Credibility 101

[Texan]

What is the matter, Texan, are you upset because you think I "tried" to trick you or that you were tricked by your own mind and became a fool posting it as a credibility issue of me?

As I said, you need to learn to read. I will give you a hint, reading MRJ's posts or SH's posts will not help your comprehension.

You do disservice to your name. C'mon, I know you are better than that.

I hate to even try to recount all of the things you've had to be corrected on, Econ. Let's see...

There was the deal about your Tyson's stock that I helped you with.

There was the deal yesterday when Tam caught your goofup on the BSE thing.

Then there's the deal about your lack of credibility on the article you posted.

The deal about you questioning the quality of the beef we produce here.

The deal about you questioning the ethics that we use to produce beef.

Etc, etc., etc.

You like to just ignore stuff like that, don't you? You're kinda like a little kid that sticks his head under the covers hoping that if he can't see the monsters, the monsters can't see him. That's you, isn't it?

Econ, you go through life hoping that if you don't acknowledge your own stupidity, that maybe nobody else will notice, don't you? Well, guess what? WRONG! :lol:

There was the deal about your Tyson's stock that I helped you with.

Lets see, Texan, the point I brought up about the stock was not incorrect at all, something you seem to realize. MRJ corrects spelling errors, is that what you want to be relegated to as far as your intellectual level?

There was the deal yesterday when Tam caught your goofup on the BSE thing.

There is still some question as to whether bse from cattle can and is transmitted to humans. The problem is the long incubation times of the disease. Because of it, causality is hard to be proven, thought it does not mean it is nonexistent. It just means we haven't been smart enough to prove or disprove it yet. Some people want to stay in that grey area of the argument. They are welcome. I say err on the side of safety and so do the Koreans, the Japanese, and at some times the USDA.

Then there's the deal about your lack of credibility on the article you posted.

My credibility? How about your ability to read? How about your jumping to conclusions that are not supported by the facts. It is you who thought the city was Mexico City, Mexico, not the Philippines, although Philippines was clearly in the article. Stop trying pawn off your reading retention as a mistake on my part. I got a better education than that at ATM, what is your problem?

thing.

Then there's the deal about your lack of credibility on the article you posted.

The deal about you questioning the quality of the beef we produce here.

I haven't questioned the quality of beef we produce here. I said that due to the market concentration and market power, transmission of price signals for quality grades were being subservient to the interests of the packers in pushing the cash price down. If you want to simplify things in the way you do, you will never understand what is happening.

You are beginning to sound a little like SH here, Texan.

The deal about you questioning the ethics that we use to produce beef.

When? Is there a concern for antibiotic use before slaughter?---Read the label. I didn't write it. Is there a concern for downer cows going in the food chain---It isn't my rule, but it is a good one that makes sense. Have there been numerous cases of fraud by cattlemen, and rustlers I have condemned? Yes. What specifically are you getting at here? Antibiotic overuse and disease resistence?


It seems you will take anything and twist it to your own view regardless of the facts. While you are entitled to your own view, it concerns me how much you let your own bias get in the way of critical thought. I am sure they did not teach you this at college.

I know I have a snotty attitude on this board sometimes. Don't take it personally.

Econ, I really don't have a lot of time for this, because most of your post is just the usual condescending gibberish that you use to keep from admitting that you were wrong about something. You're not the only person in the world who refuses to admit when he's wrong, so I'm not about to spend my time trying to change you.

I would like to touch on one thing, though. And only because it is such a glaring...I hate to use the term lie, because maybe you just forgot. How about if we call it an absence of total recollection on your part? That sounds better than accusing you of lying, doesn't it?

I haven't questioned the quality of beef we produce here.

That's simply not true. I don't know how many times that you might have done it (no way I can read all of your posts - LOL), but I have a distinct recollection of you alleging that the beef we raise here is not of the same quality as some imports and that the practices we use in producing cattle are not as ethical as those used in that country.

That was another case where your cheerleaders had the opportunity to step up and call you on it, but they let you get by with it. In fact, it really amazed me. All of your cheerleaders that are so supportive of M-COOL and they let you get by with a statement like that. It was really incredible.

