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Brucellosis is a BIG problem in Montana

Liberty Belle

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Shouldn't the feds be forced to eradicate brucellosis in their wildlife before the disease eradicates Montana's ranchers?

Cattle disease zoning splits ranchers
By JENNIFER McKEE
Gazette State Bureau


HELENA - A plan to split Montana into two zones to manage a cattle disease has likewise divided the state's two largest cattle groups.

Now, the fate of the plan itself is unknown. Without it, all Montana ranchers could face roadblocks to selling their cattle out of state if another case of brucellosis is found in the state within the next 18 months. However, others fear the plan would create an animal disease sacrifice zone in Montana and waste valuable time and energy better spent keeping brucellosis out of the state entirely.

"For every upside (to the plan), there is also a big concern against implementing it," said Christian Mackay, the Montana Board of Livestock's executive officer. "We mostly need to hear from the (livestock) industry as to what they think."

A split state When seven cows in Montana tested positive for brucellosis in May, it started a federal clock ticking. If another Montana animal comes down with the disease in the next 18 months, the federal government would revoke Montana's official "brucellosis-free" status. That would force ranchers to spend time and money testing certain cattle bound for out-of-state markets. Others, like ranchers who specialize in breeding stock, could have a more difficult time selling their cattle products to buyers wary of the disease.

Brucellosis is a disease of cattle, bison and elk that can cause females to abort their offspring. After years of effort, the disease has been eradicated in almost all American cattle, although it persists in bison and elk of Yellowstone National Park. The disease was first transmitted to park wildlife by domestic stock decades ago.

Gov. Brian Schweitzer said in an interview last week that he started looking for a way to soften the blow of brucellosis should another case appear. At Schweitzer's prodding, officials with the Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service, the federal agency that oversees agricultural health and enforces federal brucellosis rules, told the governor this summer that there was one potential way Montana could blunt the full impact of a second brucellosis case.

If or when a second case comes up, Montana could apply for something called "split-state status." Under this scenario, APHIS would break Montana into two zones. One zone would be the area around Yellowstone National Park, where brucellosis is most likely to appear in domestic livestock. The other zone would be the rest of the state. Only the Yellowstone zone would lose its brucellosis-free status, and ranchers there would be subject to the federal rules requiring more testing. The rest of the state would be considered disease-free.

Schweitzer said he sees merit in pursuing the split-state idea. Ideally, no more cattle would contract the disease, he said. But if a second one does appear, the state could be ready to apply for split-state status by starting now to meet APHIS' 11 requirements for the designation.

"If we do get a second case, then we can proactively make sure the rest of Montana still doesn't lose," he said.

Schweitzer also said he doesn't want to force the idea on the cattle industry. He turned the idea over to the Montana Board of Livestock to get a sense of what ranchers want.

Worlds apart

If the official stance of Montana's two largest cattle groups is any indication, however, the industry appears divided.

The Montana Stockgrowers Association has formally come out against split-state status. Errol Rice, the group's executive director, said creating a disease zone around Yellowstone would divide Montana ranchers at a time when the industry will need to be united against the common threat of disease. He also said gaining the status would involve a lot of work for little guaranteed benefit. While the federal government may recognize Montana's split status, any individual state could choose not to recognize the designation, which is quite rare for brucellosis. Already, North Dakota has put up barriers to Montana cattle coming into that state from most Montana counties that are not close to the North Dakota line.

Rice said he thought it made more sense for Montana to put its energies into regaining the entire state's brucellosis-free status, rather than excluding a small piece, should the disease recur.

Finally, he said, there's a sentiment among some Yellowstone area ranchers that the split-state idea relegates them to a brucellosis sacrifice zone.

"We feel a little bit discriminated against here," he said, adding that the agencies charged with managing the elk and bison that transmit brucellosis to cattle have so far failed to get the disease out of the wild animals, while local ranchers pay the price.

The Montana Cattlemen's Association, meanwhile, has come out in favor of the plan. The group hosted a series of meetings over the late summer and fall with ranchers to see where they stand on the split-state plan.

"There's a whole lot of Montana that's outside the area of high risk," said Jeremy Seidlitz, that group's executive director. "This is just a way to protect the rest of the state."

Seidlitz said he doesn't think the proposal pits rancher against rancher. Instead, it offers a way to help some Montana ranchers while the state works to get the disease out of the Yellowstone zone, too.

"This is just a short-term solution to protect our industry," he said.

Seidlitz said he thinks the split among ranchers is based more on geographical lines than philosophical ones. The ranchers within the would-be disease zone oppose being broken away from other Montana ranchers and subjected to more onerous rules. But ranchers farther away from the park generally support the idea, under the argument that why should they suffer for a disease their animals are very unlikely to have.

