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Criticism plentiful at forum on cattle ID system



BY CHRIS CLAYTON

Omaha World-Herald

October 13, 2005



KANSAS CITY, Mo. - A situation related by Nebraska state veterinarian Dennis Hughes at an agricultural forum Wednesday illustrates the importance of having a national animal identification system, he said.



Hughes received several phone calls last week about cattle in western Nebraska with lesions around their mouths.



"Eighteen of 28 head were showing classic symptoms of foot-and-mouth disease," Hughes said. The illness is highly contagious and can prompt the destruction of numerous herds of cloven-hoofed animals.



Hughes said that shortly after receiving the first reports, a horse was found with similar lesions, allowing officials to instantly rule out the possibility of foot-and-mouth disease.



But had it been verified, Hughes said, he would have immediately needed information about all movements of the cattle.



The U.S. Department of Agriculture sponsored Wednesday's forum, which focused on Agriculture Secretary Mike Johanns' decision to allow private industry to create what will become the linchpin of the nation's animal-health tracking system.



The USDA wants a private consortium to create a system that would allow state and federal officials to track the movement and source of livestock within 48 hours of a disease outbreak.



"I gave a typical example of what we deal with in the real world - and we get these calls on a Friday afternoon," Hughes said. "Quite honestly, I'm a little skeptical of getting traceability in 48 hours. If it happens on a Friday afternoon, I don't want the information next week. I don't want the information Monday morning. I need it now."



Government and industry officials have said a national system is critical for disease control, for protecting against a possible biological terrorist attack and for winning trading partners' trust.



People involved with helping the USDA set up an animal ID system said they were blindsided by Johanns' decision to turn it over to a private group. A tentative plan developed last spring didn't rule out a private plan, but it assumed that the USDA would manage the database, said Richard Bowman, a North Dakota cow-calf producer and R-CALF member.



"There was never anything developed by our working group about privatizing the tracking system," Bowman said.



John Clifford, deputy administrator for the Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service, said USDA officials want to be able to find livestock by tapping into one database. He said he doesn't care where the data are, but the system needs to work for livestock producers. Speed is critical.



"Forty-eight hours could be decimating in foot-and-mouth, definitely," Clifford said. "We need it fast and quick."



Patty Lovera, deputy director of the consumer advocacy group Public Citizen, said consumers deserve a mandatory tracking system operated by the federal government.



The USDA failed to track the nation's two mad cow cases in a timely manner, Lovera said. She also noted that if the USDA requests information, it becomes open to public-records requests, which should not be viewed "as an evil to be avoided at all costs."



People representing several groups simply opposed the idea of turning their information over to a private group. There were suggestions that a consortium might try to sell data for profit.



Donn Teske, president of the Kansas Farmers Union, said it was embarrassing for the USDA to outsource an animal identification program while also trying to close Farm Service Agency offices nationally.



"I don't understand why the USDA could tell me I have to give my data to a private industry," Teske said.



Much of the effort to create a private group came from the National Cattlemen's Beef Association, which proposed a private database earlier this year.



While several groups "shot arrows" at the beef association, it is the only group that has proposed a solution, said Allen Bright, a feedlot operator from Antioch, Neb., and a spokesman for the association on the issue. A database could be active as early as January, Bright said.



"The next step really is to have a meeting with various other groups on this issue," Bright said. "Exactly where it goes after today is undetermined."



Clifford said someone needs to step forward and move the proposal of a private consortium ahead. "We're not here supporting one group over another group or one system over another system."



USDA officials and state veterinarians nationally are demanding unlimited access to the database to track livestock diseases.



David Thain, Nevada state veterinarian, said most veterinarians are not concerned about who manages the data, as long as it is accurate. Producer groups should "leave egos at the door" and come together to develop a program, he said.



"There is an opportunity for us to come together for that ultimate goal of 48-hour traceability," Thain said.



While cattle producers are divided, sheep, poultry and pork groups say they already have tracking programs in place and don't see the need to create a database duplicating their current systems. Pork producers, for instance, have had a mandatory identification system since 1988.