I've really spent a lot more time on you tonight than I had planned on, Econ. You must remember that not all of us get in the same amount of computer time that you do. Fifty-two freakin' posts in one day? Could that be some kind of record? :lol:

 

[Econ101]

I hate to even try to recount all of the things you've had to be corrected on, Econ. Let's see...

There was the deal about your Tyson's stock that I helped you with.

There was the deal yesterday when Tam caught your goofup on the BSE thing.

Then there's the deal about your lack of credibility on the article you posted.

The deal about you questioning the quality of the beef we produce here.

The deal about you questioning the ethics that we use to produce beef.

Etc, etc., etc.

You like to just ignore stuff like that, don't you? You're kinda like a little kid that sticks his head under the covers hoping that if he can't see the monsters, the monsters can't see him. That's you, isn't it?

Econ, you go through life hoping that if you don't acknowledge your own stupidity, that maybe nobody else will notice, don't you? Well, guess what? WRONG! :lol:

There was the deal about your Tyson's stock that I helped you with.

Lets see, Texan, the point I brought up about the stock was not incorrect at all, something you seem to realize. MRJ corrects spelling errors, is that what you want to be relegated to as far as your intellectual level?

There was the deal yesterday when Tam caught your goofup on the BSE thing.

There is still some question as to whether bse from cattle can and is transmitted to humans. The problem is the long incubation times of the disease. Because of it, causality is hard to be proven, thought it does not mean it is nonexistent. It just means we haven't been smart enough to prove or disprove it yet. Some people want to stay in that grey area of the argument. They are welcome. I say err on the side of safety and so do the Koreans, the Japanese, and at some times the USDA.

Then there's the deal about your lack of credibility on the article you posted.

My credibility? How about your ability to read? How about your jumping to conclusions that are not supported by the facts. It is you who thought the city was Mexico City, Mexico, not the Philippines, although Philippines was clearly in the article. Stop trying pawn off your reading retention as a mistake on my part. I got a better education than that at ATM, what is your problem?

thing.

Then there's the deal about your lack of credibility on the article you posted.

The deal about you questioning the quality of the beef we produce here.

I haven't questioned the quality of beef we produce here. I said that due to the market concentration and market power, transmission of price signals for quality grades were being subservient to the interests of the packers in pushing the cash price down. If you want to simplify things in the way you do, you will never understand what is happening.

You are beginning to sound a little like SH here, Texan.

The deal about you questioning the ethics that we use to produce beef.

When? Is there a concern for antibiotic use before slaughter?---Read the label. I didn't write it. Is there a concern for downer cows going in the food chain---It isn't my rule, but it is a good one that makes sense. Have there been numerous cases of fraud by cattlemen, and rustlers I have condemned? Yes. What specifically are you getting at here? Antibiotic overuse and disease resistence?


It seems you will take anything and twist it to your own view regardless of the facts. While you are entitled to your own view, it concerns me how much you let your own bias get in the way of critical thought. I am sure they did not teach you this at college.

I know I have a snotty attitude on this board sometimes. Don't take it personally.

Econ, I really don't have a lot of time for this, because most of your post is just the usual condescending gibberish that you use to keep from admitting that you were wrong about something. You're not the only person in the world who refuses to admit when he's wrong, so I'm not about to spend my time trying to change you.

I would like to touch on one thing, though. And only because it is such a glaring...I hate to use the term lie, because maybe you just forgot. How about if we call it an absence of total recollection on your part? That sounds better than accusing you of lying, doesn't it?

I haven't questioned the quality of beef we produce here.

That's simply not true. I don't know how many times that you might have done it (no way I can read all of your posts - LOL), but I have a distinct recollection of you alleging that the beef we raise here is not of the same quality as some imports and that the practices we use in producing cattle are not as ethical as those used in that country.

That was another case where your cheerleaders had the opportunity to step up and call you on it, but they let you get by with it. In fact, it really amazed me. All of your cheerleaders that are so supportive of M-COOL and they let you get by with a statement like that. It was really incredible.

I've really spent a lot more time on you tonight than I had planned on, Econ. You must remember that not all of us get in the same amount of computer time that you do. Fifty-two freakin' posts in one day? Could that be some kind of record? :lol:

If I posted that, it was just an article for comment. Not my own. (just like the article on rotten beef)

Thanks for the research on me. I always liked a fan club. If you can't go back and do the research, you are not that big of a fan. I would prefer that you just don't make up things though. It shows poor on yourself.

