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Did you buy a dog Soapweed?

Tap

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Or a horse or a bull?
How about these averages?
Taken from the WLJ.


RED BLUFF LIVESTOCK DOG SALE
Jan. 26, Red Bluff, CA
10 Dogs $7,170
Auctioneer: Justin Holmberg
Sale Manager: Ron Anderson
When it's livestock dog sale time in Red Bluff, you had better get there early if you want a seat to witness the action and this year, there was plenty of action as a new record was established for a high selling dog at $23,000. There is just something about watching a good stock dog work that everyone appreciates. All of the dogs that are entered in this sale must meet strict standards and be able to do just about anything except wash the dishes. These dogs are amazing and are so much fun to watch. They are eager to work and to please their handlers. Each dog is worked three different times and scored on strength, the ability to go to the lead cow, and the power to stop or turn the cattle when challenged. They are also scored on obedience. Do they obey commands and try to help the handler? They are scored on control. Do they balance the cattle to the handler, keep the cattle together. and can they think for themselves and not be overly dependent on the handler? There are also several things a dog should not do, such as bark excessively or pass between the cattle and the handler unless asked to. All in all, it is very tough competition and getting through it all with a respectable score is no easy task. The dogs are between 12 and 48 months of age and, of course, must meet health and soundness standards. As in the past years, there was a Water for Life donation dog. This year, the well known Crystal Rose Cowdogs, Sandi Newton, Red Bluff, CA, donated C. R. Leo, a black and white Border Collie, and he sold to Kahn Ranch, Roseburg, OR. TOPS—Patch, 9/17/03, black and white male Border Collie by McCallums Cloud ABC; Bred Venable, Wilton, CA, to Bell A Land and Cattle Co., La Pine, OR, $23,000. Champion: WD Miguel, 12/20/03, red and white male Border Collie by Indian Oak Jesse; Bill and Tomme Jo Dale, Newcastle, CA, to Noble and Finn, Llano, TX, $8,500. C. R. Leo, 2/27/04, black and white male Border Collie by Imp Cap ABC; Crystal Rose Cowdogs, Red Bluff, CA, to Kahn Ranch, Roseburg, OR, $8,200. Petey, 5/18/04, black and white male Border Collie by Cash ABC; Rodney Hopwood, Kimberley, ID, to Noble and Finn, $6,000. Urricelquis Poco, 7/27/03, black and tan female Kelpie by Urricelquis Bullet; Roger Urricelquis, McArthur, CA, to Tony Pierce, San Jose, CA, $6,000. — JERRY YORK

RED BLUFF REPLACEMENT FEMALE SALE
Jan. 25, Red Bluff, CA
Auctioneer: Max Olvera
Sale Manager: Ron Anderson
This sale is produced by the Red Bluff Bull Sale committee and Shasta Livestock Auction Market and Western Video Market. It is an in-house video sale and kicks off the four sales held during the Red Bluff week. There were some excellent quality females consigned to this sale and attendance was strong. The sale is held in the Don Smith Pavilion and as in the past, the Water for Life Bull was sold first with the proceeds going to the Water For Life program that has made such an impact on legislation that affects water and water rights for the agricultural community. This year's Water For Life bull was donated by Bill Bennett, BB Cattle Co., Connell, WA. Bennett has been a consignor to the bull sale for many years. The bull, BB Connection 5029, a 2/3/05 son of SAF Connection, sold for $5,000 to a group consisting of Western Stockman's Market, Five Star Land and Livestock, Tehama Angus Ranch, Camp Cooley Ranch, and Oak Ridge Angus. The group donated the bull back to be resold and on the next go round, he brought $3,350 and sold to Don Wyatt. — JERRY YORK

