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Castro praises Pope's anti-capitalism stance
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loomixguy
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It appears that the head of the Roman Catholic Church is as demented as a really quite conservative from up north. Wasn't he vetted?
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Why doesn't the news media ask the original question in this thread. If they would, we would be getting somewhere besides the
situation the US is in now.
"So why exactly are anti-capitalists so eager to trade with the US?? Seems ironic."
situation the US is in now.
"So why exactly are anti-capitalists so eager to trade with the US?? Seems ironic."
Re. reasons anti-capitalists want to trade with the US........could it be that they use trade as an opportunity, even a pressure point to solicit, or demand donations for their 'underprivileged' classes sort of like reparations for the US being so fortunate? Maybe they truly understand that capitalism allows all who work to benefit, as opposed to their system which disproportionately takes from those at the bottom.
mrj
mrj
loomixguy
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Someplace else, there's a really quite conservative leftwinger moaning how the Repubs are railing against the Pope's visit because he's not conservative enough.
I'll say this...the Pope seems to me to be mentally challenged... but that's just me.
What I DO know, from having a daughter who works on the Hill, is what a PITA his visit is causing for regular people who work on the Hill...security, parking, office hours, etc. I told her I wouldn't walk across the street to shake his hand, and if I were her I would use a sick day that day. But she'll soldier on and do her job without complaint to everybody but Dad.
I'll say this...the Pope seems to me to be mentally challenged... but that's just me.
What I DO know, from having a daughter who works on the Hill, is what a PITA his visit is causing for regular people who work on the Hill...security, parking, office hours, etc. I told her I wouldn't walk across the street to shake his hand, and if I were her I would use a sick day that day. But she'll soldier on and do her job without complaint to everybody but Dad.
Very likely. The word you use, "reparations", is becoming all to familiar.mrj said:Re. reasons anti-capitalists want to trade with the US........could it be that they use trade as an opportunity, even a pressure point to solicit, or demand donations for their 'underprivileged' classes sort of like reparations for the US being so fortunate? Maybe they truly understand that capitalism allows all who work to benefit, as opposed to their system which disproportionately takes from those at the bottom.
mrj
loomixguy said:Someplace else, there's a really quite conservative leftwinger moaning how the Repubs are railing against the Pope's visit because he's not conservative enough.
I'll say this...the Pope seems to me to be mentally challenged... but that's just me.
What I DO know, from having a daughter who works on the Hill, is what a PITA his visit is causing for regular people who work on the Hill...security, parking, office hours, etc. I told her I wouldn't walk across the street to shake his hand, and if I were her I would use a sick day that day. But she'll soldier on and do her job without complaint to everybody but Dad.
I agree. Obama should be happy about many of his positions, since he thinks manmade global warming is our greatest threat, and likes that open border.
Similar to many other politically liberal people, it seems he likes to urge the use of OUR tax dollars to 'good works' which my faith preaches we as good citizens and Christians should be doing with our OWN dollars.
His beliefs about the global warming scam defy logic, and may well be due to the promoters of global warming solutions mostly involves transfers of great amounts of, again!, US dollars, to 'poorer' nations to help them cut their 'carbon footprint'.
mrj
His beliefs about the global warming scam defy logic, and may well be due to the promoters of global warming solutions mostly involves transfers of great amounts of, again!, US dollars, to 'poorer' nations to help them cut their 'carbon footprint'.
mrj
Mike
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smalltime said:Thats why we need to keep religion out of government.It doesn't matter if it's jews,christians or muslims religion and politics just don't mix.
Just how do you propose to do that? When you have people in government who have religious beliefs, and a 1st Amendment right to Freedom Of Speech, it is an absolute impossibility.
NEXT
!!!!!!! :lol:
Martin Jr.
Well-known member
We just need to keep government out of religion. We see that in many other countries where government has rejected religion and has failed miserably.
I would add that the pope's encyclical on global warming does nothing to support Al Gore and Obama's views. Have you read it? Read it first before commenting on it.
I would add that the pope's encyclical on global warming does nothing to support Al Gore and Obama's views. Have you read it? Read it first before commenting on it.
http://w2.vatican.va/content/dam/francesco/pdf/encyclicals/documents/papa-francesco_20150524_enciclica-laudato-si_en.pdf
A very solid scientific
consensus indicates that we are presently witnessing
a disturbing warming of the climatic system.
