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Bull Containment

EFJ

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Hello All,

I am wondering if any of you-- preferrably those who live in Canada (Alberta)-- know what the appropriate method of containing a bull on farmland is. For those of you who are residents in Alberta, do you know of any regulations that mandate this method?

Please let me know. It is somewhat urgent.

Cheers,
 
Please allow me to clarify as best I can: recently, a bull escaped and was hit by a vehicle where the driver and passenger were injured. There may be a claim that the farmer was negligent so the aim of my inquiry is to determine what the standard practice is amongst ranchers/farmers in Alberta with respect to bulls but more specifically containing those bulls so that they do no escape and wonder onto the highway.

I hope that helps.

Thanks for your reply and any future responses would be greatly appreciated.
 
As long as you have a history of maintaining your fences and they were in good shape when the bull escaped you have done your due diligence and should not be liable. I have asked this question of my insurance people and that was the answer. Having said that I hope this person has a good policy because it might need to be proven in court. If there is a history of cows on the road and poorly maintained fence then I am afraid it could be costly. Keeping bulls in at this time of year is certainly a challenge. Good luck.
 
as an insurance agent and an owner of a small herd of cattle, i can tell you this, In louisiana (all states laws are different) regardless of if youve kept your fences in good shape, you are still liable for your animals. We sell a product called a general farm liability policy for just this reason. Again this is in Louisiana and I have no idea how Canada's insurance laws read.

i would suggest looking into some type of policy like this if you are worried. they arent that expensive for 1 million in coverage.
 
Out here we still have open range laws. If you hit a cow, it is your fault and you or your insurance pays for the cow. That being said 99% of ranchers keep highways fenced when possible to protect people and cattle. Inside town or city limits those laws dont apply.
 
many years ago an aquaintence of mine was in such an accident.but the farmer had left some mud on the pavement from the harvest and the
pick-up went into a skid.
they went to court over it with the insurance and after claiming that his wife was with him and she was pregant and might suffer complications,they settled it out in the halls of the court room.

i guess i'm just saying that there might be other conditions,, than just the bull or fence.
 
Having never been to Canada.
Let me explain that on our breeding ranch we contain our bulls in a 6plus foot pipe enclosure. We keep all the bulls penned until sold or turned out to their designated herd. This is the time of year they will wander and get into trouble! One big issue I try to explain to bull buyers is a bull can cover as many females as his age. 12 - 12 month old. That is per The American Angus Assoc. guidelines. Different breeds go by different guidelines! So having enough females to keep him busy is a big key to keep him from fence climbing.
Good Luck with your bull!
 
So your sayin a yearling bull can only cover one cow??? a two year old...two cows?

If so....I sure am glad our bulls aren't that way.

As for the law in Canada...I have no idea...since I'm in Texas.
 
the_jersey_lilly_2000 said:
So your sayin a yearling bull can only cover one cow??? a two year old...two cows?
If so....I sure am glad our bulls aren't that way.

As for the law in Canada...I have no idea...since I'm in Texas.

i think what he means is that a 12 month old bull should cover 12 cows. personally, i think that is a pretty conservative number. but that is probably a topic for a different thread. :)
 
the_jersey_lilly_2000 said:
LOL my mind just wasn't wrappin around those numbers right I guess haha. Still tho....12 for a yearling....that's kinda low....might keep him busy for a few days. But not for very long.

Yea JL, that didn't make a lot of sense to me either. My bull had a herd of 32 cows to himself and still jumped the fence to the neighbors brahman heifers. I guess it's still a good general rule of thumb though. Moral of the rule: give them something to stay busy with!
 
SHERIFF JOE IS AT IT AGAIN!
You all remember Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Arizona , who painted the jail cells pink and made
the inmates wear pink prison garb. Well.........

SHERIFF JOE IS AT IT AGAIN!

Oh, there's MUCH more to know about Sheriff Joe!

Maricopa County was spending approx. $18 million dollars a year on stray animals, like
cats and dogs. Sheriff Joe offered to take the department over, and the County Supervisors
said okay.

