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Bill said:
Who holds your hand when I'm not there Bill :???: :wink: :lol: :lol:
Canadian cattle entering U.S. without ID tags
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Who holds your hand when I'm not there Bill :???: :wink: :lol: :lol:
cowsense
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Sandhusker said:
What's not true, Sadhusker?? We as Canadians are sick to death of your pet organizations constant lies and sensationalistic attacks on our industry. Perhaps Washington beef producers should wake up to the fact that their packing plants cannot economically operate on domestic supply alone and probably will close if Canadian cattle aren't available! Figure out the freight on a load of fats to Nebraska or Colorado and see what that will do to their feeding industry! This is just another example of BAN IMPORTS NO MATTER WHAT CONSEQUENCES FOLLOW :!:
Oldtimer said:
Not sure what you mean OT but no hand holding is needed or wanted. I told you I'm definitely not that type. Sorry you'll have to keep looking or maybe you can join Haymaker and his "friend" Elmo on one their soirees.
Sandhusker
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What's not true? I highlighted part of the quote - I don't know how to make it flash or I would for you.
Kato
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This part?
but also to fully close the border to any cattle from Canada, any cattle from Mexico, or cattle from any other country
What part of that is not true? Please explain? We've certainly gotten the impression that this is exactly true. :? Wasn't R-Calf founded initially for the express purpose of stopping imports of cattle from Canada and Mexico?
Here is a quote directly from the R-Calf website.
"Why was R-CALF USA founded?
In 1998 the R-CALF USA was founded as a foundation to represent and file three trade cases on behalf of the U.S. cattle industry. Trade laws are different from domestic laws in that it is generally required that the domestic industry monitors them and files the appropriate petitions when a trade violation occurs that is damaging U.S. prices.
R-CALF USA filed a live cattle and anti-dumping (selling below the cost of production) case against Canada and Mexico , and a countervailing (subsidy) case against Canada. "
Sounds to me like we and Mexico are the reason this organization was founded. It goes on to say that you did not win these cases, but I didn't include that in my post. :wink: Don't want to start an arguement. :wink: :wink:
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but also to fully close the border to any cattle from Canada, any cattle from Mexico, or cattle from any other country
What part of that is not true? Please explain? We've certainly gotten the impression that this is exactly true. :? Wasn't R-Calf founded initially for the express purpose of stopping imports of cattle from Canada and Mexico?
Here is a quote directly from the R-Calf website.
"Why was R-CALF USA founded?
In 1998 the R-CALF USA was founded as a foundation to represent and file three trade cases on behalf of the U.S. cattle industry. Trade laws are different from domestic laws in that it is generally required that the domestic industry monitors them and files the appropriate petitions when a trade violation occurs that is damaging U.S. prices.
R-CALF USA filed a live cattle and anti-dumping (selling below the cost of production) case against Canada and Mexico , and a countervailing (subsidy) case against Canada. "
Sounds to me like we and Mexico are the reason this organization was founded. It goes on to say that you did not win these cases, but I didn't include that in my post. :wink: Don't want to start an arguement. :wink: :wink:
:wink:Sandhusker
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Kato said:This part?
but also to fully close the border to any cattle from Canada, any cattle from Mexico, or cattle from any other country
What part of that is not true? Please explain? We've certainly gotten the impression that this is exactly true. :? Wasn't R-Calf founded initially for the express purpose of stopping imports of cattle from Canada and Mexico?
Here is a quote directly from the R-Calf website.
"Why was R-CALF USA founded?
In 1998 the R-CALF USA was founded as a foundation to represent and file three trade cases on behalf of the U.S. cattle industry. Trade laws are different from domestic laws in that it is generally required that the domestic industry monitors them and files the appropriate petitions when a trade violation occurs that is damaging U.S. prices.