 

[Texan]

If I posted that, it was just an article for comment. Not my own. (just like the article on rotten beef)

Thanks for the research on me. I always liked a fan club. If you can't go back and do the research, you are not that big of a fan. I would prefer that you just don't make up things though. It shows poor on yourself.

It was your opinion, Econ. Not an article. We don't have to make things up about you. With over six thousand posts, there's plenty of good stuff. :lol:

 

[Econ101]

Econ, since you're a little slow sometimes and I'm always having to explain stuff to you, let me give you a little heads-up...

The following post of your's that I'm quoting came from HAY MAKER's "Bull Sheist" thread. Since you wanted to bring up the subject of credibility again, and since I didn't want to keep hijacking his thread, I thought this would be a better place for it. That's why I moved it over here. Is that pretty clear or do I need to go slower for you? :lol:

:lol2: You're the one that doesn't like it when somebody disagrees with you, Econ. You're the ultimate hypocrite and there are volumes of posts to prove it. :lol:

The boards are full of your insulting posts directed at people just because they don't share your goofball views. What grade are you in, anyway? :lol:

Texan, you know as well as I that this started on the political board. I don't have a problem arguing on different levels, with different language and combatting in kind. Do you want me to tie my hands behind my back just so you can win an argument? I didn't negotiate your handicap. Just because I disagreed and wanted to argue a little over there, you followed me here, wrote up a credibility topic, and failed miserably at it due to your lack of reading comprehension and propensity to draw conclusions not stated by other people.

X, or Texan, you are the one who has had more than one handle on these boards for whatever reason, credibility or whatever.

You are really one to talk about these issues.

Econ, the political board has nothing to do with this. This has to do with you. With you, your lack of credibility, and your arrogant, condescending, and frequently insulting posts. The argument that I followed you "here" is absurd and somewhat paranoid, don't you think?

In case you didn't notice, I was posting on Ranchers way before you came along. How do you figure that I followed you? Maybe you think that Bull Session is your personal 'turf' just because you don't have anything better to do than to try to dominate it by posting all day, every day? You're just like the little ghetto gang-banger that doesn't like it when somebody crowds him on his own turf, aren't you? Well, let me tell you, Econ...I am sure scared of you. Can't you tell? LMAO.

I didn't follow you, Econ. Get over it. I bet you spend a lot of time looking over your shoulder, don't you? :lol:

X, or Texan, you are the one who has had more than one handle on these boards for whatever reason, credibility or whatever.

You are really one to talk about these issues.

You're correct about that, Econ. I posted on Political Bull with another username and everybody knows why. They also know that I never used one name to back up the position that I had taken with the other. Never.

Everybody also knows that I am the one that divulged my identity - because I had agreed to do it if somebody else would. I said that I would do it, so I did it. So yeah, you're right...that does give me plenty of right to talk about the issue of credibility.

But since you're concerned about my credibility (when you should be worried about your own), let me give you some tips to look out for. If you ever catch me posting any statements like these, you will know that my credibility should be in question:

Okay, someone has hacked into my identity.

I did not post this post

I did check on the IP address from Macon the post came from and it was from my home.

My wife did it.

I guess you could say I got hacked by my wife.

Well...I guess it's not necessarily my credibility that you should question if I post stuff like that. You might just ask yourself if I'm still the man of the house, or if my wife has taken over. Maybe check to see if I've been banded. :lol:

I'm glad you brought up Political Bull, though. That reminds me of another one of the liberal/socialist positions you take. Your position of supporting the federal Death Tax. Just because you're jealous of those that have more than you. I'll have to admit that your support of that government-sponsored theft took me by surprise. Especially given the fact that you claim to support farmers and ranchers.

The Death Tax is an important issue to most of us here. We're dead set against it in any form, because we want our kids to have what we work for, instead of the government taking it. On the other hand, guys like you think we should cash in our ranches to pay more taxes to keep you and your welfare classes from having to pay your share. In that way you've got a lot in common with Jesse Jackson.

The position you take supporting the Death Tax is reprehensible on a ranchers site where you claim to be interested in helping ranchers. What a crock! Did you not notice that the Death Tax issue is another issue where your cheerleaders leave you standing all alone?