RED BLUFF GELDING SALE
Jan. 26, Red Bluff, CA
115 head $6,443
Auctioneers: Rick Machado, Justin Holmberg and Trent Stewart
Sale Manager: Ron Anderson
Quality is the name of the game at the Red Bluff Gelding sale and that has been the standard since the sale was started 45 years ago. Good ranch geldings are hard to find and harder to buy when you do find one, and that is a strong consideration for anyone looking for a good ranch horse when they come to Red Bluff. This sale has gained national recognition over the years as a consistent and reliable source of high quality geldings that will work in a wide variety of conditions in the arena or in the open. As this sale has progressed, the consignors have always brought their best to Red Bluff knowing that their horse will get maximum exposure to serious buyers. They also know that in order to get their horse into the sale, they have to undergo some very intensive scrutiny. Each horse and mule that is entered in the Red Bluff sale first has to pass a sifting process conducted by some of the most knowledgeable horsemen in the West. Getting past that, they will compete in halter, roping, cutting, hackamore/snaffle bit and stock horse competition under the watchful eyes of the judges. At any of these stages, a horse can be sifted from the sale, and some are. While all of this is happening, there is always a very large crowd of spectators observing and doing their own judging. The evening when the Champion Conformation Gelding is selected, the Pauline Davis Pavilion is absolutely filled with people and excitement runs high. After all of the geldings have been gone over with a fine tooth comb, the sale order is made using a drawn by lot ensuring that there will be good horses all through the sale order. As always, the sellout crowd stays to the end and the excitement and enthusiasm that carries through them is impressive. Anyone that loves horses will have an enjoyable time at this sale and watching the consignors show their horses in the sale ring is always fun. It's showmanship, salesmanship and glamour, and the crowd loves it. The Red Bluff Gelding sale is unique from all aspects and anyone that comes to Red Bluff and misses the gelding sale has missed an integral part of the Red Bluff atmosphere. This year in tribute to the late Craig Owens, who was for many years the "wheelhorse" of this great event, the Ideal Ranch Horse Award was presented in his name and will be in the future. TOPS—Tuf N Cool, 5/10/00, chestnut gelding by Buckaroo Bueno Chex; Tracie Thornburgh and Billy Ward, Chiloquin, OR, to Noble and Finn Equine and Cattle Co., Llano, TX, $29,000. Niciflynn, 6/6/99, sorrel gelding by Flynns Grayson of Adoc; Jill Cendedella, Yuba City, CA, to Hutchings Cattle Co., Fallon, NV, $20,000. Champion Conformation: Dry Cody Command, 5/10/99, by Dry Double; Cowhorses, Inc., Parma, ID, to Sam Cannell, Anderson, CA, $17,000. Summers Salty Dog, 4/10/97, sorrel gelding by De Luxe Doc; UI Ranches, Red Bluff, CA, to Heidi Guertin, Lincoln, CA, $16,700. Peppy Sol Quixote, 4/30/01, gray gelding by Peppys Diamond Goer; Jeremy and Bettina Crume, Grants Pass, OR, to Sheena Rombauer, St. Helena, CA, $15,800. My Bonnets on Fire, 6/4/00, sorrel gelding by Red Bandana Two; Jeff Peck, Caldwell, ID, to Mervin Munsch, Pleasanton, CA, $14,000. Reserve Champion Snaffle Bit: Freckled Twist, 4/30/03, buckskin gelding by Freckles Fancy Twist; Robert Ingersoll, Reno, NV, to Paul Plouziez, Fallon, NV, $13,000. Derby Threes King, 5/25/02, bay gelding by Par Threes King; Paul and Sharon Auman, Onalaska, WA, to Jay Ayres, Wood Lake, CA, $13,000. Champion Stock Horse: Instant Messenger, 3/9/02, bay gelding by SR Instant Choice; Richard Wright, Cottonwood, CA, to Dave Bray, Powell Butte, OR, $12,100. Reserve Champion Stock Horse: Hesa Little Fair, 5/20/02, black gelding by Little Fair Black; Elizabeth Para, Othello, WA, to Hutchings Cattle Co., Fallon, NV, $11,500. Top Mule: Jackson, 4/1/02, black John mule; Dean Price, Idaho Falls, ID, to Gary Williams, Hamilton, MT, $4,700. — JERRY YORK AND PETE CROW
 
Looks like a whale of a sale. High quality stock is always worth a premium.

Looking at life through my non-rose-colored dirty glasses though, there are just certain things in life that a person shouldn't have to pay for. One of these is a dog. Someone always has a pup to give away, for free. :wink: :shock: :shock: :-)
 
Nicky
The ones that 'don't pan out' NEVER run away


Nicky you couldn't be more right I have a border collie that chases the 4whlr and nothing else. I have tried everything to reform her and she won't run away and I don't have the heart to shoot the mutt..... :mad: Maybe I should give her away and look for a free one sure didn't pay to buy one...... :roll:
 
Carry a bottle of water with you....just plain water...in a bottle that has enough pressure to really give her a good squirt. Everytime you get on the 4 wheeler and she starts, spray her right in the face.

Have a Blue Heeler that HATES anything that goes around or repeats motion. I broke her from grabbing at the tires on the quad this way. Also broke a Aussie from grabbing @ golf cart wheels the same way. It took about a week for it to stop. Now they just have to see the bottle and they break right off from acting stupid.

Worked for me is all I can say! Water's cheap....give it a try!
 
Mort said:
Remember, the people who give pups away know exactly what those dogs are worth.

