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College opinions?

jigs said:
Jassy, how can your kid not like Manhattan?? those beautiful Flint Hills are a country boys DREAM! I highly recomend that he keep tabs on the Z Bar Ranch ( now called Tall Grass Praire Reserve) and go on the tour they offer in the spring... absolutly breath taking!



It's the city he don't like...he's been in the country to long and misses the wide open spaces of Wyoming and Nebraska Sandhills...hates the traffic and what he calls "stupid college kids"...driving around..lol With school and work, he doesn't get do much sightseeing. But I'll be sure and tell him about that Z bar ranch...thanks...

P.S. jigs...when he turns 21 in a couple of months I'm going down there to celebrate with him,,so maybe we'll see some of the sights then...lol
 
Jassy said:
jigs said:
Jassy, how can your kid not like Manhattan?? those beautiful Flint Hills are a country boys DREAM! I highly recomend that he keep tabs on the Z Bar Ranch ( now called Tall Grass Praire Reserve) and go on the tour they offer in the spring... absolutly breath taking!



It's the city he don't like...he's been in the country to long and misses the wide open spaces of Wyoming and Nebraska Sandhills...hates the traffic and what he calls "stupid college kids"...driving around..lol With school and work, he doesn't get do much sightseeing. But I'll be sure and tell him about that Z bar ranch...thanks...

P.S. jigs...when he turns 21 in a couple of months I'm going down there to celebrate with him,,so maybe we'll see some of the sights then...lol

you better let me know...been a while since I boozed it up in Manhappiness.... would love to have any reason at all to get down there for a cold one....
 
I graduated from the University of Wyoming (it's a 4 year, not a junior college). Especially if you're interested in a good repro. education, I'd look into UW and Dr. Murdoch... he was definitely the best professor I had. Here's a link: http://uwadmnweb.uwyo.edu/Anisci/Default.asp

Also, some food for thought about vet school:

Wyoming Veterinary loan repayment program

Wyoming faces a shortage of large animal and food animal veterinarians, as does the rest of the nation. As veterinarians age or change their focus to more lucrative areas such as exclusively small animal practice, our ranching and farming communities find food animal veterinary services increasingly hard to obtain. Many states now address this shortage by providing incentives for food animal veterinarians to come to their state to practice. With average debt loads for a new graduate of $120,000-$170,000, there has to be a mechanism to ease the burden of loan repayment. The starting annual salary for many new veterinary graduates in Wyoming is $30,000-$40,000. This does not allow a decent standard of living for people who just spent a minimum of 7 years in college. Nor does it allow newly graduated veterinarians to repay loans at an annual rate of $12,000-$15.000.

In 2008, the Wyoming legislature provided a means of recruiting new food animal veterinarians and for keeping existing food animal veterinarians in the state.

Rep. Dan Zwonitzer sponsored a bill (HB 74) that provides $270,000 for 2 years to aid in the repayment of educational loans by veterinarians who practice food animal medicine in underserved areas of Wyoming. The law states that the Wyoming Livestock Board, in consultation with the Wyoming Veterinary Medical Associations and Wyoming Veterinary Licensing Board, has oversight of the fund for educational loan repayment. Click here for details of repayment.

The statute provides loan repayment to Wyoming-licensed veterinarians who practiced food animal medicine in the State for 6 months. These veterinarians who apply and are selected by the Wyoming Livestock Board are eligible for up to $30,000 per year for 3 years. "Food animals" are defined as cattle, swine, sheep or goats. The veterinarians must be U.S. citizens and have graduated from an AVMA-accredited veterinary college.

No state money shall be expended for repayment of any loan unless 25% of the money is matched with other funds in any combination from any county, city, veterinary clinic, animal care facility, state agency, university, laboratory or veterinary clinic.

The Board will select recipients based on the following: the area in the state being served; percentage of food animal practice; the amount of educational expense; and whether the recipient has a committed sponsor who will provide 25% of the grant's matching funds.

The American Veterinary Medical Association has guidelines for percentages of food animal practice in Wyoming, as well as defining underserved areas in the State. This AVMA map may be accessed here.

The loans will probably be granted on a 25%, 50%, 75% and 100% of food animal medicine. For example; if a veterinarian spends 50% of her time in food animal medicine, she is eligible for a loan repayment grant of $15,000 per year. This annual amount would be $11,250 from the state and $3750 from the sponsor. The amount could change through the life of a 3 year contract, if other factors intervene, such as the percent of food animal practice involved or if a new sponsor is identified.

Since state funding is $270,000 and sponsor matching fund is $90,000, the maximum available for the biennium is $360,000.00. To assure that the program will be adequately funded for the biennium, probably $120,000 will be spent the first year, with the remainder spent in the second year to cover existing grants and hopefully a second crop of new veterinarians in 2010. With this formula, it is expected that the board and sponsors will fund 4-6 positions a year for 2 years. A request for funding has been included in the exception biennial budget for 2011-2012.

The grant amount would be paid to the selected recipient as a yearly one time payment. The selected recipient may be asked to provide proof that the payment was made to the institution listed on the loan application.

This program is new for Wyoming. The Wyoming Livestock Board and staff are working diligently to make this a program that will attract new food animal veterinarians and keep existing food animal veterinarians in the state. To ensure the program is continued, it is important that the first two years are a success: good food animals hired in underserved parts of the state. If the Board can place or retain 4-6 veterinarians a year for the next 2 years, there is hope that the shortage of food animal veterinarians will be addressed in Wyoming.

Fred Emerich DVM

Field Veterinarian, Wyoming Livestock Board

August 14, 2008


Good luck!
 