And yeah, I remember that you have in mind an exemption, blah, blah, blah. Just like every other special interest group has an exemption in mind. Let's face it - you're a typical liberal and you like the Death Tax because it will let you get even with people that have more than you.

Econ, let's go ahead and get down to the nut cuttin' about Political Bull since it's still an unresolved issue for you. When we were talking about the Death Tax over there, you just didn't like me comparing you to Jesse Jackson on that issue. Did you, Jesse? :lol:

Texan, I have no problem arguing with you. I don't really care if you don't agree with me on the estate tax.

I do have a problem with your being able to read an article. You proved on the "Credibility 101" thread that you had not read the article. If you had, you would have seen that it was from the Philippines. That was your mistake, not mine. Sugar coat it all you want, but the facts are there. You just don't like them.

That wasn't even the point of me posting that article. The point was the follow up article on the same subject where behind closed doors, the money started talking over the food safety and accountability issues. That is the same thing that has happened in the U.S. It was also about China's lack of food safety and their shipping of prohibited materials.

I don't care what you think of my wife's post, and I really don't care for you analyzing every one of my posts, although it is flattering that you take the time. What is below my belt is also none of your business and I would encourage you to refrain from thinking about it. It will never do you any good.

I don't care if you were on the other political board first and I have no problem disagreeing with you here or on the political board. If I can make it 54 or 55 posts just for your record keeping, I will to oblige you. Heck, I might go out of my way just to disagree with you, seeing how you are in the fan club and like it so much.

 

[Texan]

I do have a problem with your being able to read an article. You proved on the "Credibility 101" thread that you had not read the article. If you had, you would have seen that it was from the Philippines. That was your mistake, not mine. Sugar coat it all you want, but the facts are there. You just don't like them.

I don't know how to break this to you, Einstein. :lol: But... I read the article. That's how I knew it was from the Philippines. And this is the Credibility 101 thread. :lol2:

Go back and read the first post on this thread again. That was mine. Pointing out that your article was from the Philippines. I give up.... :lol:

 

[aplusmnt]

I missed this thread and really did not have time to read it all, but in skimming through it I see that econ gets his way around on all the different boards on Ranchers.net spreading his cancerous ideas.

I am afraid to go check out the Sports and Hunting board, I am sure econ is probably on there trying to convince us that Terrel Owens is just misunderstood and that nice guys like Peyton Manning are what is ruining the NFL.

Or that killing deer with a gun is not a fair thing that we should have to use a spear or bow and arrow like the Indians did.

I wonder how many other Message Boards he is paid to go around spreading his agenda on? :lol:

 

[Econ101]

I missed this thread and really did not have time to read it all, but in skimming through it I see that econ gets his way around on all the different boards on Ranchers.net spreading his cancerous ideas.

I am afraid to go check out the Sports and Hunting board, I am sure econ is probably on there trying to convince us that Terrel Owens is just misunderstood and that nice guys like Peyton Manning are what is ruining the NFL.

Or that killing deer with a gun is not a fair thing that we should have to use a spear or bow and arrow like the Indians did.

I wonder how many other Message Boards he is paid to go around spreading his agenda on? :lol:

Hey, watch out there. There is NOTHING wrong with bow hunting. Gives a little challenge.

 

[Anonymous]

Lying King: "No producer benefits from you misrepresenting every little fact, SH."

Talk is cheap! That's why you respond with more questions instead of providing facts to back your claims.

Lying King: "Do you know every facet of the industry?"

I understand each facet of this industry. Do I know each detail of each facet? No!

Have you proven me wrong on anything I have stated? NOT ONCE!

Lying King: "How about MBM in Australia?"

Never made a claim about MBM in Australia. Someone pointed out that Australia has a voluntary MBM ban and Australia has not had bse that I am aware of so what do you think your point is this time besides the one under your cap?

Lying King: "Is Japan testing their beef for bse?"

Japan has phased out testing of cattle under 20 months of age.

Again, what point did you think you had here?

Lying King: "Did they have 100% testing?"

What they HAD is irrelevant, what's relevant is what they HAVE.

Lying King: "Did they ask for it from countries who had bse?"

Not during recent negotiations in which time they phased out their own 100% testing program.

Your point?

Lying King: "So many answers you have been wrong on, SH."

Prove it Lying King! Talk is cheap!

