andybob
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British foot and mouth still active
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Golly Gee Whiz-Gosh Darn-- and the UK has some of the strongest Mandatory ID laws in the world...You'd think that Mandatory ID program would prevent those problems and diseases--or anyway thats what our USDA/AMI/WTO/NCBA folks tell us and would like us to believe :wink: :lol: :lol:
The cattle ID laws over here are strict, the problem is the few cattle dealers who are want to switch ID's etc., it's like anything if someone wants to get around it, a way will be found.
The foot and mouth seems to be contained within are small region and because of the previous outbreak in August the movements of livestock have been severely restricted so hopefully this outbreak will stay contained. I notice today though we also have a reported case of Blue Tongue, a disease that effects ruminants, see http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7009288.stm for reports.
The foot and mouth seems to be contained within are small region and because of the previous outbreak in August the movements of livestock have been severely restricted so hopefully this outbreak will stay contained. I notice today though we also have a reported case of Blue Tongue, a disease that effects ruminants, see http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7009288.stm for reports.
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Thank You Nigel for confirming something I've always said--anything made by man can be altered or counterfeited if the gain for doing so is big enough....
Sorry for my sarcastic remarks-- but our current government administration that wants to use our Constitution for toilet paper, the Ag Dept. (USDA), the packers and their backers, the NCBA and AMI--have all been putting out all this info about how these expensive mandatory ID systems will prevent cattle from getting disease- and immediately solve every problem when we do...Bull Puckey......
Apparently Montana now has an outbreak of Blue Tongue in deer and sheep in the southern part of the state....The state vet has quarantined and stopped movements on sheep in several counties--but the problem should quickly solve itself with the cold weather killing the gnats...
We definitely don't have to worry further north here- as we've had several hard freezes and its froze every night this past week--with temps getting down in the mid teens...Gnats are gone.....
Sorry for my sarcastic remarks-- but our current government administration that wants to use our Constitution for toilet paper, the Ag Dept. (USDA), the packers and their backers, the NCBA and AMI--have all been putting out all this info about how these expensive mandatory ID systems will prevent cattle from getting disease- and immediately solve every problem when we do...Bull Puckey......
Apparently Montana now has an outbreak of Blue Tongue in deer and sheep in the southern part of the state....The state vet has quarantined and stopped movements on sheep in several counties--but the problem should quickly solve itself with the cold weather killing the gnats...
We definitely don't have to worry further north here- as we've had several hard freezes and its froze every night this past week--with temps getting down in the mid teens...Gnats are gone.....
We could do with some colder weather now to lessen any risk of Blue Tongue developing further. It's not on the seriousness level of FMD but most unwelcome nonetheless.
As for cattle ID's, all cattle "should" be tagged within 24hrs of birth and registered with the government dept within 36hrs and a "passport" is issued which should stay with the animal whenever it's sold or moved to a different holding. All ear tags carry the official herd number and the animal ID#. Should the animal die then in theory the passport should be returned to the government dept with the death details filled in. The more unscrupulous have realized that by not notifying them, the passport can be held back and then the ID transferred to another animal that either is unregistered for whatever reason. Compulsory ID'ing of cattle will not particularly solve any disease problem, it may make traceability a little easier but if someone out there is cheating the system then it amounts to nothing. No need to apologize about sarcastic remarks, I know where you're coming from.
As for cattle ID's, all cattle "should" be tagged within 24hrs of birth and registered with the government dept within 36hrs and a "passport" is issued which should stay with the animal whenever it's sold or moved to a different holding. All ear tags carry the official herd number and the animal ID#. Should the animal die then in theory the passport should be returned to the government dept with the death details filled in. The more unscrupulous have realized that by not notifying them, the passport can be held back and then the ID transferred to another animal that either is unregistered for whatever reason. Compulsory ID'ing of cattle will not particularly solve any disease problem, it may make traceability a little easier but if someone out there is cheating the system then it amounts to nothing. No need to apologize about sarcastic remarks, I know where you're coming from.
katrina
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Welcome to the boards Nigel..... Would be great to see some pictures of your country and cattle........ 
andybob
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I agree with Katrina, welcome to the forum where in the UK are you?katrina said:Welcome to the boards Nigel..... Would be great to see some pictures of your country and cattle........
I just hope that the government deals more effectively with this outbreak than they did with the last one!
katrina said:Welcome to the boards Nigel..... Would be great to see some pictures of your country and cattle........
Sorry for my delay in replying. I've been lurking for a little while now. I joined here as I have an interest in cattle and ranching and the American West in general. I have just finished reading a good book by David McCumber, The Cowboy Way, Seasons of a Montana Rancher, an insight into working on a "proper" working ranch. I also receive Working Ranch magazine which keeps me up to date on ranching news.
I have worked in agriculture for the last 18 years, 13 years actually working on farms and the last 5 in an farming related business.
I live in East Yorkshire in a farming community, much of the locality is rolling countryside, what are know as the "Yorkshire Wolds". Below is a pic, albeit not a very good one of the "wolds". Much of the land is given over to crops but there is a lot of livestock grazing on the land to steep to crop. I will try to post some pics of the cattle in my area. I don't have cattle of my own at this moment.
The cattle aren't mine but a local farmers. Typical of many in the area.
katrina
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Dang that is neat Nigel........ Thanks for posting the pics..... What time is it over there???? 
Looks like nice cattle.... Pretty good quality......
Looks like nice cattle.... Pretty good quality......katrina
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Good night nigel...... It's 4:50pm So time for chores and supper.....
Red Robin
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I enjoy our posts from other parts of the world. Nigel your neck of the woods is similiar to the terrain around here. We don't have crops though but if we didn't have so much good cropland in the U.S. this area would be worth putting some crops in. They farmed a lot of it up into the 40's or 50's maybe.