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LOL, I can just picture you OT, hunched over your computer til the wee hours of the morning scanning Canadian news sites looking, hoping, and praying you can find something juicy and be the first to run to the forums and broadcast! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Why wouldn't your first response to this story be: Wow, those Canucks are really on top of things. Looks like that traceback system they got up there is really paying dividends, perhaps we should raise our game to their level. Gosh, what would happen to us given the same situation? How come they can find these things and we never do?
But, I guess it's more fun to sit hunched over that computer and hope to be the first to report that the sky is falling, huh?
Why wouldn't your first response to this story be: Wow, those Canucks are really on top of things. Looks like that traceback system they got up there is really paying dividends, perhaps we should raise our game to their level. Gosh, what would happen to us given the same situation? How come they can find these things and we never do?
But, I guess it's more fun to sit hunched over that computer and hope to be the first to report that the sky is falling, huh?
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Silver old boy-- you are getting paranoid...You give me too much credit-as instead of spending hours hunched over the computer- I get cattle news updates e-mailed to me several times a day as the news breaks- and they even include Canuck news...
But I did look up the one below after hearing it today on the radio-- How much your helping out our Montana economy down here and how you poor BC folks will have to be declaring bankruptcy soon with the value loss of B.C.'s number one crop... :wink: :lol:
But I did look up the one below after hearing it today on the radio-- How much your helping out our Montana economy down here and how you poor BC folks will have to be declaring bankruptcy soon with the value loss of B.C.'s number one crop... :wink: :lol:
Silver said:
THAT WILL NEVER EVER HAPPEN! even though it's the sad truth. i feel for you Canadians, i know the truth, and cannot do anything about it.
all one has to do is take a good look at everything this administration has done. it's as corrupt as i have ever seen. no need to waste space pointing all of it out, OT, and everyone else on both sides of the border, and all across the EU know it. what i can't figure out is how they keep getting away with it, time and time again$ if you dont do proper surveillance, and testing, if you don't document, if you use the SSS policy, which we all know is alive and well, if you dont have trace back, if you pass a farm bill that has the old 'secrecy clause' still in it, to protect the industry from being responsible, if you have all this, you have the same old BSe, and BASE in the USA, and it does not get documented, thus the OIE gives you their blessings, bought and paid for by your local cattle dealer, i.e. USDA. one big circle xxxx TSS
(Adopted by the International Committee of the OIE on 23 May 2006)
11. Information published by the OIE is derived from appropriate
declarations made by the official Veterinary Services of Member Countries.
The OIE is not
responsible for inaccurate publication of country disease status based on
inaccurate information or
changes in epidemiological status or other significant events that were not
promptly
reported to then Central Bureau............
http://www.oie.int/eng/Session2007/RF2006.pdf
http://usdameatexport.blogspot.com/
BSE BASE MAD COW TESTING TEXAS, USA, AND CANADA, A REVIEW OF SORTS
http://madcowtesting.blogspot.com/
MADCOW USDA the untold story
http://madcowusda.blogspot.com/
MADCOW USDA the untold story continued
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6472149427883113751&postID=4829467681293855400
USA NOR-98 SCRAPIE UPDATE AUGUST 31, 2007 RISES TO 5 DOCUMENTED CASES
http://nor-98.blogspot.com/
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flounder -- my cattle are PERMANENTLY IDed with a hot iron brand (which doesn't fall out or can be changed with a whim)-- and accompanied/recorded on every cross county move or change of ownership by a State issued certificate...They also are all individually IDed and traceable back for generations (over 40 years history) thru individual eartags- and permanent records... Montana has had a "workable" traceback system for over 100 years.....
Oldtimer said:
well OT, that sounds great, but what about everybody else, and the other states? what about those two h-BASE atypical BSE mad cows from Texas and Alabama, which by the way, are more virulent to humans, primates, and rodents, than the typical UK BSE mad cow strain??? how were those trace backs of birth and herd cohorts, how did they go ???
