Chinese export requirements
- Thread starter redrobin
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I can't find anything at all about the Mexican cattle needing traceability. Makes no sense. Funny, I remember a time when we couldn't even send anything manufactured in China to relatives wintering in Mexico. It all got inspected, fwiw.
https://www.ams.usda.gov/services/imports-exports/beef-ev-china
And what exactly is a "unique identifier".
https://www.ams.usda.gov/services/imports-exports/beef-ev-china
And what exactly is a "unique identifier".
Big Muddy rancher
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Gee our CCIA tag does that in Canada, Oldtimer used to tell us he had a paper trail on all the cattle in Montana :roll:
gcreekrch
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Big Muddy rancher said:
LOL, maybe the US will use our cattle to fill the contracts.
Brad S
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This is a stinking mountain of horseshit. We find melamine where it doesn't belong in Chinese imports - like baby formula. Lead in children's toys from china. And china wants greater source documentation from us producers than Aussie or Brazil? China is merely trying to play trade games with the same dim witted tactics. What they're asking for is easily provided by any segment that wants to meet that market, but the Chinese have figured out a way to descriminate against US mainstream supply chain meat. So the cheap stuff can't go in china, but that's what the Chinese can afford. Just another dishonorable stinkychinky trick. I love hardball - but if they want to slide in third nails up, saying aw shucks isn't the answer. Seems like us imports need to come from lead certified environs, and products from horribly polluted countries like India and china must be individually tested (for the safety of children). This dishonorable trade restrictions isn't tricky or complicated - time the Chinese learned the shape of the world is round.
Unless Canada now supports country of origin labling, I can't see that satisfying the gut eater market either.
Unless Canada now supports country of origin labling, I can't see that satisfying the gut eater market either.
WB
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I don't think anyone that follows this can be surprised that they are not going to take ractopamine fed beef. They don't take ractopamine fed pork either. They bought the whole Smithfield system from farrow to slaughter for this very reason.
Brad S
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I don't see any benefit to producers from ractopamine type additives. The eu uses implants as an excuse to exclude us beef, and the same is being done with ractopamines. Hell, clenbuterol has been illegal for decades. Frankly, floor sweepings from us packing houses are likely safer than Chinese food products so I see the complaints for what they are, but cattle producers won't suffer if we eliminate ractopamine.
Seriously, it would probably be much simpler since they only have to be traced to the port of entry. They only seem interested in the US "birth farm". What has developed from the past reports of Canada being considered to renew exports directly to China?gcreekrch said:
WB
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Brad, I agree with what you are saying. I find it rather interesting how the press won't use the word ractopamine when covering this story. The pharmaceutical business owns them because of the advertising dollars spent on such drugs.
VB RANCH
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I called from Minnesota clear to Washington DC
trying to find out what would make my calves
eligible for export to China
NO one could tell me
no surprise I guess
trying to find out what would make my calves
eligible for export to China
NO one could tell me
no surprise I guess
VB RANCH said:
I certainly am not an expert. But, I think you'd really want to find a trader you can get your money from here in the states. There's a lot of games that can be played once that meat is on a ship headed to China. I'm not certain who will have a program for it. But, talk to the buyers from your nearest packing plants and see if they have anything in the pipeline and what it takes to be eligible.
The governments hammer policies. Companies actually make the trades if that makes sense.
WB
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Currently cattle have to be NHTC certified to be eligible to export to China. Not very many will qualify unless more people certify them.
scout
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What does it take to certify them
"Not very many will qualify" appears to be a spot-on statement.
https://www.ams.usda.gov/sites/default/files/media/LSOfficialListingNHTC.pdf
https://www.ams.usda.gov/services/imports-exports/nhtc
At this point in the juncture, does it not seem like the point of this agreement is just to get cattle that are imported into the US into a box, stamped "USDA inspected" and diverted to a slowly reopening overseas market? Not saying this is necessarily a bad thing, if it's the best they could do.
https://www.ams.usda.gov/sites/default/files/media/LSOfficialListingNHTC.pdf
https://www.ams.usda.gov/services/imports-exports/nhtc
At this point in the juncture, does it not seem like the point of this agreement is just to get cattle that are imported into the US into a box, stamped "USDA inspected" and diverted to a slowly reopening overseas market? Not saying this is necessarily a bad thing, if it's the best they could do.
WB
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Second party verification that the cattle have not been implanted or fed any growth hormones their entire life. They need this verification starting at their place of birth. They will need to be verified for age in this process also.
VB RANCH
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It don't seem like nobody on here knows eitherVB RANCH said:
VB RANCH
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Since when is the European Union part of China ?redrobin said: