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Our neighbors had their bull sale up here yesterday-one OCC bred two year old projectile tried to jump through the bars at ringside-he didn't quite make it but he caught one of the 4H kids in the face with his nose-scuffed him a bit but he'd could of fit through a bit more they'd of buttedx heads it would of been bad. Logan was buying bulls and was looking at his catalogue-lucky he's tough. Kudos to his Dad for letting him buy bulls at a young age-he put together a good set. The sale averaged $3868 and thgey sold every bull.There's some temperament issues in more than the EXT bloodlines.
 
Glad your friend was alright.I've been to a few bull sales this year,and at every sale there has been a couple of bulls that just clear out the ring.Good for entertainment values as long as the ringmen get out of the way and no one is hurt,but defiantly would never bring those bulls home.How come these purebred guys don't learn how to cut a few more of these bulls and sell them for steer's?I know if i was to sell bulls after the sale i would like to be hearing,wow nice set a bulls,can't wait to see what kind of calves my cows will throw off him.Not wow did you see that ringman have to run,that bull damn near got him!!
 
A person can see some crazy stuff at bull auctions. I was at one a month ago that someone forgot to close the gate at the bottom of the steps that went up to the auction block. A yearling bull went up and was in the Auction block :lol: . Other than some unplugged wires everything ended up OK. The auctioneer said there would be some laundry to do. :D :D
 
Their are times when you just can't tell that those tendencies are there. That bull may have been as gentle as a kitten until he walked in that barn and saw 2 or 300 people staring at him. I know people that act the same way around crowds, it makes them nervous as hell. I had a breeding heifer in
4-H that we kept for a long time, as soon as she calved it was on. She raised something like 6 bulls in a row, all that got kept for sale. None of those bulls had a disposition problem, she was just a good mother.
 
And I'm not sure if all the breeding strategy in the world will predict it either....Take H A Image Maker 0415- his calves I've seen and heard about are pretty high headed and flighty-bouncing off the corrals- and his AAA docility EPD is pretty low- at +1 ....
Now if you look at his sire -Hero 6267 of R R 2418- I've seen some his calves/sons and you had to push them out of the way- and his AAA Docility EPD is one of the highest- +28...One of the reasons some used him was because of his quiet calves...
Nothing stands out (to me anyway) on the Dams side to make him so wild-- but apparently something didn't click in the mating for disposition....
 
The crew in the back can make a big difference too. More sales have the bulls penned out back and just show them on the screen rather than run them in. I like that as the sale goes faster, the bulls are not disturbed as much and you can go out and compare all the cattle anytime you want (even during the sale).
 
No thanks, why would anyone in their right mind want something like this. I guess if you don't value you or your families health. One should be ashamed to even sell this crap.


Oh, excuse me he is black so all is fine. Breed some more of them blacks, if not for you do it for your family.
 
Mr. FH helped at a Red Angus sale today and there was only one bull
that was high-headed. Mr. FH, along with a couple other guys brought the bulls into the ring.
The one that was high-headed, a bull behind him
in the alley started picking on him, actually raised him up off the ground at one point,
and one of the helpers started yelling, and got
the bull upset right before he went into the ring.
Right up to that time, the bull was fine. So, sometimes
it's not the bull, but what happens to the bull prior to going into the ring.
This was really a gentle set of bulls. I'm not excusing this bull by any
means, but I can understand that there may have been circumstances
that brought it out.
 
I've been around enough rank bulls tpo tell nervous from a hunter-when they hit the ring ringing their tail they mean business-95% of the bulls were like that and they averaged-$4870-it's either fools and their money or else some guys think their hands. I can't imagine calving daughters from them.Usually you have one or two get a bit testy not twenty some.
 