R-CALF USA filed a live cattle and anti-dumping (selling below the cost of production) case against Canada and Mexico , and a countervailing (subsidy) case against Canada. "
Sounds to me like we and Mexico are the reason this organization was founded. It goes on to say that you did not win these cases, but I didn't include that in my post. :wink: Don't want to start an arguement. :wink: :wink:
First of all, where does R-CALF mention "any other country"? Don't limit your search to just what you brought right here.
Secondly, wouldn't the words, "trade violation" give the slightest clue to R-CALF's intent and actions? My grade school grammar teacher, Mrs. Bartholomew taught us that every word in a sentence is there for a reason and provides information key to understanding the message of the sentence.
Kato
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Which would be true if there was a trade violation, which there wasn't.
Sandhusker
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Kato said:
Whether they proved their case or not, clearly they thought there was and that was what brought on the border action. To say that R-CALF wants all live cattle trade with all countries stopped is WRONG.
General News
USDA refutes Washington cattlemen's take on Canada cattle imports
By Tom Johnston on 2/21/2007 for Meatingplace.com
USDA officials are disputing a claim by Washington producers that hundreds of Canadian cattle have crossed the border without the proper paperwork.
Bruce Knight, the USDA official charged with investigating whether any federal trade infractions occurred, told Dow Jones Newswires that initial review indicates there have only been a handful of errors in state-level documentation in Washington.
Andrea McNally of Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service's legislative and public Affairs division said most of the problems found so far involved failures by feedlots to provide Washington State Veterinarian's Office with copies of "movement permits" when cattle were transported to slaughterhouses from feedlots.
Washington State Department of Agriculture spokesman Jason Kelly told reporters the state is intent on making sure Canadian cattle are heading directly to slaughter as required. He added that there is "no evidence that any Canadian cattle have moved outside of slaughter channels."
The law
Federal law stipulates that imported Canadian cattle must either be sent directly to slaughter or to a dedicated feedlot prior to slaughter, and that animals be slaughtered before they reach 30 months of age, McNally explained.
But Willard Wolf, a cattle broker and rancher and member of Cattle Producers of Washington, which uncovered the irregularities, told Meatingplace.com there is evidence indicating that Canadian animals, and many of them older than 30 months of age, are slipping through the cracks.
"The documents show that cattle are arriving without ear tags, health papers do not match seals on trucks, headcounts are off, and trucks are being opened by unauthorized personnel," he said.
http://web.meatingplace.com/news/init.asp?s=13d522007_17452
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USDA refutes Washington cattlemen's take on Canada cattle imports
By Tom Johnston on 2/21/2007 for Meatingplace.com
USDA officials are disputing a claim by Washington producers that hundreds of Canadian cattle have crossed the border without the proper paperwork.
Bruce Knight, the USDA official charged with investigating whether any federal trade infractions occurred, told Dow Jones Newswires that initial review indicates there have only been a handful of errors in state-level documentation in Washington.
Andrea McNally of Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service's legislative and public Affairs division said most of the problems found so far involved failures by feedlots to provide Washington State Veterinarian's Office with copies of "movement permits" when cattle were transported to slaughterhouses from feedlots.
Washington State Department of Agriculture spokesman Jason Kelly told reporters the state is intent on making sure Canadian cattle are heading directly to slaughter as required. He added that there is "no evidence that any Canadian cattle have moved outside of slaughter channels."
The law
Federal law stipulates that imported Canadian cattle must either be sent directly to slaughter or to a dedicated feedlot prior to slaughter, and that animals be slaughtered before they reach 30 months of age, McNally explained.
But Willard Wolf, a cattle broker and rancher and member of Cattle Producers of Washington, which uncovered the irregularities, told Meatingplace.com there is evidence indicating that Canadian animals, and many of them older than 30 months of age, are slipping through the cracks.
"The documents show that cattle are arriving without ear tags, health papers do not match seals on trucks, headcounts are off, and trucks are being opened by unauthorized personnel," he said.
http://web.meatingplace.com/news/init.asp?s=13d522007_17452
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