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If you ain't watching TV-- turn on FOX News-- Minneapolis just had 4 sections of a 4 lane interstate going across the Mississippi River collapse...Folks in the water, cars in the water, vehicles on fire,--could be 15 to 60 cars in the water and on the bridge decks.....
 
:shock: I'm just watching that on our station,cut into regular news. It sure doesn't look good :(
 
It will be interesting to hear what caused this -- I've heard 2 people they interviewed so far mention they thought it may be related to the unnormal extreme heat spell...

Hard to believe that the heat could stress the metal that bad-- but I am aware that on a couple of those 100-110+ days the rails on the railroad bent so bad they had to shut the trains down-- and several of the days this summer they have had to put 35-45 mph speed limits on the trains because of heat warping rails.....
 
Everyonce in a while when I drive over one of the bigger rivers I get that nightmare thought of what if something happens to the bridge.. I-80 over the Mississippi would be an awful long fall as would a lot of the bridges over teh Illinois, Ohio and other Mississippi crossings around here.. LEft enough cleaance for navel ships for some reason.
 
At least three people are confirmed dead after a bridge collapses into the Mississippi River in Minnesota, state officials say.
 
Been one of my pet peeves for years-- Our government can send foreign aid around the world and build bridges and dams in Timbuktu-- but they haven't been maintaining many of the ones in their own backyard....

I heard a county commissioner last year talking about a very weak and dangerous bridge-- his answer for getting it fixed, was to put a weight limit on it and hope some overweight truck drove over it and broke thru or caused it to collapse, so they could get the truckdrivers insurance to pay for it :roll: :shock:


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Bridge collapse no freak accident
U.S. infrastructure on verge of total failure, says expert

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Posted: August 2, 2007
7:43 p.m. Eastern



© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com


Interstate 35W bridge in Minneapolis after collapse Wednesday (Courtesy St. Paul Pioneer Press)
WASHINGTON – Americans breathed a sigh a relief when they learned the disastrous bridge collapse in Minneapolis was not an act of terror.

But the fatal failure of the 40-year-old structure may be worse news in the long run for the nation than had it fallen victim to an attack, says Thomas Rooney, president of Insituform Technologies of St. Louis, Mo.

"The U.S. Department of Transportation says 100,000 bridges in this country are structurally deficient," he says. "If 1 percent of 1 percent of these dangerous structures collapse, that is not accidental. That is predictable."

As bad as they are, bridges are in better shape than the rest of our infrastructure, says Rooney.

The EPA reports 3.5 million people got sick last year from 73,000 sewer pipe breaks around the country.

"Maybe some were accidents," he says. "But when something happens 73,000 times, that is no longer accidental. That is negligence."


Water pipes are even worse. In some parts of America, 50 percent of the drinking water leaks from bad pipes after it is treated but before it reaches the home, reports Rooney.

"Water officials mistakenly believe that it is cheaper to shove more water through leaky pipes than fix them," he says.

Rooney said last month's pipe explosion in Manhattan was also discounted as a mere accident.

"But these catastrophes were not accidents," says Rooney. "Not if the word has any meaning. Immediately following the bridge collapse, Minnesota officials said the same things as their counterparts in Manhattan just a few weeks ago. They had recently inspected the bridge and the pipe. And so it could not have been their fault."

Rooney continues: "As president of the largest sewer, oil and pipe repair company in the world, I've heard that excuse before – 73,000 times last year alone."

About 30 percent of America's nearly 500,000 bridges are categorized as "deficient" and in "urgent need of repair." In 11 Northeastern states, 50 percent of bridges not only need urgent repairs but are not designed to handle current traffic levels. Many of the bridges are 50 years or older – considerably older than the bridge in Minneapolis.

In New York, the Brooklyn Bridge opened in 1883. The George Washington Bridge opened in 1931. It still carries 300,000 vehicles a day.

An estimated $1.6 trillion is needed over five years to bring America's infrastructure up it to "safe standards."

"The nation is failing to even maintain the substandard conditions we currently have," said the report card from the American Society of Civil Engineers, "a dangerous trend that is affecting highway safety, as well as the health of the economy."

"Ignoring bad infrastructure and hoping it will do no harm is not an option anymore," says Rooney. "Places that take care of their infrastructure are safer, healthier and more prosperous."
 
You probably don't want to know just how bad this really is.

So don't click this next link, where the American Society of Civil Engineers tells you how bad it is.

To remedy America's current and looming problems, ASCE estimates an investment need of $1.6 trillion over a five-year period from all levels of government and the private sector. This amount does not include estimates for infrastructure security needs.

