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BSE CASE CONFIRMED IN ALBERTA OTTAWA, August 15, 2008

"There's a little concern long-term that some Pacific Rim countries may associate Canada with us," said Lane Broadbent, a vice-president of KIS Futures Inc. in Oklahoma City.


:lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

You wish you were so lucky!!!!

We share that concern with the Pacific Rim countries!!! See Below from a former post I made a couple of weeks ago.

"At lunch today, we had the privilege of hosting 3 international students from the college that our kids attend. They are young Koreans who are here to study and learn to speak English well since it seems to be the "universal' language of business.

You will seldom see such well mannered young people from our own culture - they literally jumped to their feet with heads slightly bowed when I walked into the room and after introductions, would not sit down until I "gave them permission" to sit after I had taken my own seat.

My daughter has volunteered to tutor a number of Asian students in English and when they learned that she is a farm girl, they wished to see what a Canadian farm looks like. At 150 acres, my farm is very small scale, but representative of the larger scale eastern Canadian farms around us which run from 500 to 5000+ acres.

When they learned that we farm 150 acres, they were completely blown away by the "immense" size of it, slapping their foreheads in disbelief. I made it clear that 150 acres is tiny in Ontario. "Well", they said,"you would be the richest man in Korea!"

The part that got interesting was when the discussion turned to our beef production and the export market. They quickly and enthusiastically came around to the recent Korean protests against U.S. beef being sold in their homeland.

"We don't trust the Americans" was one of their emphatic statements. "They are not honest. They say they do not have B.S.E. but we know they do. They are just quiet about it." (Many hush hush hand motions here) "When Canada finds one, you are open, you do not cover it up. You tell everyone even if it is not good for you. The Americans are not honest . . . ." . . . and on they went, momentarily shedding their usual reserve. Methinks the U.S. has much more than just a little P.R. work to do.

I found it hard to argue against what they were saying. And I will find out if they are willing to put their faith in our system to the test when, for supper, I offer them prime rib from the steer we just got butchered.

Just thought this encounter might be of interest to y'all."




By the way, they ate the steaks and said "We have never had steak like that before".
 
RobertMac said:
If feed is the transmission agent, why weren't there out breaks of BSE the same level as in the UK everywhere the UK shipped MBM?
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because countries like the USA cover up cases of BSE, by not detecting them, through a very flawwed surveillance system, one with a failed feed ban. again, look at the countries that have abided by the feed ban, and the dramatic decline thereafter of BSE.

one cannot find and document something, if one is not looking, and when one is only looking not to find. ...TSS


Wednesday, August 20, 2008

Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy Mad Cow Disease typical and atypical strains, was there a cover-up ?

August 20, 2008




http://bse-atypical.blogspot.com/2008/08/bovine-spongiform-encephalopathy-mad.html



Terry S. Singeltary Sr. P.O. Box 42 Bacliff, Texas USA 77518
 
flounder said:
because countries like the USA cover up cases of BSE, by not detecting them, through a very flawwed surveillance system, one with a failed feed ban. again, look at the countries that have abided by the feed ban, and the dramatic decline thereafter of BSE.

one cannot find and document something, if one is not looking, and when one is only looking not to find. ...TSS


Wednesday, August 20, 2008

Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy Mad Cow Disease typical and atypical strains, was there a cover-up ?

August 20, 2008




http://bse-atypical.blogspot.com/2008/08/bovine-spongiform-encephalopathy-mad.html



Terry S. Singeltary Sr. P.O. Box 42 Bacliff, Texas USA 77518
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Didn't the UK ship MBM to countries that are doing 100% testing? Japan? France? Italy?

RobertMac said:
If feed is the transmission agent, why weren't there out breaks of BSE the same level as in the UK everywhere the UK shipped MBM?
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Mexico blocks Alberta cattle

Ottawa says move lacks scientific merit



Gina Teel, Calgary Herald - Canada

Published: Thursday, August 21, 2008



Mexico has banned imports of live cattle from Alberta, following the discovery of Canada's 14th case of mad cow disease in the province last week.



Mexico is banning imports of beef and dairy breeding cattle -- but not stopping the flow of beef into the country -- in a move Federal Agriculture Minister Gerry Ritz said has no legitimacy from a scientific perspective.



