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Sierra Club to hold bi-monthly program
By Journal staff
RAPID CITY — The Black Hills Group of the Sierra Club will hold its bi-monthly program in the Community Room of the City/School Administration Center, 300 Sixth St., at 7:30 p.m. Thursday, May 17.


The program will be a discussion about the relationships between prairie dogs, livestock and wildlife. Pizza and drinks will be provided. The program is open to members and friends of the Sierra Club.
 
i'd love to come
and show them pic's of a big steer and a horse that both broke a leg in a chase thru a prarie dog town fall before last
but with the price of fuel i geuss i better stay home
until later
jerry
 
Jerry H said:
i'd love to come
and show them pic's of a big steer and a horse that both broke a leg in a chase thru a prarie dog town fall before last
but with the price of fuel i geuss i better stay home
until later
jerry
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Could you email the photo's to me Jerry? I'd take them along.
 
Jerry H said:
jb
i don't have them on the computer
but i'll see what i can do
until later
jerry
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if you figure somethingm out, pm me.

And thanks, I think those pictures would be very imformative to those kind folk.

I plan to go, myself and would love to have some friends from the boards here along. :)

Thanks Fulton, for the info. :)
 
Went to the meeting and learned that if you are at 20% or less population of praire dogs, it's poor econimics to poision them. Course, they was only getting 90% killed and letting them re-populate, so they had to go back and do it all over again every three years.

The study showed that cows and praire dogs are very compatible and more feed is actually grown on the ground that has both, versus just cows or just prairedogs.

Very interesting, but I had a few problems with some of the data. :roll:

Sadly, we didn't even get to fight or nuthin'! Booorrrriiiinnnngggg! :lol:

I can't wait to tell all my neighbors what a good deal it is to have some prairedogs. :D

Might just have to go find some and restock. :lol: :lol:
 
jb
sorry i couldn't get you those pic's
it rained and i couldn't get to town to get them on a disc
i'm sorry but i don't aggree with them on having pd's and cattle makes for more feed for both
we have lots of those little terrorist here and they are a pain
posion has not even slowed them down or having folks out to shoot them
theirs on guy that gases them and blows up the mound and they say that works real well
but our neighbor has about 5 sections of them and he charges town folk to come out and shoot them so until his die out i think we are stuck with them
until later
jerry
 
Jerry H said:
jb
sorry i couldn't get you those pic's
it rained and i couldn't get to town to get them on a disc
i'm sorry but i don't aggree with them on having pd's and cattle makes for more feed for both
we have lots of those little terrorist here and they are a pain
posion has not even slowed them down or having folks out to shoot them
theirs on guy that gases them and blows up the mound and they say that works real well
but our neighbor has about 5 sections of them and he charges town folk to come out and shoot them so until his die out i think we are stuck with them
until later
jerry
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Here, I think if your neighbor has them and they are moving in, you can get the county to poison them and charge the neighbor.

Thats my whole beef with these types of people, such as the wolf reintroduction people.

If they wanted wolves in Yellowstone, fine, but keep them off surrounding ground. It's a private property issue. If you run your animals on my ground without my permission, then you should be liable for them. Simple as that.

If a person wants prarie dogs on their property, fine, but keep them off my property. If you can't you shouldn't be allowed to have them.

Seems pretty simple to me.

I don't always agree or want to run cattle as many others do, but I don't really care what or how they do their jobs, as long as they aren't forcing me to do as they do. I sure ain't forcing anyone to go broke in the cattle business, as I am, so I don't think they should force me to make money and get rich like they are. :wink:

Seems to me we should all feel this way, but hey, maybe I'm just too radical. :lol: :lol:
 
I'm glad you went to the meeting JB. These groups need some grounding and they need to know that ranchers are conservationists. They don't realize that PD's don't have the predators that they used to and that alot of the private ground they are on needs to make a living for a family.
 
When one of the neighbor farmers was commenting to his next door neighbor rancher that he had a lot of gophers coming into his crops from the rancher's field, the rancher very dryly suggested that the farmer shouldn't have left the gate open when he went through his pasture to the farm field........
 
If them people like them so much, I have some, and they are FREE! Send em' down, and the can have them on their property, instead of just telling me what is good for my property.
 
This is what I posted about the meeting on my blog.

Tyler (oldest son) and I went to Rapid last night to a Sierra Club meeting. There was a presentation on prairedogs, wildlife and cows.

Pretty interesting, but I didn't quite believe all the conclusions. They tested a very small area, in contrast to all of the land that prairedogs are on. They are mainly wanting prariedogs, so thay can keep blackfooted ferrets. Thats cool, but they tend to let their prairedog population run over, off from state and federal ground, to private ground and then it becomes a private property issue.

One of the points was, that there is more total forage on ground that has both prairedogs and cows, than where there is only one or the other. Sounds logical.

One point I disagree'd with was when they cited a case where they cut back cow numbers by fifty percent and they claimed that within 3 years calves went from 300 pound weaning weights to 600 pound weaning weights. Sure might have happened, but it wasn't just from increased forage. Those ranchers weren't too dumb. When they cut their cow numbers they just started running larger cattle which weaned off heaver calves. Still pretty much the same forage utilized, but with fewer, larger cows.

I don't care who you are, you don't go from weaning off 300 pound calves to 600 pound calves, with no change in your breed type and/or size of cattle.

It was a pretty interesting presentation. I just wish that the tree hugger groups would just come out in the open and state what they really want. No one on the land making a living, so that they and their friends can walk around and enjoy nature and not have to deal with cow poop on their shoes. LOL

Only problem is they don't want anyone to take any of their land to do so. It's kind of a "whats good for me isn't necessarily good for you", type of deal.

Selfidh little rascals.

I wonder how they would feel if someone confiscated their house or place of business, with little or no pay, for the "good of the majority"?

I kind'a think they wouldn't like it.

Ain't it funny, they want to move all the ranchers off the land to save it, yet they are the same people who want to build all their houses in prime real estate that is the most beificial to wildlife?

I think it's time some of them learned that if it wasn't for the prcatices most ranchers have done with tree plantings and water developement, there wouldn't be nearly as much wildlife now.

Oh and remember, it was Scotty Phillips, a rancher, who saved the buffalo from extinction.
 

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