It just depends on what you want the dog for. Being a slow learner, it took me quite a few years to figure it out. I finally realized that the life of a Sandhills cowboy is much easier without dogs being around the cattle. There are great cowdogs that do a wonderful job working with cattle. For every one of them, I can show you another 99 "wanna-be" cowdogs that only make life more difficult for the cowperson that they are supposedly helping.

In brush country, I suppose even a mediocre cowdog is helpful. In the Sandhills, or in flat country, I would challenge someone with a mediocre cowdog to try it both ways. Try working cattle with the dog, and then the next day just leave the dog home and work cattle again. I think most folks would be amazed at how much easier it is with no dog.

Don't get me wrong, I like a good dog as a companion. It's nice if they bark when (and only when) someone drives into the yard, or a coyote is out on the meadow in front of the house.

Back to my original thought process, if a companion dog is what you need, a free one is just as good as a high dollar one. :wink: :-)

Don't take me too seriously, but I do have my reasons. I am thankful that my whole crew thinks the same as I do on the subject. Working cattle is so much more fun if there isn't some dopey dog always in the wrong place at the wrong time. :-)
 
Jinglebob said:
Soapweed said:
Working cattle is so much more fun if there isn't some dopey dog always in the wrong place at the wrong time. :-)

Okay, now what about the dopey workers who are always in the wrong place at the wrong time? :roll:

kolanuraven said:
Bingo!! Excellent question!

If you've got 'em, don't flaunt 'em. :wink: :-) If you do hire that kind, put them to fencing at the far end of the place.
 
Jinglebob said:
Soapweed said:
If you've got 'em, don't flaunt 'em. :wink: :-) If you do hire that kind, put them to fencing at the far end of the place.

Who said anything about hiring them? What about the neighbors who are poor help?

Buy a couple of our "calf traps" so you and a small crew of hand-picked people can accomplish the task. :wink: This is one of the main reasons we are now doing it this way.

It reminds me of one older guy who always insisted on being right where the main action was, sorting the cows from the calves at branding. Another fellow was talking about him one time. He stated, "So-and-so is just like a bad dog; he can only see one cow at a time." :-)

I rest my case on poor dogs and poor cowhands.
 
I had a dog save me from a couple pissed off mommas and she wasn't even trained at the time so I am kind of partial to a good cow dog... It is tough, on a day to day basis a good dog is like a hired hand, maybe better because they don't get sick, they don't break machinery and they don't ask for a paycheck every Friday... Also, they don't go out on a bender on Friday night and get tossed into the local grey bar motel like some of the cattle hands around here specialize in.. Now these are just the bad hands, unfortunelty in our area that is basically what you find as people just don't want to work with cattle or if they do they are scared of them or something.. A good hand is worth every penny and than some that you give him. A good dog is worth every penny you spent for him too. It is to the pont with hands you are better off finding a city kid who wants to work livestock and train him up on it.. Strange but true in this area..


That being said, I wouldn't have a dog around while working cattle the way we work cattle. For bringing them in from the field, perfect. To search the tall grass/weeds and swamp ground for calves that got left behind in a pasture switch, yes. But when we are working, slow and steady wins the race there and a dog will usually agitate the cattle just a bit too much when they are penned in a 2500 square foot holding lot...
 
Soapweed said:
Jinglebob said:
Soapweed said:
Working cattle is so much more fun if there isn't some dopey dog always in the wrong place at the wrong time. :-)

Okay, now what about the dopey workers who are always in the wrong place at the wrong time? :roll:

kolanuraven said:
Bingo!! Excellent question!

If you've got 'em, don't flaunt 'em. :wink: :-) If you do hire that kind, put them to fencing at the far end of the place.

Then the "far end of the place"will be the first place to check when the cows get out! :D :D :D
 
Soapweed said:
Jinglebob said:
Soapweed said:
If you've got 'em, don't flaunt 'em. :wink: :-) If you do hire that kind, put them to fencing at the far end of the place.

Who said anything about hiring them? What about the neighbors who are poor help?

Buy a couple of our "calf traps" so you and a small crew of hand-picked people can accomplish the task. :wink: This is one of the main reasons we are now doing it this way.

Well Soap, that's kind'a what we are doing, except we are using "cowboy" calf traps, otherwise known as "ropes". :lol:

Problem comes in when I go to help neighbors or get hired to help a feller brand. I've pretty much weeded out the ones that don't have good help or allow some gunsel to run things. :wink:

But a feller still has to help his neighbors, in this country, If we didn't have good neighbors, none of us would have anything.

By the way, I classify good help as anyone better than me, cuz I'm pretty sorry help. They just let me come so I can growl at and tease the kids, anymore. :wink:
 

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