Canada and Mexico are both considered as controlled-risk status for BSE, or bovine spongiform encephalopathy, as recognized by the World Organization for Animal Health, or OIE.



"They're (Mexico is) very concerned that if they're bringing in an older breeding animal, that they may be importing BSE; that's the genesis of this," Ritz said in a telephone interview Wednesday.



Rob McNabb, general manager of operations at the Canadian Cattlemen's Association, said Mexico has given written notice of the ban to the Canadian Food Inspection Agency.



Mexican authorities are describing the move as a temporary prohibition of live cattle from Alberta, he said, while they undertake their own risk assessment "and assure themselves that what Canada's doing to ensure safety is sound."



No further details about a timeline were available.



The impact of the ban in Alberta is not thought to be large. An estimated 200 to 300 breeder cattle have been exported to Mexico from Alberta since March 2008, when the border reopened to live cattle, allowing for the transit of Canadian cattle exported to Mexico through the United States.



McNabb said the cattlemen's association is clearly disappointed -- particularly in a NAFTA partner taking this kind of action.



"We don't understand what their basis is," he said. "We're both controlled risk as identified by OIE, so there should be virtually no restrictions on anything."



The CFIA has said this latest case of BSE should not affect exports of Canadian cattle or beef.



McNabb said for this to happen so soon after re-establishing an important market for beef and dairy breeding cattle is a blow.



"This is just going to be another disruption to our recovery process," McNabb said.



Gerald Ollis, Alberta's chief veterinarian, said the fact Mexico wants to stop live animal trade goes against the recommendations out of the OIE.



The concern is that other countries follow Mexico's move, he said.



Canada has a feed ban in place, continues with its surveillance and is trying to detect as many positive cows in the Alberta herd as possible, he said.



"What I find strange is, why pick on Alberta?" Ollis said, noting BSE has also been found in the U.S., Manitoba and British Columbia, while the initial case in May 2003 was in an animal born in Saskatchewan.



Herb McLane, executive vice-president of the Canadian Beef Breeds Council, said there are no known Alberta cattle in the pipeline at this time.



However, four loads of beef breeding cattle from Alberta valued at about $500,000 entered Mexico last week.



McLane said while the development is frustrating, the association is taking it in stride.



"We've been living with this now since May of 2003, so . . . it seems like just about the time we start to gather some momentum under us, re-establish market access and re-establishing trade routes, that we have an impediment," he said.



McLane said industry officials plan to work with the Canadian government to help resolve the impasse as quickly a possible "and we'll stand on the science."



Ritz said Canadian officials will meet with their Mexican counterparts to again discuss Canada's strict BSE testing regime and other measures in place, to prove that the country is safe.



"I'm not exactly sure if it's political posturing or if there's some pressure coming to bear on Mexican authorities, but I know they've had some real push back by certain groups down there on NAFTA as a whole," Ritz said.



The minister added he's quite prepared to speak to Mexican agriculture minister Alberto Cardenas directly, but is trying to work through the details and should have more information in a day or two.



If Alberta isn't able to export cattle into Mexico, there's a global demand for Canadian genetics in both beef and dairy, Ritz said.



"Our problem is going to be having enough animals to fill the demand. So if Mexico has decided they want to cut out some, it's their loss, not ours," the minister said.



Last Friday, the CFIA confirmed Canada's 14th case of BSE, this time in a six-year-old beef cow from Alberta.



The first, discovered in May 2003, resulted in dozens of countries banning Canadian beef and animals, costing the industry an estimated $7 billion. Much of that trade has since resumed, in full or partial form.



Source: The Calgary Herald



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""We don't understand what their basis is," he said. "We're both controlled risk as identified by OIE, so there should be virtually no restrictions on anything."

Ummmmm..... maybe because all facts point to you exporting BSE? :shock:
 
If feed is the transmission agent, why, when one animal in a herd has BSE and the rest of the herd is slaughtered and tested, none of the others have BSE?

Other than the UK, name me one case where there were multiple BSE cases in the same herd eating the same feed!!!

Face it Terry, the MBM BSE transmission theory just doesn't hold up in the real world!