Not a long-term answer

Even if Montana ended up with a split-state status, it would not be a long-term solution to the brucellosis problem, said Teresa Howes, an APHIS spokeswoman. The federal government has spent billions of dollars trying to eradicate the disease from America's cattle as a whole. Today, every state except Texas is classified as brucellosis-free.

Whenever the disease pops up again, it causes international trade problems, she said. So, even if the agency recognized a Yellowstone zone as having brucellosis, APHIS would continue to work to wipe the disease out of that area, too.

Schweitzer said he is waiting to hear the Board of Livestock's recommendations, although he referred to the split-state concept as a potential "life rope" for the majority of Montana ranchers.

Schweitzer said he is especially concerned about the Montana ranchers who specialize in purebred cattle and can fetch top dollar for frozen calf embryos or bull semen from their cattle lines. Losing the brucellosis-free status could deal the biggest blow to that part of Montana's cattle industry.

Mackay said the livestock board will take up the issue at its next meeting in early November. For now, Mackay said, he is withholding judgment on the split-state idea, adding that he has heard from ranchers on all sides of the issue.

One thing everyone seems to agree on is the need for a permanent solution to the Yellowstone Park brucellosis problem. The disease has been purged from Montana's cattle herd for more than 20 years. The only reason it persists as a threat today is because bison and elk in Yellowstone National Park carry the disease, which, ironically, they originally contracted from domestic cattle.

"A lot of folks would like to see ranch practices applied to Yellowstone," Seidlitz said.

October 29, 2007.
 
Went to a meeting Friday that Idaho Fish and Game and Idaho Department of Ag had about brucellosis, Wyoming Game and Fish were there too. It was mainly to do with elk on cattle feed grounds along the state line in the winter. Also they covered herd plans for Idaho, (Wyoming are handled by APHIS).
During the meeting there was talk about how many more elk and fewer deer then 30 years ago. To which I piped up and said when there a fire on BLM or Forest Service there is no cattle grazing for 3 years, BLM and Forest circus saying they are making more deer habitat that way. But range cons from University Of Wyoming have said they are making more Elk habitat. I was sitting next to the Wyoming G&F biologist and he whispered that I was not totally right and we talk after the meeting. Well during Wyoming G&F power point they were showing slides of cutting and burning conifer, aspen and brush to make better elk habitat……Now are not deer more of a browser then a grazer.
 
This is really a dicey issue....Many in my area would like to see the Yellowstone area created into a seperate Bangs area--hoping to protect the rest of the States Bangs free status...

But as opponents have noted- even setting that up Federally does not mean that other states have to recognize it...The added cost of more testing within the zone, may raise costs and drive more ranchers out of business in that area- then accomplishing what the Greeny weenies and Park Service want- an expanded Park which would just keep expanding with the addition of new " free-zones" or "buffer zones" that the elk and buffalo graze on..

And from what I understand the folks that own the actual diseased herd, live outside the boundary that is currently proposed (altho some of the cattle came from insided the area)- and altho its assumed that the herd was infected by elk or buffalo wandering out of the Park (and elk will wander 100's of miles) - it was never conclusive-- and they did have imported UNVACCINATED corrientes in their herd which tested positive.... :roll:

While we haven't had a Park Service, Forest Service or USDA that would do much on this issue for years-- this current USDA has been almost worthless, with the standard Bush "ain't my problem, jack" answer.....Nobody in federal government wants to accept responsibility for their elk and buffalo herds...

A continuation of the breakdown in this USDA's role to protect livestock herd health which has also been shown with the changing of the BSE standards to fit the Packers pocket books, the continued importation of Mexican cattle from a country infected with TB and Brucellosis, their efforts to open up beef trade with Foot and Mouth countries like Argentina, Brazil and China, and now even proposing to drop the national Bangs monitoring and vaccination program..... :roll: :(
 
In meetings I have attended it has been reccomended that those who ranch near a elk feeding ground change their calving dates to cut the chance of bangs . I assume that moving the calving location as far away from the feed ground as possible would also be benifical
 
Oldtimer, what would stop your state from demanding that the feds test all of THEIR livestock, i.e. elk and buffalo, make them slaughter the diseased animals and vaccinate the rest. The feds are pretty big on demanding that the states knuckle under to federal demands and I can see absolutely NO constitutional basis for that, can you? The way I read the constitution, the states are supposed to be calling the shots, not the other way around. What's with this?
 
