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Which end should the gate that swings to close and make the box at the alley hinge? Alley side or the other? Thanks
 
Our box runs east/west. The chute comes out of the SW corner of our box (headed South). The sheeted entry gate hinges on the NW corner of the box.
It works well. If you hinge it that way you can put a rope on it so you can pull it shut in a hurry with cattle that may not be so quiet.
 
flyingS said:
Your gate should always hinge opposite of your alley. The idea is that having the latch alley side allows you to close the gate and pressure cattle to walk buy you with the alley being their release.
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I don't think mine will work like that. Can't you latch it walk over open alley gate and then walk towards the cattle and make them go by you and into the alley? I don't really understand why it makes a big difference which end the gate hinges on.
 
4Diamond said:
flyingS said:
Your gate should always hinge opposite of your alley. The idea is that having the latch alley side allows you to close the gate and pressure cattle to walk buy you with the alley being their release.
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I don't think mine will work like that. Can't you latch it walk over open alley gate and then walk towards the cattle and make them go by you and into the alley? I don't really understand why it makes a big difference which end the gate hinges on.
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Mine hinges off the alley side and works pretty well. Our whole box is made of rod and panels so the cattle can see thru it and it works really well we do need to sheet the gate and the off corner and it will work better I think but it works twice as fast as our old sysytem which was'nt much. I dont want the whole thing sheeted if a cow gets on the fight I want somewhere to step out of up and over fully sheeted does'nt work for older slower people in my opinion.
 
It simply doesn't work as well.

Ours had the gate hinge on the alley side. As the cattle enter the Bud Box, hit the back end and make the U-turn, they always first head to the corner where they entered, hesitate, and then turn and start to think about exiting via the alley.

This hesitation always causes problems, in particular if the cattle are very tame and have little to no flight zone.

With that said, I have used set=ups designed by Temple Grandin and think the cattle flow is waaaay smoother than a Bud-Box, albeit there is more construction involved.

HTH

bart.
 
bverellen said:
It simply doesn't work as well.

Ours had the gate hinge on the alley side. As the cattle enter the Bud Box, hit the back end and make the U-turn, they always first head to the corner where they entered, hesitate, and then turn and start to think about exiting via the alley.

This hesitation always causes problems, in particular if the cattle are very tame and have little to no flight zone.

With that said, I have used set=ups designed by Temple Grandin and think the cattle flow is waaaay smoother than a Bud-Box, albeit there is more construction involved.

HTH

bart.
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enter at a corner? I have a12' wide gate so it will be open, that's why the hinged end thing confuses me.
 
Our gate for entry to the Bud Box hinged in one corner and latched in the opposing corner. The hinge was near the entry to the working ally.

In retrospect, it would have functioned better if the latch for the entry gate was near the working alley and the hinge was further away.

Clear as mud now? :???:

Try this: http://www.agweb.com/article/The_%E2%80%9CBud_box_195378/

Good luck.
 
It is partially a matter of efficiency. You have to decide if you want it to be better than what you used to have or as good as it can. If the gate latches on the alley side, as soon as you latch it you will pressure cattle to walk buy you. If you latch opposite you automatically are pressuring flow the opposite direction you want it to be. Yes you can just step across to your alley and change the flow, but you are adding extra steps for you and the cattle. You can make anything work. I have a friend who has a modified version of a bud box that feeds into a Bowman tub and alley. I can keep cows to the chute by myself without ever shouting a gate or getting of my horse and never have a vet wait on me. I am not a fan of tubs, that is by far the best tub design I have ever worked in.
 
bverellen said:
Our gate for entry to the Bud Box hinged in one corner and latched in the opposing corner. The hinge was near the entry to the working ally.

In retrospect, it would have functioned better if the latch for the entry gate was near the working alley and the hinge was further away.

Clear as mud now? :???:

Try this: http://www.agweb.com/article/The_%E2%80%9CBud_box_195378/

Good luck.
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gotcha. That's how I would like mine but not sure I can make it happen. My staging pen for the box is a hair small and hanging the gate that way may effect my ability to get them in that pen.
 
And just now it dawned on me I can extend that pen to the east and fix that problem... Thanks guys for making my brain work...
 

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