TEXAS MAD COW
THEY DID FINALLY TEST AFTER SITTING 7+ MONTHS ON A SHELF WHILE GW BORE THE
BSE MRR POLICY, i.e. legal trading of all strains of TSE. now understand, i
confirmed this case 7 months earlier to the TAHC, and then, only after i
contacted the Honorable Phyllis Fong and after an act of Congress, this
animal was finally confirmed ;
During the course of the investigation, USDA removed and tested a total of
67 animals of interest from the farm where the index animal's herd
originated. All of these animals tested negative for BSE. 200 adult animals
of interest were determined to have left the index farm. Of these 200, APHIS
officials determined that 143 had gone to slaughter, two were found alive
(one was determined not to be of interest because of its age and the other
tested negative), 34 are presumed dead, one is known dead and 20 have been
classified as untraceable. In addition to the adult animals, APHIS was
looking for two calves born to the index animal. Due to record keeping and
identification issues, APHIS had to trace 213 calves. Of these 213 calves,
208 entered feeding and slaughter channels, four are presumed to have
entered feeding and slaughter channels and one calf was untraceable.
http://www.usda.gov/wps/portal/!ut/p/_s.7_0_A/7_0_1OB?contentidonly=true&contentid=2005/08/0336.xml
Executive Summary
In June 2005, an inconclusive bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE) sample
from
November 2004, that had originally been classified as negative on the
immunohistochemistry test, was confirmed positive on SAF immunoblot (Western
blot).
The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) identified the herd of origin for
the index cow
in Texas; that identification was confirmed by DNA analysis. USDA, in close
cooperation
with the Texas Animal Health Commission (TAHC), established an incident
command post
(ICP) and began response activities according to USDA's BSE Response Plan of
September 2004. Response personnel removed at-risk cattle and cattle of
interest (COI)
from the index herd, euthanized them, and tested them for BSE; all were
negative. USDA
and the State extensively traced all at-risk cattle and COI that left the
index herd. The
majority of these animals entered rendering and/or slaughter channels well
before the
investigation began. USDA's response to the Texas finding was thorough and
effective.
snip...
Trace Herd 3
The owner of Trace Herd 3 was identified as possibly having received an
animal of
interest. The herd was placed under hold order on 7/27/05. The herd
inventory was
conducted on 7/28/05. The animal of interest was not present within the
herd, and the hold
order was released on 7/28/05. The person who thought he sold the animal to
the owner of
Trace Herd 3 had no records and could not remember who else he might have
sold the cow
to. Additionally, a search of GDB for all cattle sold through the markets by
that individual
did not result in a match to the animal of interest. The animal of interest
traced to this herd
was classified as untraceable because all leads were exhausted.
Trace Herd 4
The owner of Trace Herd 4 was identified as having received one of the COI
through an
order buyer. Trace Herd 4 was placed under hold order on 7/29/05. A complete
herd
inventory was conducted on 8/22/05 and 8/23/05. There were 233 head of
cattle that were
examined individually by both State and Federal personnel for all man-made
identification
and brands. The animal of interest was not present within the herd. Several
animals were
reported to have died in the herd sometime after they arrived on the
premises in April 2005.
A final search of GDB records yielded no further results on the eartag of
interest at either
subsequent market sale or slaughter. With all leads having been exhausted,
this animal of
interest has been classified as untraceable. The hold order on Trace Herd 4
was released on
8/23/05.
Trace Herd 5
The owner of Trace Herd 5 was identified as having received two COI and was
placed
under hold order on 8/1/05. Trace Herd 5 is made up of 67 head of cattle in
multiple
pastures. During the course of the herd inventory, the owner located records
that indicated
that one of the COI, a known birth cohort, had been sold to Trace Herd 8
where she was
subsequently found alive. Upon completion of the herd inventory, the other
animal of
interest was not found within the herd. A GDB search of all recorded herd
tests conducted
on Trace Herd 5 and all market sales by the owner failed to locate the
identification tag of
the animal of interest and she was subsequently classified as untraceable
due to all leads
having been exhausted. The hold order on Trace Herd 5 was released on
8/8/05.
Trace Herd 6
The owner of Trace Herd 6 was identified as possibly having received an
animal of interest
and was placed under hold order on 8/1/05. This herd is made up of 58 head
of cattle on
two pastures. A herd inventory was conducted and the animal of interest was
not present
within the herd. The owner of Trace Herd 6 had very limited records and was
unable to
provide further information on where the cow might have gone after he
purchased her from
the livestock market. A search of GDB for all cattle sold through the
markets by that
individual did not result in a match to the animal of interest.
Additionally, many of the
animals presented for sale by the owner of the herd had been re-tagged at
the market
effectually losing the traceability of the history of that animal prior to
re-tagging. The
animal of interest traced to this herd was classified as untraceable due to
all leads having
been exhausted. The hold order on Trace Herd 6 was released on 8/3/05.