Liberty Belle said:
Oldtimer, what would stop your state from demanding that the feds test all of THEIR livestock, i.e. elk and buffalo, make them slaughter the diseased animals and vaccinate the rest. The feds are pretty big on demanding that the states knuckle under to federal demands and I can see absolutely NO constitutional basis for that, can you? The way I read the constitution, the states are supposed to be calling the shots, not the other way around. What's with this?

Liberty Belle-- back thru many a President- and many a Governor-- we have demanded that the Feds do something about their diseased livestock- and pretty much get the cold shoulder...And this is not just a Montana problem- as the park affects 2 more states, Wyo and Idaho...

We've tried to get them to control the overpopulation-- which overgrazes the park and then drives the buffalo and elk out into the states- but then the bunny huggers all protest... But Yellowstone is like Indian rez's and Washington D.C.-- untouchable by state law....

The state has had brand inspectors- and game wardens down there shooting buffalo as they came out-- herding them back-- issued hunting permits-- gave tribes hunting permits--etc. etc. You name it- its been tried...When they loaded up a bunch of buffalo and hauled to them to slaughter all the bunny huggers were there protesting....

But until the Feds will recognize it as a problem- and take an active role in doing something-- nobody will be able to do anything...The last wild idea they had was transplanting the wolves in to control the bison/elk population- but they forgot to tell the wolves where the park borders were too.... :roll:

I have my answer for the problem-- for the Feds/State to isolate the area by allowing only horse grazing for a 20 mile area of where these buffalo travel- and then pay those ranchers around $1000 head to run/board all the deserted and abandoned horses that the save a horse nuts won't allow slaughtered now- all to be paid for by increased taxes on those California PETA/Save a horse nut members like ol Bo Derek....

I see the board of Livestock was meeting today-- and leaning toward setting up the 2 zones-- which I understand is what the Gov is backing...
 
I was wrong-- the Gov didn't get his way....

Panelists nix split zone for cattle
Brucellosis plan opposed by Montana Stockgrowers
By JENNIFER McKEE
Gazette State Bureau

HELENA - After hours of rancorous debate punctuated by yelling and boos from the audience, the Montana Board of Livestock on Tuesday stepped away from a plan to split Montana into two zones to manage a dreaded cattle disease.

On a 6-1 vote, the seven-member panel that governs the Montana Department of Livestock decided to pursue other ways of preventing the spread of brucellosis from infected bison and elk in Yellowstone National Park into Montana's neighboring cattle.

The decision does not mean the state will never pursue a so-called "split state" to deal with brucellosis, said board Chairman William Hedstrom. Something major, like a second case of the disease or an outcry from ranchers, would have to come up before the board would consider the issue again, he said in an interview after the meeting.

"This has divided the industry, and the board is divided," Hedstrom said of the issue and the board's carefully worded resolution on the matter. It seemed to remove split-state status from consideration while not fully closing the door on the idea. Gov. Brian Schweitzer said the decision represented "misinformation" spread by the lobbyist of the Montana Stockgrowers Association. The group's lobbyist ought to be personally blamed when or if another case brucellosis comes up and all of Montana is saddled with the stiffer restrictions that brucellosis brings, the governor said.

"They were misled by the lobbyist of Montana Stockgrowers Association," he said of the outspoken group of ranchers who testified at Tuesday's meeting. "They were given faulty information by the lobbyist who knew it would get people excited."

Errol Rice, executive director of the Montana Stockgrowers Association and one of the group's registered lobbyists, applauded the board's decision to stand up to Schweitzer, who appointed five of the board's seven members.

"The industry spoke today, and the board grudgingly put to rest the governor's marching orders," Rice said.

Brucellosis is primarily a cattle disease, although it can affect wildlife and people. Since the 1930s, the federal government has pursued efforts to eradicate the disease from American cattle. Today, only Texas is known to have brucellosis in its herds.

However, the disease persists in bison and elk in Yellowstone National Park, and the wild animals can spread the disease to cattle on neighboring ranchers. In recent years, both Wyoming and Idaho have found the disease in cattle near the park.

Montana had not seen a case of the disease for more than 20 years until last May, when livestock near Bridger tested positive for the disease.

Those cases prompted the slaughter of all 600 head of cattle in the affected herd and started a clock ticking: If a second case of the disease appears in Montana cattle in another 18 months, the state will lose its brucellosis-free status.

Losing that designation will force some ranchers to spend time and money testing cattle before selling to out-of-state markets. Other ranchers who specialize in cattle genetics may have a harder time selling frozen calf embryos or bull semen if Montana is known to have the disease.

At Schweitzer's request, the federal Animal Health and Inspection Service, which oversees national brucellosis rules, told Montana officials this summer that the federal government would consider splitting Montana into two zones if another case of the disease appears in that time.