Both drinking water and wastewater declined from a D to a D- in the past four years. The nation's drinking water system faces a staggering public investment need to replace aging facilities, comply with safe drinking water regulations and meet future needs. Federal funding in 2005 remains at $850 million, less than 10 percent of the total national requirement. Aging wastewater systems discharge billions of gallons of untreated sewage into U.S. surface waters each year. The EPA estimates that the nation must invest $390 billion over the next 20 years to replace existing wastewater systems and build new ones to meet increasing demand.

Of the 257 locks on the more than 12,000 miles of inland waterways operated by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, nearly 50 percent are functionally obsolete. By 2020, the number will increase to 80 percent.

Poor road conditions cost U.S. motorists $54 billion a year in repairs and operating costs - $275 per motorist. Americans spend 3.5 billion hours a year stuck in traffic, at a cost of $63 billion a year to the economy.

The U.S. power transmission system is in urgent need of modernization. Despite increased demand, transmission capacity has decreased. In addition, maintenance expenditures have decreased 1 percent annually since 1992.

For hazardous waste, federal funding for cleanup of the nation's worst toxic waste sites has steadily decreased since 1998, reaching its lowest level since 1986 in fiscal year 2005. There are 1,237 contaminated sites on the National Priorities List, with a possible addition of 10,154. In 2003, there were 205 cities with "brownfields" sites awaiting cleanup that would generate an estimated 576,373 jobs and $1.9 million annually if redeveloped.

one in three urban bridges was classified as structurally deficient or functionally obsolete, much higher than the national average. It will cost $9.4 billion a year for 20 years to eliminate all bridge deficiencies and long-term underinvestment is compounded by the lack of a federal transportation program.

since 1998, the number of unsafe dams has risen by 33 percent to more than 3,500. It will take $10.1 billion over the next 12 years to address all critical non-federal dams, dams which can pose a direct threat to human life should they fail.

That $1,000,000,000,000 we are borrowing from China for the war in Iraq would go a long way to making our country a better place to live, wouldn't it?
 
Goodpasture said:
That $1,000,000,000,000 we are borrowing from China for the war in Iraq would go a long way to making our country a better place to live, wouldn't it?

Sure, if we don't mind being under Muslem rule, a few years down the road.
 
Jinglebob said:
Goodpasture said:
That $1,000,000,000,000 we are borrowing from China for the war in Iraq would go a long way to making our country a better place to live, wouldn't it?

Sure, if we don't mind being under Muslem rule, a few years down the road.
Western Society has survived Muslim aggression for more than 1400 years. I'm not going to wet MY pants everytime some rag headed cave dweller makes a threat.....you're free to do so though.
 
McCain Raps Congress for Bridge Collapse
NewsMax.com Wires
Sunday, Aug. 5, 2007


ANKENY, Iowa -- Republican John McCain said Saturday that Congress could share in the blame for the Minnesota bridge collapse because lawmakers diverted billions of dollars in transportation money from road work to pet projects.

"I think perhaps you can make the argument that part of the responsibility lies with the Congress of the United States," the Arizona senator said.

McCain said Congress spent roughly $20 billion on special-interest projects when it approved a new highway bill, signed into law by President Bush.

"We spent approximately $20 billion of that money on pork barrel, earmark projects," said McCain. "Maybe if we had done it right, maybe some of that money would have gone to inspect those bridges and other bridges around the country. Maybe the 200,000 people who cross that bridge every day would have been safer than spending $233 million of your tax dollars on a bridge in Alaska to an island with 50 people on it."

McCain spoke during a town hall-style meeting with activists, saying he was angered not just by Congress wasting money on special projects, but also by it approving reform packages he labeled a sham.

"I'm angry today because we just had a chance to reform this process in Washington and we punted," said McCain. "We pushed off on the American people a joke and a sham in the name of earmark reform."

The term "earmark" refers to projects favored by individual lawmakers that are inserted into larger spending packages, often winning approval without debate.

Meeting with reporters after his session, McCain deflected questions about whether the bridge collapse could have been avoided if more had been spent on safety and inspections.

"The tragedy of the bridge over the Mississippi River is one that I don't know if it could have been avoided or not," McCain said. "Clearly inspections are needed of bridges and that's why the Department of Transportation has ordered them."

In the wake of the deadly collapse, federal transportation officials and those in many states have stepped up their inspections of bridges of a similar design to the one that collapsed into the Mississippi River.

The Senate has overwhelmingly approved legislation backers said is aimed at reforming the process of individual lawmakers slipping special projects into spending packages, but McCain dismissed that effort.

"We just completed a joke and a sham on the American people with pretended reform that we just passed," said McCain. "It does not attack seriously the earmark."


http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/8/4/151348.shtml?s=lh
 

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