Trace Herd 7
The owner of Trace Herd 7 was identified as having received an animal of
interest and was
placed under hold order on 8/1/05. Trace Herd 7 contains 487 head of cattle
on multiple
pastures in multiple parts of the State, including a unit kept on an island.
The island
location is a particularly rough place to keep cattle and the owner claimed
to have lost 22
head on the island in 2004 due to liver flukes. Upon completion of the herd
inventory, the
animal of interest was not found present within Trace Herd 7. A GDB search
of all
recorded herd tests conducted on Trace Herd 7 and all market sales by the
owner failed to
locate the identification tag of the animal of interest. The cow was
subsequently classified
as untraceable. It is quite possible though that she may have died within
the herd,
especially if she belonged to the island unit. The hold order on Trace Herd
7 was released
on 8/8/05.
http://www.aphis.usda.gov/lpa/issues/bse/epi-updates/bse_final_epidemiology_report.pdf
TERRY CONFIRMS TEXAS MAD COW 7 MONTHS EARLIER
-------- Original Message --------
Director,
Public Information Carla Everett [email protected]
Subject: Re: BSE 'INCONCLUSIVE' COW from
TEXAS ???
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 17:12:15 -0600
From: "Terry S. Singeltary Sr."
To: Carla Everett
References: <[log in to unmask]>
<[log in to unmask] us>
Greetings Carla,still hear a rumor;
Texas single beef cow not born in Canada no beef entered the food chain?
and i see the TEXAS department of animal health is ramping up forsomething,
but they forgot a url for update?I HAVE NO ACTUAL CONFIRMATION YET...can you
confirm???terry
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: BSE 'INCONCLUSIVE' COW from
TEXAS ???
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 11:38:21 -0600
From: Carla Everett
To: "Terry S. Singeltary Sr."
References: <[log in to unmask]>
The USDA has made a statement, and we are referring all callers to the USDA
web site. We have no informationabout the animal being in Texas. CarlaAt
09:44 AM 11/19/2004, you wrote:>Greetings Carla,>>i am getting
unsubstantiated claims of this BSE 'inconclusive' cow is from>TEXAS. can you
comment on this either way please?>>thank you,>Terry S. Singeltary Sr.>>
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: BSE 'INCONCLUSIVE' COW from
TEXAS ???
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 18:33:20 -0600
From: Carla Everett
To: "Terry S. Singeltary Sr."
References: <[log in to unmask]>
<[log in to unmask] us>
<[log in to unmask]> <[log in to unmask]
us> <[log in to unmask]>
our computer department was working on a place holder we could postUSDA's
announcement of any results. There are no results to be announced tonightby
NVSL, so we are back in a waiting mode and will post the USDA
announcementwhen we hear something.At 06:05 PM 11/22/2004, you wrote:>why
was the announcement on your TAHC site removed?>>Bovine Spongiform
Encephalopathy:>November 22: Press Release title here >>star image More BSE
information>>>>terry>>Carla Everett wrote:>>>no confirmation on the U.S.'
inconclusive test...>>no confirmation on location of
animal.>>>>>>==========================
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THEN, 7+ MONTHS OF COVER-UP BY JOHANN ET AL! no doubt about it now $$$
NO, it's not pretty, hell, im not pretty, but these are the facts, take em
or leave em, however, you cannot change them.
with kindest regards,
I am still sincerely disgusted and tired in sunny Bacliff, Texas USA 77518
Terry S. Singeltary Sr.
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http://lists.ifas.ufl.edu/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind0701&L=sanet-mg&P=16195
THE OTHER TEXAS MAD COW THEY DID SUCCEED IN COVERING UP ;
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Statement
May 4, 2004
Media Inquiries: 301-827-6242
Consumer Inquiries: 888-INFO-FDA
Statement on Texas Cow With Central Nervous System Symptoms
On Friday, April 30 th , the Food and Drug Administration learned that a cow
with central nervous system symptoms had been killed and shipped to a
processor for rendering into animal protein for use in animal feed.
FDA, which is responsible for the safety of animal feed, immediately began
an investigation. On Friday and throughout the weekend, FDA investigators
inspected the slaughterhouse, the rendering facility, the farm where the
animal came from, and the processor that initially received the cow from the
slaughterhouse.
FDA's investigation showed that the animal in question had already been
rendered into "meat and bone meal" (a type of protein animal feed). Over the
weekend FDA was able to track down all the implicated material. That
material is being held by the firm, which is cooperating fully with FDA.