Take one statement I have made and bring the facts that prove me wrong, JUST ONE! You can't do it! All you have is cheap talk and an empty head and that's probably all you will ever have.

It's refreshing to see that other cattle producers can see you for the phonie that Agman and I saw you for immediately.

Texan, this dork didn't even know what "cwt" meant!


~SH~

 

[Anonymous]

Japan has phased out testing of cattle under 20 months of age.

Wrong-- As of today ALL beef slaughtered in Japan is still tested...

 

[Bill]

Japan has phased out testing of cattle under 20 months of age.

Wrong-- As of today ALL beef slaughtered in Japan is still tested...

Are you sure of that?

I think you had better re-check your sources.

 

[Mike]

Japan has phased out testing of cattle under 20 months of age.

Wrong-- As of today ALL beef slaughtered in Japan is still tested...

Are you sure of that?

I think you had better re-check your sources.

They are still testing them all Bill.

Dec 6, 2006
Korea Times
Byun Hye-jin, a ranking official at the Korean Federation of Medical Groups for Health Rights (KFHR), said the U.S. government¡¯s alleged laxness in oversight of mad cow disease is not news.

``The U.S. agriculture industry is the No. 2 political funding source to the Bush administration,¡¯¡¯ she said.

``I believe the USDA¡¯s blockade for some meat processors¡¯ proposal to extend mad cow disease testing is to block fatal damages to the agriculture industry (from a possibility of more BSE detection).¡¯¡¯

In contrast to the U.S., many European countries and Japan are testing all slaughtered cattle, she said. ``As we continue to say, the U.S. cannot produce boneless beef because they use big electric saws in processing cattle parts.¡¯¡¯

Last Friday, the government said it found three bone fragments in the 3.2 tons of beef from Premium Protein Products, a slaughterhouse in the state of Nebraska, that arrived in Korea on Nov. 23.

The third batch of U.S. beef, totaling 10 tons, has arrived at Incheon International Airport. It is to be quarantined. The 651 boxes of beef were also processed in Nebraska. The state has the greatest number of beef processing rule violations.

 

[Anonymous]

Japan has phased out testing of cattle under 20 months of age.

Wrong-- As of today ALL beef slaughtered in Japan is still tested...

Are you sure of that?

I think you had better re-check your sources.

Unless they've had a major change in the last month--The law no longer requires them to test under 20 month olds--but the consumers of Japan are still demanding their packers test ALL.....And they are testing ALL....

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Johanns Pushing Japan To Drop Cattle Age Limit

Beef, November 14, 2006



U.S. Ag Secretary Mike Johanns may press Japan to drop the age limit on imports of U.S. beef, hardening the call to raise the limit to 30 months from the current 20 months, according to The Japan Times Online. Johanns' remarks underscore what appears to be a strategy of urging Japan to adopt U.S. standards for safeguarding against BSE. U.S. standards require removal of brains, spinals cords, bones and other specified risk materials (SRMs) from cattle aged 30 months or older to safeguard against BSE. Washington has agreed on stricter requirements for beef exports to Japan, limiting shipments to meat from cattle aged up to 20 months and removing risk materials. Under those conditions, Japan agreed in July to lift the ban on imports of U.S. beef. "The 30-month limit is not the international standard," Johanns says, stressing that the issue now is about mitigating risks by removing materials at risk for mad cow disease. USDA called for abolition of the 30-month standard in a recent general meeting of the World Organization for Animal Health which basically agreed on the risk-based approach but maintained the age limit. The risk-based approach is a particular point of controversy between Japan and the U.S. because a failure by a New York exporter to remove risk material in violation of the agreed safeguard requirements led Tokyo to reinstate the import ban in January. Part of a spinal cord was found in veal that arrived in Japan only a month after the original two-year-old import ban was lifted in December. The ban had originally been imposed after the first U.S. case of BSE was confirmed in December 2003. While Japan agreed in late July to resume imports after inspecting U.S. meatpackers, Japanese consumers still have safety concerns and major supermarket chains have yet to put U.S. beef products back on their shelves, says the Japan Times Online article. Another major source of concern is that BSE testing is not required for U.S. beef. USDA is continuing to turn down requests by some U.S. producers to voluntarily conduct blanket testing on cattle for beef exports to Japan to satisfy Japanese consumers. Japan continues to carry out blanket BSE testing on all slaughtered cattle although the government has decided to exempt cattle aged up to 20 months from BSE testing to pave the way for imports of U.S. beef. -- Clint Peck

 

[TimH]

Here is a link to a Japanese ag-info site, from May/05. I believe that since that time, mandatory testing has been dropped, but the prefectures continue to test on a voluntary basis.
Another thing to keep in mind is that there are not a lot of <20 month cattle slaughtered in Japan. Not like in North America, at least. Most of their beef cattle are "long fed". 600+ days.