One zone around Yellowstone would be considered affected by brucellosis. The rest of the state would be considered brucellosis-free.

Schweitzer said he told the Montana Board of Livestock to find out what the cattle industry thought of the plan, which Schweitzer described Tuesday as a "life rope."

The state's two largest cattle groups split over topic, with the Montana Stockgrowers Association coming out vocally against it and the Montana Cattlemen's Association supporting it.

Most of those who spoke at Tuesday's meeting were strongly against the idea, saying it would pit Montana ranchers against one another and waste time and money needed for the entire state to reclaim its brucellosis status.

Others said there's no guarantee that other states would accept the split-state status, which had never been done before.

State Rep. Debby Barrett, R-Dillon, a rancher in southwestern Montana, spoke against the idea. She said she was pleased with the board's decision.

"It's better than it was at the beginning of the day," Barrett said of the debate. "That's encouraging."

Many board members said that although they didn't want to pursue the controversial split-status decision, they also didn't want to rule it out should another case of the disease come up. Others, like Janice French, a board member from Hobson, said she thought the vocal group at Tuesday's meeting didn't speak for all Montana ranchers.

At one point, as the board tried to work out a resolution to capture the nuances of the group's stance on issue, one audience member yelled that the board wanted to be on "both sides of the fence."

At other times, the audience booed when board members discussed pursuing the status.

For now, said Christian Mackay, executive director of the department, the state is pursuing voluntary efforts by ranchers around the park to prevent the disease from getting into cattle. There are no mandatory efforts like testing or vaccinating for the disease.
 
Gov. Brian Schweitzer said the decision represented "misinformation" spread by the lobbyist of the Montana Stockgrowers Association. The group's lobbyist ought to be personally blamed when or if another case brucellosis comes up and all of Montana is saddled with the stiffer restrictions that brucellosis brings, the governor said.


The feds/state should just step in and either get the disease out of the wild population or contain it by paying for vaccination of all domestic livestock in the areas.

Obviously, resources would be better spent on vaccinating livestock in an area around the Yellowstone area where there is a real problem.

Is the livestock association taking steps to promote this idea or are they headed down the same path we see Canadian producers were lead down with bse?
 
Tex said:
Gov. Brian Schweitzer said the decision represented "misinformation" spread by the lobbyist of the Montana Stockgrowers Association. The group's lobbyist ought to be personally blamed when or if another case brucellosis comes up and all of Montana is saddled with the stiffer restrictions that brucellosis brings, the governor said.


The feds/state should just step in and either get the disease out of the wild population or contain it by paying for vaccination of all domestic livestock in the areas.

Obviously, resources would be better spent on vaccinating livestock in an area around the Yellowstone area where there is a real problem.

Is the livestock association taking steps to promote this idea or are they headed down the same path we see Canadian producers were lead down with bse?


Only problem is from what I understand-- vaccination is only about 90% reliable...We've vaccinated from longer than I can remember- and most everyone around here does... In fact pregging and bangs vaccinating heifers is the biggest thing after shipping happening in the area now....

But our current ADMINISTRATIONS USDA -- in their wisdom-- has proposed that the Federal Brucellocis vaccination program and testing be discontinued..... :shock: :roll: :( :mad: :mad:

Their tradeoff to putting their budgeted money toward beef/cattle imports rather than US beef/cattle safety...... :mad: :mad: :mad:
 
Here is an idea, and just an idea, Oldtimer.....

Why don't we open the Yellowstone area up to hunters who use bangs vaccination darts instead of real bullets to help clean up the bangs in the wildlife population? Put a paint ball on the end of it so we knew which animals were vaccinated so we don't double vaccinate.

I don't know if we have good bangs vaccinations for wildlife, but couldn't we develop one if we don't have one?

Just a thought.......

Heck, it would make a great hunting tournament that could pay for itself!!



Just trying to think outside of the box.
 
Tex said:
Here is an idea, and just an idea, Oldtimer.....

Why don't we open the Yellowstone area up to hunters who use bangs vaccination darts instead of real bullets to help clean up the bangs in the wildlife population? Put a paint ball on the end of it so we knew which animals were vaccinated so we don't double vaccinate.

I don't know if we have good bangs vaccinations for wildlife, but couldn't we develop one if we don't have one?

Just a thought.......

Heck, it would make a great hunting tournament that could pay for itself!!



Just trying to think outside of the box.

Be nice if OUR USDA put such things as a priority over importing in diseased or questionable beef and cattle imports-- but that hasn't happened....USDA (this Administration) has totally forgot who signs their paychecks and who they are supposed to be working for..... :( :( :mad: :mad: :mad:
 

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