Cattle with central nervous system symptoms are of particular interest
because cattle with bovine spongiform encephalopathy or BSE, also known as
"mad cow disease," can exhibit such symptoms. In this case, there is no way
now to test for BSE. But even if the cow had BSE, FDA's animal feed rule
would prohibit the feeding of its rendered protein to other ruminant animals
(e.g., cows, goats, sheep, bison).
FDA is sending a letter to the firm summarizing its findings and informing
the firm that FDA will not object to use of this material in swine feed
only. If it is not used in swine feed, this material will be destroyed. Pigs
have been shown not to be susceptible to BSE. If the firm agrees to use the
material for swine feed only, FDA will track the material all the way
through the supply chain from the processor to the farm to ensure that the
feed is properly monitored and used only as feed for pigs.
To protect the U.S. against BSE, FDA works to keep certain mammalian protein
out of animal feed for cattle and other ruminant animals. FDA established
its animal feed rule in 1997 after the BSE epidemic in the U.K. showed that
the disease spreads by feeding infected ruminant protein to cattle.
Under the current regulation, the material from this Texas cow is not
allowed in feed for cattle or other ruminant animals. FDA's action
specifying that the material go only into swine feed means also that it will
not be fed to poultry.
FDA is committed to protecting the U.S. from BSE and collaborates closely
with the U.S. Department of Agriculture on all BSE issues. The animal feed
rule provides crucial protection against the spread of BSE, but it is only
one of several such firewalls. FDA will soon be improving the animal feed
rule, to make this strong system even stronger.
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http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/news/2004/NEW01061.html
ALABAMA MAD COW
Summary:
Despite a thorough investigation of two farms that were known to contain the
index cow,
and 35 other farms that might have supplied the index cow to the farms where
the index
case was known to have resided, the investigators were unable to locate the
herd of
origin. The index case did not have unique or permanent identification,
plus, the size and
color of the cow being traced is very common in the Southern United States.
Due to the
unremarkable appearance of solid red cows, it is not easy for owners to
remember
individual animals. In the Southern United States, it is common business
practice to buy
breeding age cows and keep them for several years while they produce calves.
Most
calves produced are sold the year they are born, whereas breeding cows are
sold when
there is a lapse in breeding, which can occur multiple times in cows' lives.
For all of
these reasons, USDA was unable to locate the herd of origin.
http://www.aphis.usda.gov/newsroom/hot_issues/bse/content/printable_version/EPI_Final.pdf
WASHINGTON MAD COW
Fifty-seven (57) animals were born into the birth herd from April 1996 to
April 1998. Twenty-seven (27) of these animals were traced and confirmed
dead, 25 animals (including the index case) were exported to the US, two
animals were untraceable, ..........
The 48 animals were determined to be among 86 head sold to numerous buyers.
Eighty (80) of these were traced and confirmed slaughtered, 2 were
untraceable .......
http://www.inspection.gc.ca/english/anima/heasan/disemala/bseesb/americ/amerinveste.shtml
and of course we know from here, the USDA mad cow surveillance program was put on hold, shut down, not to confirm another case, no matter what. thus, the BSE MRR policy was born, free for the USA to export what ever strain of mad cow disease they want all around the globe, and it be perfectly legal. now that's progress $$$
(Adopted by the International Committee of the OIE on 23 May 2006)
11. Information published by the OIE is derived from appropriate
declarations made by the official Veterinary Services of Member Countries.
The OIE is not
responsible for inaccurate publication of country disease status based on
inaccurate information or
changes in epidemiological status or other significant events that were not
promptly
reported to then Central Bureau............
http://www.oie.int/eng/Session2007/RF2006.pdf
http://usdameatexport.blogspot.com/
BSE BASE MAD COW TESTING TEXAS, USA, AND CANADA, A REVIEW OF SORTS
http://madcowtesting.blogspot.com/
MADCOW USDA the untold story
http://madcowusda.blogspot.com/
MADCOW USDA the untold story continued
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6472149427883113751&postID=4829467681293855400
USA NOR-98 SCRAPIE UPDATE AUGUST 31, 2007 RISES TO 5 DOCUMENTED CASES
http://nor-98.blogspot.com/
TSS
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Guest
That should be left to the individual states to figure out whatever they want-- and what works best in their area....But again- that is another one that USDA screwed up from minute one with their "MANDATE"....
Silver said:
You pretty well nailed it Silver and that's the reason most of us have moved on.
You won't tell the Ayatollah of Montanastan much about life. He's pretty well done it all and thinks he has lived it all thanks to his hoss named ...'Puter.. A true fullblooded DELL that has squeaked him through many a tight spot with those bandit Canadian desperados on Ranchers.Net and other "chat" sites thanks to his trusty sidekick GOOGLE. Yep a true expert on the world.
Sadly, we all know the answer to that. FInd 3 casas of BSE and then WHAM!!!!!! What ARE WE DOING......That's enough digging PHYLLIS FONG....What the heck are you trying to do ........
Only a complete OVI would keep trying to throw dirt into the wind at a country that has a superior disease control system and actually finds and trys to control problems instead of what we have seen time and time again from the US. Just keep squealing like a pig in crap there Oldtimer every time you think you find something to pin on Canada. We know its your true charactrer.
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Guest
In other words-- Bill and Silver-- you're too immature to handle the bad news-eh :???: Only want things shown to you after they are sugar coated and silver plated....
Hate to tell you boys this--but things aren't always all hunky dory and nicey nice like all good socialists want them.....The world just ain't that way....And many times whats good for us down south-- ain't good for you up north...All in the perspective of which country your looking at it from...
Hate to tell you boys this--but things aren't always all hunky dory and nicey nice like all good socialists want them.....The world just ain't that way....And many times whats good for us down south-- ain't good for you up north...All in the perspective of which country your looking at it from...
Oldtimer said:
No sugar coating required. Unlike you we have dealt with the past 5 years of hell first hand and no google will give the details of what Canadian producers and their families have been through. If by the term socialist you mean, caring about our neighbors regardless of which side of an imaginary line they live; then I guess we are guilty. If you mean protectionist and wanting to throw up walls to keep the truth and the rest of the world out you only need to look in the closest mirror; by what you have written over the years, you're as socialist as they come.
Set that mirror up by your 'Puter as you saddle up to ride the 'net OVI and then tell us we're wrong. I bet its quite a sight with that snoose dripping on your keyboard especially when you find something about Canada.
The animal in question was killed in Quebec and came from northern BC. Can the USDA do that kind of tracking without NAIS? NO is the answer but OT seems to think if he could track his animals within montana that is good enough. :roll: Keep on passing the buck. And the US wonders why the OIE gave canada such a favorable rating. :roll: CFIA actually finding a diseases animal and not covering it up unlike the USDA with a possible F&M positive kinda makes the CFIA look good they find something and make it public instead of hiding it. Just the difference of the 2 countries. Canada knows when problems pop up they must be dealt with rather than the cone of silence in the US employs. We worry about the public and the US worries about how much money will be lost, just look at the extreme lengths that had to be taken in montana late this summer. Oh well keep on digging more holes at least John Deere will has a good market for their backhoes domestically. :lol:
Sandhusker
Well-known member
You don't seem to care much about the public down here, except that you get our money.
rkaiser
Well-known member
The sooner we can unbolt ourselves from the games of the packer led USDA the better.
The world is waiting Canada...........................
The world is waiting Canada...........................
katrina
Well-known member
rkaiser said:
I would love to say: " I know that man!!"
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Guest
katrina said:
I agree 100% Katrina--- and from what I read on Agri ville he is a new board member of ABP
:clap: Because its folks like Kaiser and Cam that are going to have to bring the Canadian cattle industry out of where it is....I feel for Bill and Silver-- and all the individual Canadian producers/cattlemen--but I don't for the policy their leadership/government/packers have sold them down- that the US is responsible to keep there industry viable...Nor do I feel sympathy for the folks like Farmers_son that posts on that site- that oppose all testing- any looking for outside markets- or anything that might upset the US multinationals packers feelings so they can always have the US hind teat to ride on.....
Yep-- at least ol Kaiser don't follow the old CCA/ABP/NCBA drumbeat that "thats the way we done it for 20-30-40 years- so we have to still have to do it that way now"......And kissing packer behind like the last few years hasn't got them or us anywhere....
SandH - WEAK !! :roll: Yeah that is why i test all my cattle that qualify in Canada. I feed out my own calves and have them killed up here in plants i am involved with and canadians eat them. With the hostilities from some US ranchers i would prefer to have my countrymen eat only canadian beef but we have trade agreements with the US, so we allow some US beef in US based restaurants. Too bad others don't take contracts as seriously. :roll: You might not have to worry much longer with cattle prices the way they are the cowherd up here is expected to drop by 40 - 50 %. Who will you bother when Canada's cowherd is so small and only accounts for 1% of the beef consumed in the US ? Who will you blame your problems on then ? GAL
HeyNow
Active member
Oldtimer said:
Those who live in glass houses should not cast stones.Anything to line your pockets you cheating lying r-calfers.What about your blue tongue in Montana and with all your elk and moose you have Tb and Johne's there too Dumb Dumb.