The link...... www.jaicaf.or.jp/agrinfo/0505/Report_220903.htm

(This article was translated from Japanese, so the grammar is a little wonky)

 

[Big Muddy rancher]

Wrong-- As of today ALL beef slaughtered in Japan is still tested...

Are you sure of that?

I think you had better re-check your sources.

Unless they've had a major change in the last month--The law no longer requires them to test under 20 month olds--but the consumers of Japan are still demanding their packers test ALL.....And they are testing ALL....

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Johanns Pushing Japan To Drop Cattle Age Limit

Beef, November 14, 2006



U.S. Ag Secretary Mike Johanns may press Japan to drop the age limit on imports of U.S. beef, hardening the call to raise the limit to 30 months from the current 20 months, according to The Japan Times Online. Johanns' remarks underscore what appears to be a strategy of urging Japan to adopt U.S. standards for safeguarding against BSE. U.S. standards require removal of brains, spinals cords, bones and other specified risk materials (SRMs) from cattle aged 30 months or older to safeguard against BSE. Washington has agreed on stricter requirements for beef exports to Japan, limiting shipments to meat from cattle aged up to 20 months and removing risk materials. Under those conditions, Japan agreed in July to lift the ban on imports of U.S. beef. "The 30-month limit is not the international standard," Johanns says, stressing that the issue now is about mitigating risks by removing materials at risk for mad cow disease. USDA called for abolition of the 30-month standard in a recent general meeting of the World Organization for Animal Health which basically agreed on the risk-based approach but maintained the age limit. The risk-based approach is a particular point of controversy between Japan and the U.S. because a failure by a New York exporter to remove risk material in violation of the agreed safeguard requirements led Tokyo to reinstate the import ban in January. Part of a spinal cord was found in veal that arrived in Japan only a month after the original two-year-old import ban was lifted in December. The ban had originally been imposed after the first U.S. case of BSE was confirmed in December 2003. While Japan agreed in late July to resume imports after inspecting U.S. meatpackers, Japanese consumers still have safety concerns and major supermarket chains have yet to put U.S. beef products back on their shelves, says the Japan Times Online article. Another major source of concern is that BSE testing is not required for U.S. beef. USDA is continuing to turn down requests by some U.S. producers to voluntarily conduct blanket testing on cattle for beef exports to Japan to satisfy Japanese consumers. Japan continues to carry out blanket BSE testing on all slaughtered cattle although the government has decided to exempt cattle aged up to 20 months from BSE testing to pave the way for imports of U.S. beef. -- Clint Peck

Thank you Clint Peck. Oh you to OT cause you just proved Bill right that Japan no longer requires 100% testing. That's what Bill said.


Now the fact theat they are still testing show that once you start something it could be hard to get out of. Becareful what you wish for.

Also as Tim pointed out it is a very small percentage of beef in Japan that is under 20 months anyway.

 

[Sandhusker]

They are still testing because the people want them to. In spite of this, SH says they don't want testing....

 

[Mike]

MEAT STOCKS IN JAPAN LOW
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JAPAN: While stocks of meat in Japan are low, beef demand is strong and beef slaughter numbers are expected to rise.

Japanese stocks of pork, chicken and beef dropped 7.2 percent in September compared with September 2005, to 409,890 metric tons, according to analysts at Meat and Livestock Australia.

MLA said that although overall Japanese meat consumption in September was subdued, low stock levels have reportedly continued due to tight supply from overseas.

Pork stocks dropped to 187,716 metric tons, a decline of 22 percent on the same period last year and the lowest since March 2005.

While domestic production of pork in September showed little change at 69,903 metric tons, only one percent below the same period last year, imports dropped from 65,692 metric tons to 49,355 metric tons, reflecting rising prices of imported pork from the U.S. and Europe.

