Castration sucess??

[325abn]

Hello All

I am not a Rancher I just have a cow with a calf that was born last summer. The cow is a short horned milker crossed with a red face. The Bull she was bred to is a White park.

When the calf was 6-7 weeks old the owner of the bull that bred my cow came over and castrated my bull calf using the Emasculatome.

Now several months later the calfs testicals seem to be growing. They are certainly there and getting larger. The calf seems to be "acting" like a bull. On occasion he sniffs at his moms rear and raises his lip.

My concern is the the castration did not work.

Do the "symtoms" I state above indicate a unsucessfull castration? If not what would?

Thank you for your input.

 

[PureCountry]

The only sure way to know, would be to put him in a squeeze chute, and feel them. If you can feel 2 distinct marbles in the sack, you've got yourself a bull. Keep in mind, if it's just a sack, that's normal. Lots of steers will have a sack of skin hang down as they get over the castration.

This method your neighbour used - can you explain it? Was it just a tool that crimped/crushed the veins and such above the testicles? Or did it use large rubber bands that were cinched up around the top of the sack?

 

[Anonymous]

This method your neighbour used - can you explain it? Was it just a tool that crimped/crushed the veins and such above the testicles? Or did it use large rubber bands that were cinched up around the top of the sack?

castrated my bull calf using the Emasculatome.

http://www.premier1supplies.com/detail.php?prod_id=71&cat_id=13

Sounds like that is what they did...Never liked them- never used them...Not sure what they'd leave for a sack- but I wouldn't feel very confident that it worked...

 

[325abn]

The only sure way to know, would be to put him in a squeeze chute, and feel them. If you can feel 2 distinct marbles in the sack, you've got yourself a bull. Keep in mind, if it's just a sack, that's normal. Lots of steers will have a sack of skin hang down as they get over the castration.

This method your neighbour used - can you explain it? Was it just a tool that crimped/crushed the veins and such above the testicles? Or did it use large rubber bands that were cinched up around the top of the sack?

It was a tool that crimpted the vein above the testicals.

 

[the_jersey_lilly_2000]

Good sharp pocket knife. That's what we use. So there's no question later. We have used the rubber bands one year. I didnt like them. Sure fire way...cut the end of the sack off, pull the nuts....it's a done deal.

 

[jigs]

I bought a Calicrate banded, and for what I have seen, it is the only way to go...let that natural growth hormone do it's job, then when you wean, just band them.......no muss no fuss.

draw back is no oysters.

 

[Silver]

Good sharp pocket knife. That's what we use. So there's no question later. We have used the rubber bands one year. I didnt like them. Sure fire way...cut the end of the sack off, pull the nuts....it's a done deal.

I see that some people cut the end of the sack right off. I allways wondered why some people prefer to do that, and some people just make a slice. I slice the sack from about half way down. Don't know why, just allways done it that way. I'm sure it's just a matter of personal preference, but has anyone heard anything 'scientific' on the subject?

 

[Doug Thorson]

The oldtimers cut off the end of the bag to count the steers. Modern times show that the sack can close back off and not allow for drainage, thus the slit the bag idea.

 

[TXTibbs]

The knife is a sure way to get them outta there, but there is a risk of infection due to open wound and such and flies. On our ranch up home never ever had a problem with infected sacks on the steers, but our neighbor sure did.....not sure why but I think it had something to do with him leaving his calves in a feedlot area to mother up after branding where we had cleaner pens. Some of their steer calves would swell up the size of a foot ball. Now up home they use the rubbers.....some scoff them, but never had any problems what so ever. The scar after the scrotum dries up and falls is so tiny that flies arn't a problem. Never had a band break but I suppose that is a worry. They do about 400 a year that way.

No as far as the Emasculators we called them wether that is the same as this emasculadome or whatever......but we used the Emasculater when we cut our young horses.......I was told and had the impression by using them it reduced the blood loss but would still cut the scrotum pull them out and use them to snip them off....just on horses....never used them on cattle.

 

[325abn]

There was no blood in this procedure. It certainly looks like they are in the sack.

Is it possible for the testicals to grow yet still not be effective?

 

[Big Muddy rancher]

We called those Burdizzo's Never liked them.

Emasculators like Tibbs mentions worked good on larger cut bulls to crush the cord and cut it Not really nesscesary on smaller calve cut at branding.

We went to the bands at branding time. never have a problem when put on right and checked to make sure both testicles are below the ring. We keep our calves so we do know if something went wrong.

 

[Northern Rancher]

I never thought you'd be a rubber band man BMR!!!

 

[Big Muddy rancher]

I never thought you'd be a rubber band man BMR!!!

It takes the white scrotums of those black calves. :wink:


When we ran yearling I cut and dehorned so many cattle i wanted find a better way,
I run Angus to eliminate the horns and we tried a Wadsworth bander on the bigger stock so we tried the rings on the calves at branding. Worked great.

 

[Northern Rancher]

Bands are good if used right-a colossal pain in the ash if not-can you say belly nut.

 

[Northern Rancher]

Bands are good if used right-a colossal pain in the ash if not-can you say belly nut.

 

[Frankk]

My dad used those for a couple years back in the fifties but always came up with a half bull, one testicale, chances are that is what you have.

 

[Jake]

bands are great as long as the person can count to 2. Evidently that's hardest part about banding!

 

[young gun]

My dad gets the fun job of removing the dreaded belly nut due to banding at birth, or what have you. no problems found when they're sitting on the ground. neighbor bands at birth noticed this fall he had some calves that were banded and had infection where the bag was attached on three calves must of got and infection and stayed with them on pasture during the summer

 

[gcreekrch]

bands are great as long as the person can count to 2. Evidently that's hardest part about banding![/quote

:agree:


We used to knife cut but ran into infection problems a time or two. We band when we tag now, then they're all the same at branding. Did like the look of knife cut steers though.

Used to buy a bunch of everyone else's "mistakes" every fall. It's unbelievable how many cattlemen can't take the time to count to 2.

 

[Faster horses]

We have one customer that uses the Bedizzo's every year and they are happy with the outcome.

I never did like them, but these ranchers say that you have to have someone that knows what they are doing running the Bedizzos.
They have the same fellow do the castrating every year.

Knife cut works for us--with a slit bag. If there is swelling, it pulls the bag apart, not close it off so that it can't drain.