"We see no reason at this time to reinvent the wheel for the swine industry," said Bruning, Neb., pork producer Joy Philippi, president-elect of the National Pork Producers Council.



A spokesman for U.S. Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa, told participants that the congressman has been working on legislation that would create a mandatory national identification system and a national board to implement it. The spokesman said King believes the legislation would address concerns involving confidentiality.
 
"I gave a typical example of what we deal with in the real world - and we get these calls on a Friday afternoon,"NEB.State DVM Hughes said. "Quite honestly, I'm a little skeptical of getting traceability in 48 hours. If it happens on a Friday afternoon, I don't want the information next week. I don't want the information Monday morning. I need it now."

Scoringag is only 3 seconds away from ID.
 
PORKER said:
"I gave a typical example of what we deal with in the real world - and we get these calls on a Friday afternoon,"NEB.State DVM Hughes said. "Quite honestly, I'm a little skeptical of getting traceability in 48 hours. If it happens on a Friday afternoon, I don't want the information next week. I don't want the information Monday morning. I need it now."

Scoringag is only 3 seconds away from ID.

Sounds like a State of Nebraska problem to me. Weren't some Canadian bulls that had been sold in Montana (or was it South Dakota) traced in less than three hours when they needed to be found. It was the current state systems that did it. If Nebraska can't do it, its their problem.
 
ocm said:
PORKER said:
"I gave a typical example of what we deal with in the real world - and we get these calls on a Friday afternoon,"NEB.State DVM Hughes said. "Quite honestly, I'm a little skeptical of getting traceability in 48 hours. If it happens on a Friday afternoon, I don't want the information next week. I don't want the information Monday morning. I need it now."

Scoringag is only 3 seconds away from ID.

Sounds like a State of Nebraska problem to me. Weren't some Canadian bulls that had been sold in Montana (or was it South Dakota) traced in less than three hours when they needed to be found. It was the current state systems that did it. If Nebraska can't do it, its their problem.

Think they were traced by SD, though I don't recall which state they were in, and it probably was not a Friday afternoon when the call came in requesting the information.

THAT is really what it appears Dr. Hughes was pointing out......that government offices typically stop activity at 5PM Friday afternoon and do not open again till Monday morning. Therefore, if government was running the program, how could he get the info in 48 hours if a problem broke on Friday afternoon?

MRJ
 
Here is a cluts IDEA that costs MONEY BUT a RFID Boluses solves ID for $5.00 instead of $2500.00
Animal ID: The "Eyes" Have It In New Mexico NAIS Trials

New Mexico State University researchers are testing the long-term reliability of Optibrand's eye-scanning technology on cattle as part of a national animal identification system. The system works on all ruminants.

"Retinal scans are part of a growing technological trend in cattle identification," said Manny Encinias, livestock specialist at NMSU's Clayton Livestock Research Center.
Each retina has a unique vascular pattern that stays constant throughout the life of an animal. According to Jenny Pollock of Optibrand, a scan is one of the most accurate forms of identification, a more definite identifier than even a fingerprint.
The NMSU tests are part of the U.S. Department of Agriculture's effort to establish a National Animal Identification System capable of tracking and identifying all animals and premises that have had contact with an animal disease of concern within 48 hours.
NMSU scientists tested 35 show animals using a combination of eye-scanning and radio frequency identification ear tags. Pollock noted that the eye scan offered a more secure underpinning to the concept of traceability. "Even if the ear tag is lost, the eye scan can quickly identify the animal and it can be re-tagged."
Encinias used a $2,500 retinal scanner to make the digital record. The cow is secured in a squeeze chute and the scanner's specially molded eye-cup is held to each animal's eye. The entire process takes about 15 seconds per animal.
The scanner senses when the eye is open, makes an image, and downloads the data to a computer database. A special software program, created by Optibrand, stores the image and makes it available for later matching. The device also records the date, time and global positioning satellite coordinates of the location.
"It's as simple as taking a picture," Encinias said. The entire process, though, is a bit more complicated. The company offers a two day training class to teach people how to operate the software and camera.
 