The animal shelters are now all staffed and operated by prisoners. They feed and care for the
strays. Every animal in his care is taken out and walked twice daily. He now has prisoners
who are experts in animal nutrition and behavior. They give great classes for anyone who'd
like to adopt an animal. He has literally taken stray dog s off the street, given them to the
care of prisoners, and had them place in dog shows.

The best part? His budget for the entire department is now under $3 million. I adopted a Weimaraner from a Maricopa County shelter two years ago. He was neutered and current
on all shots, in great health, and even had a microchip inserted the day we got him.
Cost us $78.

The prisoners get the benefit of about $0.28 an hour for working, but most would work for
free, just to be out of their cells for the day. Most of his budget is for utilities, building
maintenance, etc. He pays the prisoners out of the fees collected for adopted animals.

I have long wondered when the rest of the country would take a look at the way he runs the
jail system and copy some of his ideas. He has a huge farm, donated to the county years ago,
where inmates can work, and they grow most of their own fresh vegetables and food, doing
all the work and harvesting by hand.

He has a pretty good sized hog farm, which provides meat and fertilizer. It fertilizes the
Christmas tree nursery, where prisoners work, and you can buy a living Christmas tree for
$6 - $8 for the holidays and plant it later. We have six trees in our yard from the prison.

Yup, he was re-elected last year with 83% of the vote.
Now he's in trouble with the ACLU again. He painted all his buses and vehicles with a mural
that has a special hotline phone number painted on it, where you can call and report suspected
illegal aliens. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement wasn't doing enough in his eyes, so he
had 40 deputies trained specifically for enforcing immigration laws, started up his hotline,
and bought 4 new buses just for hauling folks back to the border. He's kind of a 'Git-R Dun'
kind of Sheriff.

TO THOSE OF YOU NOT FAMILIAR WITH JOE ARPAIO..

HE IS THE MARICOPA ARIZONA COUNTY SHERIFF

AND HE KEEPS GETTING ELECTED OVER AND OVER..

THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY:

Sheriff Joe Arpaio (in Arizona ) who created the 'Tent City Jail':
**He has jail meals down to 40 cents a serving and charges the inmates for them.
**He stopped smoking and porno magazines in the jails.
**Took away their weights.
**Cut off all but 'G' movies.
**He started chain gangs so the inmates could do free work on county and city projects.
**Then he started chain gangs for women so he wouldn't get sued for discrimination.

**He took away cable TV until he found out there was a federal court order that required
cable TV for jails, so he hooked up the cable TV again.....BUT only let in the Disney channel
and the Weather channel.

**When asked why the weather channel, he replied, "So they will know how hot it's
gonna be while they are working on my chain gangs."

**He cut off coffee since it has zero nutritional value.

**When the inmates complained, he told them, "This isn't The Ritz/Carlton......
If you don't like it, don't come back."

More On The Arizona Sheriff:

With temperatures being even hotter than usual in Phoenix (116 degrees just set
a new record), the Associated Press reports:
About 2,000 inmates living in a barbed-wire-surrounded tent encampment at the
Maricopa County jail have been given permission to strip down to their government-issued pink boxer shorts.

On Wednesday, hundreds of men wearing boxers were either curled up on their bunk beds or chatted in the tents, which reached 138 degrees inside the week before.

Many were also swathed in wet, pink towels as sweat collected on their chests and dripped down to their PINK SOCKS.

"It feels like we are in a furnace," said James Zanzot, an inmate who has lived in the TENTS for 1 year. "It's inhumane."

Joe Arpaio, the tough-guy sheriff who created the tent city and long ago started
making his prisoners wear pink and eat bologna sandwiches, is not one bit
sympathetic.
He said Wednesday that he told all of the inmates, "It's 120 degrees in Iraq and our soldiers are living in tents too, and they have to wear full battle gear, but they didn't commit any crimes, so shut your mouths!"

Way to go, Sheriff!

Maybe if all prisons were like this one there would be a lot less crime and/or repeat offenders. Criminals should be punished for their crimes - not live in luxury until it's
time for their parole, only to go out and commit another crime so they can get back
in to live on taxpayers' money and enjoy things taxpayers can't afford to have for themselves.

If you agree, pass this on.
If not, just delete it
 

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