Now lets move on to people since you all want to attack Canada wasn't that little SOB from the states that was infected with TB and quarantined and still flew while infecting others.
This was a human not a cow so who is the ignorant piece of sh@t I think he's a yankee.
Close the border shut and keep your e coli infected vegetables too.KMA.
HeyNow writes: cheating lying r-calfers,- there too Dumb Dumb, -who is the ignorant piece of sh@t I think he's a yankee
Wow! Congratulations HeyNow! You have come close to the most stupid childish post I've read on this site. Are you sure your name isn't Scott? If the intent of your post is only to stomp your feet and insult someone, at least do it with a little class. I brought you a little help from the 'ultimate insult' site. You might try something like:
[You snail-skulled little rabbit. Would that a hawk pick you up, drive its beak into your brain, and upon finding it rancid set you loose to fly briefly before spattering the ocean rocks with the frothy pink shame of your ignoble blood. May you choke on the queasy, convulsing nausea of your own trite, foolish beliefs.]
Then choose from the following:
[You are hypocritical, greedy, violent, malevolent, vengeful, cowardly, deadly, mendacious, meretricious, loathsome, despicable, belligerent, opportunistic, barratrous, contemptible, criminal, fascistic, bigoted, racist, sexist, avaricious, tasteless, idiotic, brain-damaged, imbecilic, insane, arrogant, deceitful, demented, lame, self-righteous, byzantine, conspiratorial, satanic, fraudulent, libelous, bilious, splenetic, spastic, ignorant, clueless, illegitimate, harmful, destructive, dumb evasive, double-talking, devious, revisionist, narrow, manipulative, paternalistic, fundamentalist, dogmatic, idolatrous, unethical, cultic, diseased, suppressive, controlling, restrictive, malignant, deceptive, dim, crazy, weird, dystopic, stifling, uncaring, plantigrade, grim, unsympathetic, jargon-spouting, censorious, secretive, aggressive, mind-numbing, arassive, poisonous, flagrant, self-destructive, abusive, socially-retarded, puerile, and Generally Not Good.]
I hope this helps. If your sole intent is to be a prick, why be a little one?
Wow! Congratulations HeyNow! You have come close to the most stupid childish post I've read on this site. Are you sure your name isn't Scott? If the intent of your post is only to stomp your feet and insult someone, at least do it with a little class. I brought you a little help from the 'ultimate insult' site. You might try something like:
[You snail-skulled little rabbit. Would that a hawk pick you up, drive its beak into your brain, and upon finding it rancid set you loose to fly briefly before spattering the ocean rocks with the frothy pink shame of your ignoble blood. May you choke on the queasy, convulsing nausea of your own trite, foolish beliefs.]
Then choose from the following:
[You are hypocritical, greedy, violent, malevolent, vengeful, cowardly, deadly, mendacious, meretricious, loathsome, despicable, belligerent, opportunistic, barratrous, contemptible, criminal, fascistic, bigoted, racist, sexist, avaricious, tasteless, idiotic, brain-damaged, imbecilic, insane, arrogant, deceitful, demented, lame, self-righteous, byzantine, conspiratorial, satanic, fraudulent, libelous, bilious, splenetic, spastic, ignorant, clueless, illegitimate, harmful, destructive, dumb evasive, double-talking, devious, revisionist, narrow, manipulative, paternalistic, fundamentalist, dogmatic, idolatrous, unethical, cultic, diseased, suppressive, controlling, restrictive, malignant, deceptive, dim, crazy, weird, dystopic, stifling, uncaring, plantigrade, grim, unsympathetic, jargon-spouting, censorious, secretive, aggressive, mind-numbing, arassive, poisonous, flagrant, self-destructive, abusive, socially-retarded, puerile, and Generally Not Good.]
I hope this helps. If your sole intent is to be a prick, why be a little one?
Heynow hits a nerve. Fedup2 you should check pasts posts of HM , OT et al. if you want to see childish, stupid ,visciouous, vial personal attacks. HN pointed out the hypocracy in a very direct manner, as that seems to be the only way to make ones point with some on here with certain individuals. Personally i do not have the time to waste certain indivduals.