Capital Concerns

[Econ101]

Lying King: "SH, the real test to the validity of the USDA's and your arguments is in the sales of U.S. beef. It has been anemic at best and outright rejected by many."

Due to having bse in our native herd (no thanks to R-CULT considering that situation as contaminated and high risk beef) not due to not adopting fraudulent testing practices.

Lying King: "The USDA and NCBA may be able to rule the U.S, market because of the packer lackeys in Congress, but our international customers just are not buying it."

Oh, I suppose that would explain why Japan is importing our beef huh?

Lying King: "As I said, the test is in the sales. Not there yet."

Due to bse, not due to not adopting fraudulent bse testing.

Lying King: "You still haven't answered my question about the Australians feeding MBM back to cattle. Do you know anything about the cattle business or is this just another stumper for you?"

What about Australia?


Do you know what you are talking about THIS TIME or is this just another lie from you?


~SH~

So in other words, you don't have a clue.

 

[Anonymous]

Lying King: "So in other words, you don't have a clue.

Lying King, if you have a point you want to make regarding Australia feeding MBM, MAKE IT! Quit dancing!

What's your point (under the stupid assumption that you actually have one)?


~SH~

 

[Econ101]

Lying King: "So in other words, you don't have a clue.

Lying King, if you have a point you want to make regarding Australia feeding MBM, MAKE IT! Quit dancing!

What's your point (under the stupid assumption that you actually have one)?


~SH~

.....all facets.....

 

[Anonymous]

MORE DIVERSION!

Par for the "factually void".


~SH~

 

[mrj]

SH, the real test to the validity of the USDA's and your arguments is in the sales of U.S. beef. It has been anemic at best and outright rejected by many.

The USDA and NCBA may be able to rule the U.S, market because of the packer lackeys in Congress, but our international customers just are not buying it.

As I said, the test is in the sales. Not there yet.

You still haven't answered my question about the Australians feeding MBM back to cattle. Do you know anything about the cattle business or is this just another stumper for you?

Econ, in order to serve your personal vendetta against "corporations", you ignore the fact that politics has a very large part in US beef export trade, or lack thereof, in both Japan and S. Korea.

Would S. Korea have accepted the shipments containing minute numbers of minute size bone fragments IF it had been BSE tested by Creekstone?

Of course we will never know, BUT, it is highly doubtful. Ag media carries many stories citing the political power of S. Korean beef producers as the real reason for 'finding' obscure reasons to refuse those shipments of US beef.

A reference in one of the stories re. S. Korea refusing the shipments contained a comment, possibly by a Korean person stating (paraphrasing) the big packers in US use machines, and therefore cannot eliminate bone chips. The implication, IMO, is that they want us to use knives only to bone the meat for them. Does anyone believe they willing to pay the much higher costs of that procedure? They are demonstrating, both to their own citizens, and to the USA that they are tough traders! I see it as tough and not entirely honest.

MRJ

MRJ

 

[Econ101]

SH, the real test to the validity of the USDA's and your arguments is in the sales of U.S. beef. It has been anemic at best and outright rejected by many.

The USDA and NCBA may be able to rule the U.S, market because of the packer lackeys in Congress, but our international customers just are not buying it.

As I said, the test is in the sales. Not there yet.

You still haven't answered my question about the Australians feeding MBM back to cattle. Do you know anything about the cattle business or is this just another stumper for you?

Econ, in order to serve your personal vendetta against "corporations", you ignore the fact that politics has a very large part in US beef export trade, or lack thereof, in both Japan and S. Korea.

Would S. Korea have accepted the shipments containing minute numbers of minute size bone fragments IF it had been BSE tested by Creekstone?

Of course we will never know, BUT, it is highly doubtful. Ag media carries many stories citing the political power of S. Korean beef producers as the real reason for 'finding' obscure reasons to refuse those shipments of US beef.

A reference in one of the stories re. S. Korea refusing the shipments contained a comment, possibly by a Korean person stating (paraphrasing) the big packers in US use machines, and therefore cannot eliminate bone chips. The implication, IMO, is that they want us to use knives only to bone the meat for them. Does anyone believe they willing to pay the much higher costs of that procedure? They are demonstrating, both to their own citizens, and to the USA that they are tough traders! I see it as tough and not entirely honest.

MRJ

MRJ

MRJ, I do not have a personal vendetta against corporations. It is just that I can see the world around me and you seem to be blind to it.

Maybe a subscription to the Wall Street Journal might help you with your ignorance. Of course, you may be happy with your ignorance, and in that case no one can help you.

Our trade representatives have not been able to deliver. Of that there can be no question. The reasons, for most of us, are obvious. Our trade representatives have caved into the interests of international companies who pay politicians off. Either that or they are just as incompetent as you on seeing the facts. I tend to believe the former given Delay's dealings, the K Street connection with the republicans, and the payoffs that were uncovered and posted on this board. The NCBA has been just as incompetent when it comes to producer interests in this matter.


Bone fragments are not the issue. The safety of the meat due to bse concerns is. Creekstone would not have had the Japanese contacts and requests had this not been the case. Were the Japanese themselves trying to get bse tested beef from Creekstone just to have it not shipped to them?

You are about as dumb as you are stubborn, MRJ. What are you drinking?

Ignorance from people like you is one of the reasons we have such huge trade deficits. Yes, Walmart wins, but producers lose.

Whose side are you on anyway?

 

[Anonymous]

The ignorance in this thread is dominated by you Lying King, just as always.

How can anyone be more stupid than to suggest that Japan wants bse tested beef AS THEY IMPORT NON TESTED BEEF FROM CANADA AND THE US???

Your USDA blame is as empty as your head.


~SH~