Glad to see at least one state has taken steps for this plan. I read an artical probably 4 years ago, about a nation wide program that was to be implemented with basically these same ideas. Except....if the student was going into large animal vet school they'd only have to attend two years instead of the whole amount that is now required. Example: instead of learnin all the ins and outs of dogs cats, rats farrots etc. They'd strictly learn Cattle Horses, sheep pigs goats.

Wish all the other states would get on the ball.
 
I have two kids studying for advanced degrees out of state (KSU), here's my perspective. They attended different universities (NDSU, KSU) for their undergrad. If you get a 28 or higher on your ACT and maintain at least a 3.0 gpa with the amount of scholarship money available tuition really doesn't come into play, whether you go instate or out of state.

I am a great believer of 4 year universities, the four year experience generally allows you more participation in campus activities and that will make you more well rounded. Generally the lower level classes at a four year are more rigerous than at a Juco. If you go to a Juco because the classes are easier you will struggle more when you get the upper level and capstone classes. If you are interested in seeking an advanced degree you need to challange youself as an undergrad because the classes in grad\vet school can get pretty tough. The sooner you get used to studying and learn how to balance the social and school sides of college the better.

Manhattan, KS is a nice little town. If it's size scares you, you might want to rethink your options and career goals.

Aggieville is a great place to visit. If I was younger I'd probably live there.
 
Rambo said:
I have two kids studying for advanced degrees out of state (KSU), here's my perspective. They attended different universities (NDSU, KSU) for their undergrad. If you get a 28 or higher on your ACT and maintain at least a 3.0 gpa with the amount of scholarship money available tuition really doesn't come into play, whether you go instate or out of state.

I am a great believer of 4 year universities, the four year experience generally allows you more participation in campus activities and that will make you more well rounded. Generally the lower level classes at a four year are more rigerous than at a Juco. If you go to a Juco because the classes are easier you will struggle more when you get the upper level and capstone classes. If you are interested in seeking an advanced degree you need to challange youself as an undergrad because the classes in grad\vet school can get pretty tough. The sooner you get used to studying and learn how to balance the social and school sides of college the better.

Manhattan, KS is a nice little town. If it's size scares you, you might want to rethink your options and career goals.

Aggieville is a great place to visit. If I was younger I'd probably live there.
I see a lot of 4 year colleges have a deal with a Jr. College or another college close by to help get the grades up for those struggling freshmen and sophomores. LCCC has a campus close to UW and students take classes at both. During Rex MIT interview, they said they sent Student having trouble down the road away to Harvard get caught up.

:lol: :lol:
 
Brad S said:
Jiggsey ain't spillin quite all the beans 'bout the Lil Apple and the darkside's goingson from JC. I'm sure its an oversight.

sounds like Brad has spent too much time in Junk City and must be refering to those off post gathering sites with all the shinny poles....
 
As a college aged person I definately urge you to start out at the Juco level. There are lots of scholarship opportunities at these schools that make the education dirt cheap. I was planning on transfering to KSU this spring and starting but after looking at the cost of living and cost of schooling I'm putting it off a semester to build up some funds to have a running start at Manhattan. KSU offers a lot of good scholarships to people from Big 12 states that make the tuition just a couple thousand more than in-state.
 
This is real interesting since most of these colleges were on my list when i was of college age. The distance and money was my choice and where I could actually graduate from. SInce you have North Eastern in Colorado you better get your residence and go to CSU I wish I could of went to CSU in your area that is the best. I had a full judging scholarship to North Eastern and Laramie County and took Laramie County my instructors at Laramie County pushed me to go to UW to get my Ag Education degree I got it all done in four years without much cost at that time. I only had to borrow $2000 for college. An local equipment dealer form oour town funded part of my gas as he had always wanted to be a Ag Teacher. I really thank him for that since he has been gone for years.

If your in Nebraska look at Curtis great Ag staff for such a small school.
I think its one of the smallest colleges in the country then go to Lincoln
I recieved a judging scholarship at KSU before going to Wyoming. Should of took that but just not enough to start more than finish at that time they wanted the teams to be frats and I was not cut out for that. That sure would of been great resume if I have CSU or KSU think I would of been better off to have either John Edwards or Bill Able as my judging coach.

Iowa State is good but leans to swine more. Here in Missouri we HAD the best beef man around the country at Missouri State he just got hired by the Beefmaster CEO and is going back to Texas. I think if you are out of state you would get a better shake in Wyoming, Nebraska and some Kansas Schools some of the really good ag schools like their own from their own state.
You are not going to go wrong any where from North Dakota to Texas tough. The rest of the country just does not have it.
 
You could also consider Montana State University located in Bozeman. I know it's a ways away for you but probably no further than some of the other schools that have been mentioned. Although they do not have a school of veterinary medicine they have everything else that a young man like you would want in an ag school. Just a thought, might be worth looking into.
 
Big Muddy rancher said:
Northern Rancher said:
Ty and I are heading down to Montana State in a month or so to check things out-that is if our #$%^& passports are back in time.

If your passports aren't back just have photo ID and your birth certificate.

If you don't have them, Big Muddy can smuggle you across on a backroad. :lol:
 
Unfortunately Montana State lost their best Animal Science professor last year due to retirement and the Animal Science Department Head is a vegetarian ecologist :oops:

myt- You need to decide what you want to specialize in- if it is feedlot nutrition by all means stick with the midwest states. The colleges/universities tend to lean that way. If range nutrition is more up your alley go to a state that relies more on grazed forages.

Also look at the number of labs they have for your basic and advanced classes within your major. This is where the real learning happens.
 

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