In recent decades this warming has been accompanied
by a constant rise in the sea level and, it
would appear, by an increase of extreme weather
events, even if a scientifically determinable cause
cannot be assigned to each particular phenomenon.
Humanity is called to recognize the need
for changes of lifestyle, production and consumption,
in order to combat this warming or at
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least the human causes which produce or aggravate
it. It is true that there are other factors (such
as volcanic activity, variations in the earth's orbit
and axis, the solar cycle), yet a number of scientific
studies indicate that most global warming in
recent decades is due to the great concentration
of greenhouse gases (carbon dioxide, methane,
nitrogen oxides and others) released mainly as a
result of human activity. As these gases build up
in the atmosphere, they hamper the escape of
heat produced by sunlight at the earth's surface.
The problem is aggravated by a model of development
based on the intensive use of fossil fuels,
which is at the heart of the worldwide energy
system. Another determining factor has been an
increase in changed uses of the soil, principally
deforestation for agricultural purposes.
24. Warming has effects on the carbon cycle.
It creates a vicious circle which aggravates the
situation even more, affecting the availability of
essential resources like drinking water, energy
and agricultural production in warmer regions,
and leading to the extinction of part of the planet's
biodiversity. The melting in the polar ice caps
and in high altitude plains can lead to the dangerous
release of methane gas, while the decomposition
of frozen organic material can further
increase the emission of carbon dioxide. Things
are made worse by the loss of tropical forests
which would otherwise help to mitigate climate
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change. Carbon dioxide pollution increases the
acidification of the oceans and compromises the
marine food chain. If present trends continue,
this century may well witness extraordinary climate
change and an unprecedented destruction
of ecosystems, with serious consequences for all
of us. A rise in the sea level, for example, can create
extremely serious situations, if we consider
that a quarter of the world's population lives on
the coast or nearby, and that the majority of our
megacities are situated in coastal areas.
25. Climate change is a global problem with
grave implications: environmental, social, economic,
political and for the distribution of
goods. It represents one of the principal challenges
facing humanity in our day. Its worst impact
will probably be felt by developing countries
in coming decades. Many of the poor live in
areas particularly affected by phenomena related
to warming, and their means of subsistence are
largely dependent on natural reserves and ecosystemic
services such as agriculture, fishing and
forestry. They have no other financial activities
or resources which can enable them to adapt to
climate change or to face natural disasters, and
their access to social services and protection is
very limited. For example, changes in climate,
to which animals and plants cannot adapt, lead
them to migrate; this in turn affects the livelihood
of the poor, who are then forced to leave
their homes, with great uncertainty for their fu-
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ture and that of their children. There has been a
tragic rise in the number of migrants seeking to
flee from the growing poverty caused by environmental
degradation. They are not recognized
by international conventions as refugees; they
bear the loss of the lives they have left behind,
without enjoying any legal protection whatsoever.
Sadly, there is widespread indifference to
such suffering, which is even now taking place
throughout our world. Our lack of response to
these tragedies involving our brothers and sisters
points to the loss of that sense of responsibility
for our fellow men and women upon which all
civil society is founded.
26. Many of those who possess more resources
and economic or political power seem mostly to
be concerned with masking the problems or concealing
their symptoms, simply making efforts to
reduce some of the negative impacts of climate
change. However, many of these symptoms indicate
that such effects will continue to worsen if
we continue with current models of production
and consumption. There is an urgent need to develop
policies so that, in the next few years, the
emission of carbon dioxide and other highly polluting
gases can be drastically reduced, for example,
substituting for fossil fuels and developing
sources of renewable energy. Worldwide there
is minimal access to clean and renewable energy.
There is still a need to develop adequate storage
technologies. Some countries have made consid-
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erable progress, although it is far from constituting
a significant proportion. Investments have
also been made in means of production and
transportation which consume less energy and
require fewer raw materials, as well as in methods
of construction and renovating buildings which
improve their energy efficiency. But these good
practices are still far from widespread.
Big Muddy rancher
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Notice how they always mention the De-forestation of land for agricultural purposes but never mention the pavement put down for cities.
Martin Jr.