Beef stocks fell by 4.5 percent, from 76,129 metric tons (in September 2005) to 72,682 metric tons in September this year. The decrease was due to a 2,728 metric ton fall in stocks of domestic beef, and a 719 metric ton fall in imported beef stocks (including bonded stocks).

MLA said that with the modest volume of imports arriving to the country, Japanese stocks of pork and chicken are expected to drop further. Demand for Australian beef is anticipated to remain strong, as beef supply from the U.S. is still very limited. Further studies from MLA show that Japanese cattle slaughter is forecast to rise slightly in 2007, with Wagyu and Wagyu-cross cattle pushing the trend.

The forecast was developed using the number of registered cattle births (collected by Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry and Fishery) and an average age of Wagyu at slaughter of 31 months, Wagyu-cross at 27 months and dairy cattle at 21 months.

MLA said that encouraged by the recent high prices on carcasses and livestock, slaughter of Wagyu and Wagyu-cross cattle is expected to increase two percent and three percent, respectively, compared with 2006. However, the total increase forecast at this stage is one percent, due to a two percent decrease in dairy steer slaughter.

Wagyu slaughter is expected to keep increasing through to mid-2008, while dairy steer slaughter will likely continue its downward trend, reflecting the producer's shift to more lucrative Wagyu production.

 

[Anonymous]

Big Muddy-- I think Miss Tams chicken head is rubbing off on you-- Apparently you read and/or comprehend like she does when its even right in front of you and your repost it....

This was the original post of SH's that I responded to:

Japan has phased out testing of cattle under 20 months of age.

Nowhere in his- or Bills do I see any mention of law or Japanese government-- just Japan...And Japan has not phased out testing under 20 month olds if they still test ALL :roll:

Boy- Buy em Books- send em to school- and the Canucks eat the covers :wink: :lol:

 

[Mike]

Big Muddy-- I think Miss Tams chicken head is rubbing off on you-- Apparently you read and/or comprehend like she does when its even right in front of you and your repost it....

This was the original post of SH's that I responded to:

Japan has phased out testing of cattle under 20 months of age.

Nowhere in his- or Bills do I see any mention of law or Japanese government-- just Japan...And Japan has not phased out testing under 20 month olds if they still test ALL :roll:

Boy- Buy em Books- send em to school- and the Canucks eat the covers :wink: :lol:

I see why Haymaker calls him "Big Dummy" now. :???: :roll: :lol:

 

[Big Muddy rancher]

Big Muddy-- I think Miss Tams chicken head is rubbing off on you-- Apparently you read and/or comprehend like she does when its even right in front of you and your repost it....

This was the original post of SH's that I responded to:

Japan has phased out testing of cattle under 20 months of age.

Nowhere in his- or Bills do I see any mention of law or Japanese government-- just Japan...And Japan has not phased out testing under 20 month olds if they still test ALL :roll:

Boy- Buy em Books- send em to school- and the Canucks eat the covers :wink: :lol:

I see why Haymaker calls him "Big Dummy" now. :???: :roll: :lol:

Gee watch them divert. What the law say OT? It;s not required unger 21 months?

Say OT how long were you sheriff? 20 years? 30 years? 3 years?

Obviously you did practice law long enough cause you don't seem to right yet.

 

[Mike]

Big Muddy-- I think Miss Tams chicken head is rubbing off on you-- Apparently you read and/or comprehend like she does when its even right in front of you and your repost it....

This was the original post of SH's that I responded to:



Nowhere in his- or Bills do I see any mention of law or Japanese government-- just Japan...And Japan has not phased out testing under 20 month olds if they still test ALL :roll:

Boy- Buy em Books- send em to school- and the Canucks eat the covers :wink: :lol:

I see why Haymaker calls him "Big Dummy" now. :???: :roll: :lol:

Gee watch them divert. What the law say OT? It;s not required unger 21 months?

Say OT how long were you sheriff? 20 years? 30 years? 3 years?

Obviously you did practice law long enough cause you don't seem to right yet.

Whos' diverting? I am the one that posted the rules!

It was changed in Sept, 2005 to allow US beef imports.

If they want to continue testing, that's their business. Not yours nor mine.

But it sure tells you about their mindset doesn't it?

Hint, they don't trust beef and especially ours!