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BRG

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I am working on my newsletter and I am trying to find the national average % for Choice or higher and the national average % of Yield grade 4's or higher. Can anyone give me a link or some answers?

Thanks?
BRG
 
BRG said:
I am working on my newsletter and I am trying to find the national average % for Choice or higher and the national average % of Yield grade 4's or higher. Can anyone give me a link or some answers?

Thanks?
BRG

BRG:

For what time period? Last year compared to '04, the past five years, past ten, etc.?

I might be able to help!

Cheers---

TTB :wink:
 
BRG:

According to the National Beef Quality Audits, completed in 1991, 1005, 2000, and 2005, and just released:

Comparison of Quality Audits, 1991-2005 for USDA Quality Grade:


USDA PR and CH:
1991: 55%
1995: 48%
2000: 51%
2005: 57% ** Best ever

USDA ST and lower:
1991: 8%
1995: 5%
2000: 7%
2005: 5%

Comparison of Quality Audits, 1991-2005 for USDA Yield Grade:

USDA YG 1&2:
1991: 45%
1995: 58%
2000: 50%
2005: 53%

USDA YG 4&5:
1991: 17%
1995: 8%
2000: 12%
2005: 14%

Remember that in 1995 corn was $5 or better a bushel, so there was a lot of incentive not to overfeed cattle!

This was data presented by the group completing the 2005 Audit and on July 12th, 2006. The data has not been published as of today, so I don't have a link to provide you for the scientifically reviewed paper. Also remember, the data includes dairy and bos indicus cattle, as well as "native" breeds of cattle.

Let me know if you need something else!

Cheers---

TTB :wink:
 
BRG said:
Turkey Track,

Do you have any idea what the national average for REA size is? Same years.

If I get a chance today, I'll see if I can find that for the previous years....

In 2005, but steers and heifers had an average REA size of 13.4 inches square, but again, there are a pile (8% of the cattle) of dairy steers in this audit, and they almost always have smaller ribeyes than "native" or "bos indicus" cattle, so likely the steer REA would be larger for native type cattle.

A couple of interesting things....

End users (restauranteers, purveyors, grocers, exporters, etc.) were asked their opinions of the future issues for the beef industry, and have the following concerns:

--New bacterial pathogens (especially multidrug resistent E colis and Salmonellas (typherium, Newport))
--Additional BSE issues
--Market access & export requirements (age and source verification will become a must)
--Price of beef is so high that it is having trouble competing
--Eating consistencies
--Animals keep getting bigger (weight/size problems.)

When asked of End Users (restauranteers, purveyors, grocers, etc.) about their opinions of the Top Ten Beef Quality Defects, the Top 5 were:
1. Lack of uniformity/consistency in marbling and tenderness
2. Cut are too large for foodservice and restaurant trade!!! (I know for ag folks it's hard to imagine, but most folks don't want a 16 oz steak, they'd prefer 8 or 10 ounces, and with increased REA, that really becomes hard to offer a good eating experience, and this also one of the reasons some restaurants are only offering filet mignon on their menus...for cut size.)
3. Excess fat
4 Abscesses/lession in cuts, trimmings, and variety meats, especially due to injection site lesions in the shoulder, and severe liver abscesses (one of the negatives of natural/organic beef)
5 Blood splashed muscle (or maybe deep bruising?)

Also, a comparison of average carcass weights over past audits:

1991: 759 lbs
1995: 748 lbs (likely low because of high priced corn)
2000: 787 lbs
2005: 796 lbs

It's often said that "every 1 pound increase in carcass weight is equal to adding 1,000 head of cattle to the weekly slaughter." So, demand is doing a pretty good job of keeping up.

Cheers---

TTB :wink:
 
Turkey Track Bar said:
Mike said:
Angus/Hereford 12.3
Simmental 13.5
Gelbvieh 13.5
Charolais 14.2

From the 2004 NBQA
These are from 775 lb carcasses

Mike...to my knowledge, there was not a 2004 NBQA...so I'd be interested to see that data. Do you have a link to it?

