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conditioner rolls

We had a conditioner something like that on our old New Holland swather... Worked pretty good- but since the old one of ours didn't have a reverse they were a chore to clean out when they got plugged...
I can tell you digging a big old dead skunk that got plugged in the conditioner is not fun... :gag:
 
Since I ended up with a moco with flails I hope to not go back to rolls. :-)
 
An older jd hydro swing. Was looking to get something else and doing some search on conditioner rolls and ran into this web sight. Kind of interested me. I think something like this would work good on the cane feed I plant where it splits the stalk the whole way. It seems that 90 percent of it dries really good, but there are those chunks sometimes in between where it crimps that stay green forever.
 
They work pretty good if you don't have many gophers. They will build up with dirt and not condition the hay as well.
 
they are supposed to increase the drying time, but I am not sure if they do. neighbors put three on the swathers one year when they treaded rigs....three years later when they traded swathers, no Super crimpers were put on.... they said it was not enough difference to go woth the extra money.

FWIW, I have found that avoiding the rubber rollers, and using steel on steel seems to be a pretty good upgrade.
 
I have Agco swather with steel on steel crimpers, you can turn cane into silage if you are not careful with the settings of the crimper. I wouldnt waste time putting aftermarket ones on, just buy a good swather to begin with. I hired a neighbor with a 3 year old JD moco with some special steel crimpers and it did a darn fine job also, but If they tried to run to fast it didnt work well, 3-4 mph was all they could do in sudan that made 4-5 ton dry.
 
eatbeef said:
I have Agco swather with steel on steel crimpers, you can turn cane into silage if you are not careful with the settings of the crimper. I wouldnt waste time putting aftermarket ones on, just buy a good swather to begin with. I hired a neighbor with a 3 year old JD moco with some special steel crimpers and it did a darn fine job also, but If they tried to run to fast it didnt work well, 3-4 mph was all they could do in sudan that made 4-5 ton dry.
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Is your swather a cycle or rotary? It would seem if 4 mph is all the faster you could condition a heavy cane crop one would just keep the cycle machine.
 
Yes i have a pull type agco 2270. It has a double sickle. 8 foot steel crimpers. The only thing that slows me down is rough ground and getting a clean cut. Usually can run 5 to 6 mph all day if good conditions. In 7 to 10 foot tall cane usually around 3 to 4. Compared to the old 1160 and 1014 i used to run its a dream. Have a neighbor that got a pull type massey rotary and they can move right along in cane compared to me.
 
eatbeef said:
I have Agco swather with steel on steel crimpers, you can turn cane into silage if you are not careful with the settings of the crimper. I wouldnt waste time putting aftermarket ones on, just buy a good swather to begin with. I hired a neighbor with a 3 year old JD moco with some special steel crimpers and it did a darn fine job also, but If they tried to run to fast it didnt work well, 3-4 mph was all they could do in sudan that made 4-5 ton dry.
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I have never had a problem with the steel on steel turning a crop into silage....the flail conditioner that Deere offers, now that one I have a had troubles with, ran it a few days, will not buy one
 
Borrowed the neighbours new john deere with the flail conditioner,did not like it one bit.Took forever for that hay to dry.Personally i would stay away from that set up.I got rubber rollers now on my nh haybine,but the next machine i buy.I will be going back to a macdon and steel rollers.After 15 years of running macdon haybines and switching to a nh,is a mistake i will always regret.Have to use the nh one more year,and then there will be a macdon showing back up in the yard :D .
 
3words said:
Borrowed the neighbours new john deere with the flail conditioner,did not like it one bit.Took forever for that hay to dry.Personally i would stay away from that set up.I got rubber rollers now on my nh haybine,but the next machine i buy.I will be going back to a macdon and steel rollers.After 15 years of running macdon haybines and switching to a nh,is a mistake i will always regret.Have to use the nh one more year,and then there will be a macdon showing back up in the yard :D .
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We have a Macdon 5010 we got new in 99 I think. It's cut many thousands of acres and I can't imagine a better haybine.
I wonder if there was something wrong with the setup on the JD with flails? My 956 cuts wider and dries every bit as fast (or faster) as the Macdon. The flails are also more gentle on the oats, resulting in less loss. Not as easy to pick the oats up though I will admit.
 

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