Why was England different????????
 
gcreekrch - you stated that prices would not be going up if concern for BSE was high. True. However, as for the rules and regulations being pushed upon the Canadian, and specifically, the Alberta cattle ranchers... it all boils down to who is concerned. In our case, the CFIA is hyper-concerned about all potential major animal disease outbreaks, including avian flu, FMD and BSE.

It is the federal government agencies and even some of our own Alberta officials who have decided to take measures into their own hands (no matter what the complacent public thinks, or what the industry thinks).

We will be forced to comply.

Flounder`s comments to me, are evidence of the fear of the unknown. The BSE story about MBM helped to put a multifactoral disease into a nice, easy to understand handbook - but they were wrong. Not completely wrong though..... feeding the bone meal with the sequestered toxic metals is not so good (especially when combined in the treatment process with the organophosphate chemicals that had bio-accumulated in the fat). The chemical released the metals from the apatite matrix that protected the animal from its toxic effect.

People were exposed to the organophosphates through fat (in meats and milk).

The European countries and some of the Asian countries experienced higher incidents of BSE because they treated their cattle and pigs with OPs (just as in Mark Purdey`s articles).... Many countries that didn`t worry about warble flies (or parasites) didn`t have this one piece of the puzzle - so were spared.

Treatment of cattle in Canada for warbles and other parasites is exposing them to one of the multifactoral mechanisms that predispose proteins and DNA to damage. How can a chemical be killing the bugs inside the cow, and not harming the cow

Steady exposure to toxic chemicals (especially those in the rural communities exposed to crop chemicals) reduces the bodies ability to combat against the toxic changes. Vitamin B12 is a biggy in this field. And many people are very deficient.

Beef liver is a good source of vitamin B12; but if the animal is exposed to radioactive cobalt (or others like radioactive Carbon 14), which can accumulate in the liver - what are the long term consequences to this exposure.

Cobalt 60 has a relatively short half-life; but others, like Carbon 14 have a half live of 5720 years. If this toxic element concentrates in the liver, the B12 will be effected - and the detoxification mechanisms it is associated with, will also be affected.

I`ll get more on this soon, there is some interesting stuff going on in this area.
 
Kathy said:
gcreekrch - you stated that prices would not be going up if concern for BSE was high. True. However, as for the rules and regulations being pushed upon the Canadian, and specifically, the Alberta cattle ranchers... it all boils down to who is concerned. In our case, the CFIA is hyper-concerned about all potential major animal disease outbreaks, including avian flu, FMD and BSE.

It is the federal government agencies and even some of our own Alberta officials who have decided to take measures into their own hands (no matter what the complacent public thinks, or what the industry thinks).

We will be forced to comply.

Flounder`s comments to me, are evidence of the fear of the unknown. The BSE story about MBM helped to put a multifactoral disease into a nice, easy to understand handbook - but they were wrong. Not completely wrong though..... feeding the bone meal with the sequestered toxic metals is not so good (especially when combined in the treatment process with the organophosphate chemicals that had bio-accumulated in the fat). The chemical released the metals from the apatite matrix that protected the animal from its toxic effect.

People were exposed to the organophosphates through fat (in meats and milk).

The European countries and some of the Asian countries experienced higher incidents of BSE because they treated their cattle and pigs with OPs (just as in Mark Purdey`s articles).... Many countries that didn`t worry about warble flies (or parasites) didn`t have this one piece of the puzzle - so were spared.

Treatment of cattle in Canada for warbles and other parasites is exposing them to one of the multifactoral mechanisms that predispose proteins and DNA to damage. How can a chemical be killing the bugs inside the cow, and not harming the cow

Steady exposure to toxic chemicals (especially those in the rural communities exposed to crop chemicals) reduces the bodies ability to combat against the toxic changes. Vitamin B12 is a biggy in this field. And many people are very deficient.

Beef liver is a good source of vitamin B12; but if the animal is exposed to radioactive cobalt (or others like radioactive Carbon 14), which can accumulate in the liver - what are the long term consequences to this exposure.

Cobalt 60 has a relatively short half-life; but others, like Carbon 14 have a half live of 5720 years. If this toxic element concentrates in the liver, the B12 will be effected - and the detoxification mechanisms it is associated with, will also be affected.

I`ll get more on this soon, there is some interesting stuff going on in this area.
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Kathy, I, for one, appreciate your contributions.
 

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