.
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Thank you ..
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Your cousin Dale? Is that Dale M from Maple Creek?
 

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