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Cow Market On Fire!!!

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Just topped our local sale with some black cows weighing just under 1200-a whopping 36 cents a pound and change. They did outsell the big 1600 exotic behemouths though. Not very damned good but better than 15-16 cents we were getting.
 
so you are saying that a 1100 + pound d1 cow sold for more than a 1600 lb d1. I doubt it ..... that means a 10 cent swing.
 
the cow market is real funny right now. You get some of those big exotics that are carrying lots of flesh and they are selling for a few cents less than the leaner types.
 
Well elwapo head on up I'll show you the sales report-I don't like that insinuation either. Typical Albertan-the cattle world doesn't end at number one highway. These cows were sold live as were the exotics I'd of put the blacks as D2's and some of the bigger cows as D1's-not my first rodeo either-just stating what happened.
 
Small thinner cows will be outselling the higher yielding fed cows for a while(by the pound at least). Buyers are starting to gamble that the border will open for OTM mid summer. If that happens a thin cow bought at 36 cents and fed up 300 pounds and sold at 60 cents will make some coin.
 
Jason said:
Small thinner cows will be outselling the higher yielding fed cows for a while(by the pound at least). Buyers are starting to gamble that the border will open for OTM mid summer. If that happens a thin cow bought at 36 cents and fed up 300 pounds and sold at 60 cents will make some coin.
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If the border opens to kill cows that 60 cents will be more like 30.You have'nt seen The prices here lately on fat cattle have you.Right now cows are 45 to 55 cents and fats are79 to 82 in Sioux Falls SD last week...
 
Northern Rancher said:
Well elwapo head on up I'll show you the sales report-I don't like that insinuation either. Typical Albertan-the cattle world doesn't end at number one highway. These cows were sold live as were the exotics I'd of put the blacks as D2's and some of the bigger cows as D1's-not my first rodeo either-just stating what happened.
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ummm... I might be out of line here, but I took Elwapo to mean that the exotics at 1600 lbs could sell for $.27 and still be not be outsold by $.36 @ 1200 lbs.
Sooo.... what did those fine looking exotics bring?
 
Aww those black cows wern't all that thin lol-some people still run 12 weight cows out here in the wasties. They going straight to kill I'm pretty sure-some poor guy might of bought a package of those EXT's to rebreed -good luck lol. Usually a big hard fed exotic tops the deal but they weren't today. Eight weight heifers were kind of getting hit hard if they weren't good enough to breed.
 
little touchy up there in the gap eh nr. Matter of a fact I was in Saskatoon and Yorkton for a couple of bull sales two weeks ago. Thought I would spend some money to support you hard done by rider fans. Talk about depression days.... guys were talking about selling the cows to buy fertilizer.
ps. Why dont you post your sales report to educate us ignorant albertans.
 
The GAP?-isn't that where those oilfield Alberta ranchers send their wives to shop lol. You were still a few hundred miles south of the cows in Sask. unfortunately-nobody sells cows in this country to buy fertilizer lol. Were you at that Gelbvieh sale from those guys at Borden-I had some neighbors at it but the BW's scared them. Those cows averaged 1171 @36.61-they were the Mom's of my steers that closed at 1320 so it can be done with a bit smaller cow. It struck me as odd-that those fleshy exotic cows were a bit back of them.
 
I was in Saskatoon to deliver a bull and caught the Saskatoon Gelbvieh Bull Sale (Epp, Keith, Davidson). Actually the birth weight average was 87 pounds overall.............. perhaps to high for yer black angries. The other sale was the Yorkton all breeds bull sale where the Gelbvieh bulls topped the average for all breeds. The top three selling bulls went to Alberta.
 
These were Gelbvieh users that I converted from polled Hereford lol. They've went a little too far down the Gelbvieh road perhaps-maybe this was a different sale they were at-they said most bulls were over a 100 lbsI know-I know a good cow can have a big calf but this couple is in their 80's and calving 150 cows by them selves.
 
According to the USDA Meat Animal Research Center's (MARC) Germ Plasm Evaluation. Gelbvieh is the only widely used breed that excels in calving ease, milk yield, retail yield, weaning growth, and yearling growth combined. Gelbvieh produce more pounds of weaned calf per cow exposed than any other widely used breed.

Sounds like the answer for an older couple ...or for that matter, a couple of any age.
 
I don't think a straight bred herd of any breed is the answer for a commercial rancher of any age-those Hereford/Guppy F1's werre sweet cows. I actually toured the MARC once it was quite an eye opener-it was a private tour so we got to see alot of cool stuff.
 
I agree with you on crossbreeding 100%. MARC has done great things for the cattle business. MARC identified that the gelbvieh breed had issues with shear force tests a few years ago, which has prompted the breed association to pay for part of genetic tenderness testing and ultrasound analysis. We can cherry pick MARC data all we want but the fact is if it wasn't for independent testing cattlemen would not have this valuable tool to assist them.
 
elwapo said:
I was in Saskatoon to deliver a bull and caught the Saskatoon Gelbvieh Bull Sale (Epp, Keith, Davidson). Actually the birth weight average was 87 pounds overall.............. perhaps to high for yer black angries. The other sale was the Yorkton all breeds bull sale where the Gelbvieh bulls topped the average for all breeds. The top three selling bulls went to Alberta.
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at least those Albertans know where to come to get GOOD CATTLE :!: :wink:
 
FH, it really all depends on what kind of climate and grass you have? The guys out west (particularly in the US) love those Angus and Hereford cows because those are the breeds that can handle the life out there? If it wasn't for a few buyers focused on supplying Angus beef to the US, and the easier calving rates, very few people would have Angus in our area...because we have grass out the ying-yang. A lot of guys love the big exotic cows in our area because the land can support them. Even Herefords get a bad rap in our area. Shorthorns are basically non-existant......but those Charolais/Limo/Simmie cows....guys love them. I think they have been off the meds to long...but that's my opinion. :D :wink:
 
Heck we have lots of grass here too-why not run more smaller cows instead of those big behemouths-how far are you from Lucan,Ontario-I sent a set of baldie heifers out there a few years back lol. Sop not verybody in Ontario is crazy lol.
 
I have used quite a bit of Gelbvieh blood through the years, crossing red Gelbviehs with Red Angus and black ones with black Angus. They definitely add weaning weight. On the downside there are horns, calving problems, and disposition isn't always the best.

For the most trouble-free ranching, my loyalty would be with straight-bred Angus. There are virtually no calving problems. They are as in demand as any breed. There are no horns, and other problems such as bad udders, bad feet, prolapses, and bad eyes are very minimal. With the straight one breed system, it is always easy to keep your own replacements. The heifers not retained for replacements are often in high demand from other cattle producers who utilize cross-breeding in their own programs.

Angus are pretty labor un-intensive. For the ultimate in easy living ranching they can't be beat.
 

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