Well-known member
"Humanity is called to recognize the need
for changes of lifestyle, production and consumption,
in order to combat this warming or at
19
least the human causes which produce or aggravate
it. It is true that there are other factors (such
as volcanic activity, variations in the earth's orbit
and axis, the solar cycle), yet a number of scientific
studies indicate that most global warming in
recent decades is due to the great concentration
of greenhouse gases (carbon dioxide, methane,
nitrogen oxides and others) released mainly as a
result of human activity. As these gases build up
in the atmosphere, they hamper the escape of
heat produced by sunlight at the earth's surface.
The problem is aggravated by a model of development
based on the intensive use of fossil fuels,
which is at the heart of the worldwide energy
system. Another determining factor has been an
increase in changed uses of the soil, principally
deforestation for agricultural purposes."
Notice that he does not say with certainty that humans cause a large part of global warming, "but produce or aggravate it". and that "a number of scientific studies indicate". This is just a small part of the whole, and not the main message of the encyclical. Mostly it is advice that is common sense in regard to care of the earth.
Deforestation is a big problem in South America where forests are cleared just to make money without any regard to the environment. Deforestation is not a big problem in the U.S. for instance, 150 years ago there were few trees in Iowa, now there are many trees along with agriculture.
He mentions getting away from burning coal to go to cleaner fuels and gas. Here our coal plants are pretty efficient, not perfect, but much better than in many countries. I remember hearing that Mrs. George Washington complained about the coal smoke from home fires. We have come a long way since then, but can strive for better things.
For the most part the encyclical is promoting things farmers and ranchers have done for ages.
for changes of lifestyle, production and consumption,
in order to combat this warming or at
19
least the human causes which produce or aggravate
it. It is true that there are other factors (such
as volcanic activity, variations in the earth's orbit
and axis, the solar cycle), yet a number of scientific
studies indicate that most global warming in
recent decades is due to the great concentration
of greenhouse gases (carbon dioxide, methane,
nitrogen oxides and others) released mainly as a
result of human activity. As these gases build up
in the atmosphere, they hamper the escape of
heat produced by sunlight at the earth's surface.
The problem is aggravated by a model of development
based on the intensive use of fossil fuels,
which is at the heart of the worldwide energy
system. Another determining factor has been an
increase in changed uses of the soil, principally
deforestation for agricultural purposes."
Notice that he does not say with certainty that humans cause a large part of global warming, "but produce or aggravate it". and that "a number of scientific studies indicate". This is just a small part of the whole, and not the main message of the encyclical. Mostly it is advice that is common sense in regard to care of the earth.
Deforestation is a big problem in South America where forests are cleared just to make money without any regard to the environment. Deforestation is not a big problem in the U.S. for instance, 150 years ago there were few trees in Iowa, now there are many trees along with agriculture.
He mentions getting away from burning coal to go to cleaner fuels and gas. Here our coal plants are pretty efficient, not perfect, but much better than in many countries. I remember hearing that Mrs. George Washington complained about the coal smoke from home fires. We have come a long way since then, but can strive for better things.
For the most part the encyclical is promoting things farmers and ranchers have done for ages.
Martin Jr. said:"
Notice that he does not say with certainty that humans cause a large part of global warming, "but produce or aggravate it". and that "a number of scientific studies indicate". This is just a small part of the whole, and not the main message of the encyclical. Mostly it is advice that is common sense in regard to care of the earth.
yet a number of scientific
studies indicate that most global warming in
recent decades is due to the great concentration
of greenhouse gases (carbon dioxide, methane,
nitrogen oxides and others) released mainly as a
result of human activity.
Are we reading the same encyclical? Much of this really is a gift to the nutcase greenies on the left. With all of the killing of Christians, Islamic jihad, unprecedented drug abuse/violence and holocaust type evil going on in the world, I find it disappointing at best that this is so high on the agenda.
Mike
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smalltime said:Electing Ben Carson would be a good start Mike.Carry on.
What you don't understand is that Islam is not a religion, it is a complete governmental/social ideology. Ever hear of "Sharia Law"?
Read a book, do some studying...............................
Besides, Ben Carson is entitled to his opinion just as those who choose NOT to vote for a Socialist.
Larrry
Well-known member
One can not believe in the Constitution and swear to uphold the Constitution and still believe and embrace "Sharia Law"
Mike
Well-known member
Larrry said:One can not believe in the Constitution and swear to uphold the Constitution and still believe and embrace "Sharia Law"
Sharia Law tells them which hand to wipe their butts with and which hand to eat with. That somehow seems unconstitutional. :lol:
But cutting off the hands of a thief doesn't sound too far out of line.................................