Thanks,

TTB :wink:


Mike just made that up cause Charolais were the biggest. :wink:
 
Turkey Track Bar said:
Mike said:
Angus/Hereford 12.3
Simmental 13.5
Gelbvieh 13.5
Charolais 14.2

From the 2004 NBQA
These are from 775 lb carcasses

Mike...to my knowledge, there was not a 2004 NBQA...so I'd be interested to see that data. Do you have a link to it?

Thanks,

TTB :wink:

The audit that was released last year, 2005, I presume was taken from data in 2004:

http://beef-mag.com/mag/beef_gone_flabby/index.html

Sorry, it was data from the Meat Animal Research Center. Says just below it.
 
Mike said:
Angus/Hereford 12.3
Simmental 13.5
Gelbvieh 13.5
Charolais 14.2

From the 2004 NBQA
These are from 775 lb carcasses


This might be the reason all the "bulls of the month" being promoted by the Angus breeders lately are the top ribeye bulls.....
 
Oldtimer said:
Mike said:
Angus/Hereford 12.3
Simmental 13.5
Gelbvieh 13.5
Charolais 14.2

From the 2004 NBQA
These are from 775 lb carcasses


This might be the reason all the "bulls of the month" being promoted by the Angus breeders lately are the top ribeye bulls.....

It is true that the Angus breed could use some more ribeye (lean meat yield), but more REA is sometimes antagonistic to marbling (quality grades).

It can be done and I'm sure there are many working on it. Breeding for a single trait (as was done with growth) can fly in the face.
 
BRG said:
Turkey Track,

Do you have any idea what the national average for REA size is? Same years.

BRG:

I dug out the Executive Summary of the 2000 NBQA Audit...here are some comparisons:

Fat Thickness (on avg for steers and heifers)
1991: .59 in.
1995: .47 in.
2000: .49 in.
2005: Steers: .50 in.; Heifers: .57 in.

REA:
1991: 12.9 in square
1995: 12.8 in square
2000: 13.1 in square
2005: 13.4 in square

REA/ Cwt. of carcass wt.
1991: 1.7 in square/cwt carcass
1995: 1.71 in square/cwt carcass
2000: 1.66 in square/cwt carcass
2005: 1.68 in square/cwt carcass

(Thus REA isn't going up at the same rate as carcass wts., which is to be expected, and from this, it should be expected that YG might go up)

Hope this helps....

Cheers---

TTB :wink:
 
Mike said:
Turkey Track Bar said:
Mike said:
Angus/Hereford 12.3
Simmental 13.5
Gelbvieh 13.5
Charolais 14.2

From the 2004 NBQA
These are from 775 lb carcasses

Mike...to my knowledge, there was not a 2004 NBQA...so I'd be interested to see that data. Do you have a link to it?

Thanks,

TTB :wink:

The audit that was released last year, 2005, I presume was taken from data in 2004:

http://beef-mag.com/mag/beef_gone_flabby/index.html

Sorry, it was data from the Meat Animal Research Center. Says just below it.

Thanks Mike :D

Cheers---

TTB :wink:
 
Mike said:
Oldtimer said:
Mike said:
Angus/Hereford 12.3
Simmental 13.5
Gelbvieh 13.5
Charolais 14.2

From the 2004 NBQA
These are from 775 lb carcasses


This might be the reason all the "bulls of the month" being promoted by the Angus breeders lately are the top ribeye bulls.....

It is true that the Angus breed could use some more ribeye (lean meat yield), but more REA is sometimes antagonistic to marbling (quality grades).

It can be done and I'm sure there are many working on it. Breeding for a single trait (as was done with growth) can fly in the face.


:clap: :clap: :clap:

To both posts...

Cheers---

TTB :wink:
 
Big Muddy rancher said:
Turkey Track Bar said:
Mike said:
Angus/Hereford 12.3
Simmental 13.5
Gelbvieh 13.5
Charolais 14.2

From the 2004 NBQA
These are from 775 lb carcasses

Mike...to my knowledge, there was not a 2004 NBQA...so I'd be interested to see that data. Do you have a link to it?

Thanks,

TTB :wink:


Mike just made that up cause Charolais were the biggest. :wink:

Ah, Big Muddy, actually Mike was being a bit sneaky, and left out one breed, Limousin, which had the largest REA at 14.8 inches square with a range of 11.8-17.8 inches square :wink:

Cheers---

TTB :wink:
 

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