Some readers won't read them and others will,there was a instance in Austrailia where some cattle thieves thought they could beat the system.They got caught with tcpip readers
 
MRJ said:
ocm said:
PORKER said:
"I gave a typical example of what we deal with in the real world - and we get these calls on a Friday afternoon,"NEB.State DVM Hughes said. "Quite honestly, I'm a little skeptical of getting traceability in 48 hours. If it happens on a Friday afternoon, I don't want the information next week. I don't want the information Monday morning. I need it now."

Scoringag is only 3 seconds away from ID.

Sounds like a State of Nebraska problem to me. Weren't some Canadian bulls that had been sold in Montana (or was it South Dakota) traced in less than three hours when they needed to be found. It was the current state systems that did it. If Nebraska can't do it, its their problem.

Think they were traced by SD, though I don't recall which state they were in, and it probably was not a Friday afternoon when the call came in requesting the information.

THAT is really what it appears Dr. Hughes was pointing out......that government offices typically stop activity at 5PM Friday afternoon and do not open again till Monday morning. Therefore, if government was running the program, how could he get the info in 48 hours if a problem broke on Friday afternoon?

MRJ

A lot of USDA people were working on Christmas Day 2003.
 
ocm said:
MRJ said:
ocm said:
Sounds like a State of Nebraska problem to me. Weren't some Canadian bulls that had been sold in Montana (or was it South Dakota) traced in less than three hours when they needed to be found. It was the current state systems that did it. If Nebraska can't do it, its their problem.

Think they were traced by SD, though I don't recall which state they were in, and it probably was not a Friday afternoon when the call came in requesting the information.

THAT is really what it appears Dr. Hughes was pointing out......that government offices typically stop activity at 5PM Friday afternoon and do not open again till Monday morning. Therefore, if government was running the program, how could he get the info in 48 hours if a problem broke on Friday afternoon?

MRJ

A lot of USDA people were working on Christmas Day 2003.

I think we all heard that!

Consider how long it might take in a given state if a call comes in to an empty state veterinarians office after everyone has gone home on Friday night. Under ideal circumstances, what will the time be for finding whom to call, getting employees back to the offices, etc. to get the identification ball rolling, then coping with normal bureaucratic pace and back and forth efforts to determine whose office is responsible for which actions. Do you believe there is no imperfect state system?

MRJ
 
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As you can see from this link, ID is comming weather we want it or not.



http://money.cnn.com/2005/10/24/news/fortune500/mcdonalds.reut/index.htm?cnn=yes


Each box of patties is labeled with a tracking number that can be traced back to the meatpacker that supplied the meat. In addition, more than 10 percent of McDonald's beef is currently traceable back to the individual animal, according to Gonzalez-Mendez.
 
Patties is labeled with a tracking number plus barcode that can be traced back to the meatpacker and food handlers that supplied the meat.ScoringAg does that!!!
 
The idea behind a national identification system, said Oregon State Veterinarian Don Hansen, is to track all the animals exposed to a disease agent back to the time and place of exposure within 48 hours or less. It's part of assuring the disease can be controlled and eradicated in shortest time possible.

Hansen said that group identification, like the traditional hot brand, works for disease traceback as long as all animals stay together in one place or move as a group from place to place. A rancher might move his calves as a single group, for instance, from a ranch to a grazing allotment to a feedlot and then to slaughter.

When cattle are commingled and then separated again, all that changes. While the animals are together they could all be exposed to any disease that may be present in the combined herd. Later, after they've gone their separate ways, that contact could be critical to tracing the original exposure and figuring out what other animals are at risk.

"I'm not quite sure how group ID could work in a commingling situation," Hansen said. "If I needed to get in there to help quell a disease, we may need to have individual animals identified at that point."

So how does commingling occur? The three most common types are shared grazing allotments, feedlots, and events such as fairs, shows and rodeos, said Julie Morrison, coordinator for the Northwest Pilot Project, a test of workable cattle ID using volunteer herds in seven Western states.

Do they have a clue or are they just guessing??
 

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