Last night was pretty chilly, so Peach put a cow that was calving in a box stall in the barn. The cow was pretty rank, and Peach warned the Kosmo Kid to be quite aware when he tagged the calf and put them out this morning. He got the gate open and the cow sailed right down the alley and out of the barn. Right away she missed her calf and came sailing back in just as fast. Kosmo had the calf in the alley between him and the cow, but she came right over the calf after him. He got to play Miles Hare for a moment. As she scooped him up with her head, he jumped up and did a balancing tight-rope act walking down her back as she rushed up the single lane alleyway. As the cow sped west, he hit the ground heading east, quickly grabbed the calf and got it drug out of the barn before the cow could turn around at the far end to come back. He was well out of the way when she came back. Only then did the adrenalin leave him, and he felt instantly like jello instead of a man of steel.
 
A bull might have help in flipping his nlid but if he can flip as easily as some I don't want him. My kids don't need him and I don't want him around the grandkids at any cost. I don't care if he brings in the dollars, no dollars are worth a crippled or dead family member.

Sorry I will not compromise
 
Oh, to be young and agile again...

Good for Kosmo. He got the job done in spite of the peril he
put himself in...or you put him in. :shock: :wink: :P

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And Larrry and NR, I hear you. I too, think it is not worth
it to have bad cattle around, unless you have someone like
Kosmo :wink: :P . Mr. FH always said "we can't have wild
cattle on this MA and PA outfit." We get rid of those real fast.
 
Went a bull auction on Tuesday and they had one really nasty snorter that tried to clear the ring fence. everybody in the front row was ready to move.
All snorty bulls and cows like that hit the road around here. No sense in getting hurt.
 
As a breeder they should remove them from the sale. No excuse to propagate this. There are enough bulls out there that these should be Hamburger.

That is unless one wants to sell his soul for the almighty buck
 
No excuse for snotty bulls, but I would bet that there are more folks killed and maimed by 'pet' bulls than mean ones.
In the latest "Beef in BC" magazine there is a Limo ad promoting the docility of their animals. In the ad an approx. 3yr old boy is in the pen handing some feed up to the bull. The thought struck me that Michael Jackson really got in hot water for holding his kid by a leg over a balcony railing..... but the clowns that put this ad together will likely never hear anything about their foolishness.
 
Silver said:
No excuse for snotty bulls, but I would bet that there are more folks killed and maimed by 'pet' bulls than mean ones.
In the latest "Beef in BC" magazine there is a Limo ad promoting the docility of their animals. In the ad an approx. 3yr old boy is in the pen handing some feed up to the bull. The thought struck me that Michael Jackson really got in hot water for holding his kid by a leg over a balcony railing..... but the clowns that put this ad together will likely never hear anything about their foolishness.
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Years ago, my uncle had a cow in a pen in his barn that was pretty much incapacitated. He planned to sell her if she recovered enough to do so, and in the meantime he wondered if I could use her baby calf. As Sparky was already in school, I took along Sunflower and the Kosmo Kid as they weren't in school yet. The two little kids went with my uncle and I into the barn, and were standing in the doorway of the pen while he and I went in to grab the calf. That old supposedly incapacitated cow jumped up and rushed through the opening to get into the outside world. Both little kids were run over and knocked down in the process, but very fortunately came through the experience unhurt.

It makes me nervous seeing small children in a pen with a cow and baby calf, no matter what breed is involved. Any cow with a newborn is naturally protective, and small children, dogs, cats, or chickens are likely to get nailed. I dislike buying bulls that have been played with and petted. They are more apt to "get in my space" and hurt a guy than some slightly wilder bull that hasn't been taught to be too friendly.
 
Soapweed said:
It makes me nervous seeing small children in a pen with a cow and baby calf, no matter what breed is involved.
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I feel the same way about kids and horses, too. Even a bomb-proof hoss can have a bad day.
 
Silver said:
No excuse for snotty bulls, but I would bet that there are more folks killed and maimed by 'pet' bulls than mean ones.
In the latest "Beef in BC" magazine there is a Limo ad promoting the docility of their animals. In the ad an approx. 3yr old boy is in the pen handing some feed up to the bull. The thought struck me that Michael Jackson really got in hot water for holding his kid by a leg over a balcony railing..... but the clowns that put this ad together will likely never hear anything about their foolishness.
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Well said :wink: .
 

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